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Ask HN: Why aren't Americans rising up against tipping?

16•bjourne•48m ago
I've read lots of articles about how Americans hate their tipping culture. But tipping is optional so why don't they just stop? If you don't tip you both help society improve and you save money. Win-win.

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minimaxir•24m ago
In the US, restaurants are comparatively cheaper than say Europe who then pay their employees more.

Americans would riot if restaurants raised the prices to offset the loss of tipping.

stingraycharles•10m ago
That’s not my experience at all, as a European who frequently travels to the US for work. If anything, I’d say that restaurants in the US are slightly more expensive without tips, definitely more expensive with.
garciasn•5m ago
Guess it depends on where you are in Europe and where you are in the US.

My parents live 1000 miles from me and a meal out is significantly less expensive than it is here.

Spooky23•10m ago
LOL where?

My experience is that European restaurants are cheaper and better. Especially in 2026 with the Trump inflation hellscape. Everything from McDonalds to local high end restaurants.

Certain commodities are even more shocking. You’ll get the best loaf of bread that you ever had. in France, Spain, or Italy for two euro. In most American cities, unless there happens to be a functional local bakery, you’re looking at a seven dollar defrosted loaf of bread at a supermarket that tastes like cardboard.

alex_young•4m ago
Having lived in an expensive European country and in several different US states, that wasn’t my experience.

Even when factoring in things like tipping and taxes being included in the prices, I would say In aggregate US restaurants are simply more expensive.

jswelker•11m ago
Mainly because it makes you look like a tremendous douchebag and does immediate harm to real employees for an intangible cause that looks like grandstanding. I say this as a person who hates tipping but mechanically leaves 20%.
newCrotchSmell•5m ago
> I say this as a person who hates tipping but mechanically leaves 20%

Thereby perpetuating cheap skate owners can continue to get away with labor exploitation and wage theft

You know the olds that put this social way in our heads are dead or too old to force our hand anymore

No need to continue to kowtow like an abused spouse; grandpas hand can barely lift a glass of water

flatline•4m ago
I have no problem tipping for service. Tipping when I pay in advance and get no service beyond being handed my food — what exactly am I tipping for? I don’t think people are opposed to tipping in general, it’s just been applied to everything.

One time I was forced to pay a tip for self checkout at the Austin airport. I was in a rush for my flight, it prompted, and I could not find any way to opt out.

delichon•9m ago
Because Maria works so damn hard cleaning those hotel rooms, and if I take a stand on principle and don't leave her a tip when I check out, the only ones who will suffer for it are her and her kids. Should I instead write her a note about how we're helping society improve?
senorcrab•6m ago
I don't think thats the problem. Moreso something like this that was intended to help people that needed it is being taken advantage of. Every cafe with $6 espressos will ask you for a tip nowadays. What's worse is that a lot of places default to adding a 15% tip when these screens show! And there is no way of knowing where these tips are going unless you pay cash.
chasd00•4m ago
> Because Maria..

Don’t be racist

1123581321•8m ago
It’s hard to stop because it means denying a dollar or two to a human in front of you who wants it and tried to earn it during your transaction. It’s not immoral, just less than ideal, so it’s endured.
Dumblydorr•8m ago
It’s a Lose for the employees of the current system. You’re cheekily superiorly saving a few bucks on a cause that isn’t going to be helped by snubbing a servicing worker.

There are a few tip free restaurants around, it’s sort of rare. Tipping at basically every random shop is out of control nowadays tho.

drsalt•7m ago
it doesn't look good
shadowgovt•6m ago
[delayed]
isatty•6m ago
I just hate corner stores and take out places expecting tips. I flat out refuse to do that. Please tip only for real service and sit down restaurants, thank you.
ex-aws-dude•5m ago
Because it’s only marginally more expensive
TZubiri•4m ago
It's a tradition, it's how the system works, why would you change that.

That said, I feel like sometimes this is pushed with those tablets with tipping options that present 20% 30% and 35%. Especially in situations where you self serve by going up to the clerk, as a non american it feels like I'm being scammed by a tourist trap, I might press 30% out of feeling that it's customary, but then an American might know the actual rules and either tip 15%, or not tip at all since it isn't customary to tip for self service.

ButlerianJihad•3m ago
Tips in America are not gratuities. Tips in America are wages. If you do not understand or accept that tips are wages, then you will not cooperate with tipping culture here.

Our federal administration recently decreed no tax on overtime, no tax on tips. This is a judicious move; although it unfortunately enshrines tipping even more firmly, it gives relief to the rank-and-file worker.

Generally, employees raking in cash tips always faced a tax-time dilemma: record and report all my tips from my job, and be taxed on them? Or just let it all slide under the table. Surely, nearly everyone does it. So, "no tax on tips" simply encourages you to report them without being docked for it.

Tipping culture is business-friendly. It gives business the opportunity to hire more workers for more hours, and simply offload the wages onto the customers. End-stage capitalism's finest hour.

As I mentioned earlier, tips in advance for services like food delivery? Those are bribes, not tips. They're also wages, but they're also bribes. It's fairly disgusting. I hate tipping. But I hate stiffing workers, and I personally enjoy a reputation as someone who cares about tipping people for services provided.

RiverCrochet•3m ago
When restaurant food was cheap, tipping wasn't a big deal, especially before the trend of paying for your food first at the counter. A $10 meal and a $2 tip for a waiter/waitress that took care of you - not really bad.

Today, that same meal is $35 - $40, so not only does the tip have to increase, but also people are eating out less. Lately it seems restaurants are closing left and right. Restuarant tipping is probably really on the decline.

What's sort of come up in its place over the past few decades is the payment system asking you for a tip before you even get your food. I think there is some sort of a backlash against that, as well as tipping in non-food places. I'm seeing more and more Instagram posts about it.

jasonlotito•2m ago
> I've read lots of articles about how Americans hate their tipping culture.

You misunderstand.

There is tipping in restaurants, and then tipping in other places where it's much more traditional to not tip.

While some people don't like restaurant tipping, it's generally the other type of tipping the ruffles feathers. But in those cases, you don't have to tip.

> But tipping is optional

Again, you don't understand. No, tipping is not always optional. It's known and part of the bill in certain circumstances and this is known ahead of time.

> If you don't tip you both help society improve

I don't know, having been to European and American restaurants, I find the American restaurants to be far better at service. Couple that with free refills and other amenities (like again... actually good service), I wouldn't see it as better.

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