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Why hasn't SpaceX, worth $2T, paid this Bay Area chef the $70K it owes him?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/restaurants/article/spacex-stateline-napa-late-payment-22463945.php
29•hn_acker•54m ago

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hn_acker•54m ago
The original title is:

> SpaceX is worth $2 trillion. So why hasn’t it paid this Bay Area chef the $70,000 it owes him?

epolanski•44m ago
Is there anything "original" anymore when it comes to thumbnails or titles?

They are tweaked all time to maximize views.

addaon•46m ago
(Paywalled.)
mgoetzke•44m ago
this headline is so click-baity i am not sure the entire article is actually serious already
bko•43m ago
Why is some random vendor dispute newsworthy?

I miss real journalism. I don't know what the hell this is

nvdk•39m ago
An invoice being just a few days over it's due date is indeed not really serious. I don't think it's a smart move on the restaurant either, if they had any intention on continuing the contract this just about kills it.
hluska•36m ago
It’s the San Francisco Chronicle’s Restaurant section.
nomel•13m ago
I saw it on the hacker news front page.
hn_acker•6m ago
> Desperate, Bell called SpaceX’s senior accountant on Sept. 17 and left a voicemail. “I said, ‘Something seems a little weird, and I don’t know if I should be getting a lawyer,’” he said.

> Bell said he received two responses within the hour. The first was a call from the accountant, who told him his payment had been initiated and should land in his bank account in the next few days. Bell said that as of Oct. 9 it had not arrived.

> On Friday, shortly after the Chronicle reached out to SpaceX for the second time, an accountant called Bell and told him payment was on its way. Bell said this is the third time the company has told him payment has been initiated.

This is just how "random" vendor "disputes" go? I disagree.

timpera•42m ago
> An accountant for SpaceX called Bell on Friday to inform him a payment was being processed — a call that came “shortly after” the Chronicle reached out to the company a second time for comment. Bell, however, told the Chronicle that this was the third time he had been told his payment had been initiated.

From non-paywalled article: https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2678070490/

14989aiuh•40m ago
It is worth $2T on paper because they issued an artificially small float. They have a small fraction of Ford's revenue and tons of risky debt:

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/spacex-get...

This may be the first domino in a systemic AI loan and debt crisis.

ben_w•19m ago
I dunno about first domino, but I do suspect new laws will get written to prevent future businesses performing a "Musk scheme".
righthand•39m ago
> Bell did not sign a written contract with SpaceX, but said he verbally agreed to the company’s terms of payment within 30 days.

Wrong move. Though I’m sure he’d win in court regardless, it is now a much longer drawn out process.

ciconia•38m ago
> “It just kind of hit me,” Bell said. “We’re the blue-collar guys cooking this food, hustling to make this work for these young kids making like six figures, and this entity that has a trillion dollars, can’t pay us?”

Welcome to tech bro utopia, where humanity in its entirety must grovel and worship and lick the boots of those who in their magnanimity allow us merit-less wretches to work for them for pennies, or, as in this case, for free. Oh what a wonderful future these guys have in store for us!

Kevin_Flynn•38m ago
I'm going to pretend to take the headline seriously, without reading it.

1. Because real companies have accounts payable procedures, where transactions are examined and processed according to procedure, in varying degrees of time, depending on the circumstance.

2. Profitable companies, or those that hope to be so, make sure there is always a backlog of work available, which creates some amount of delay in all payments.

3. Elon whispered in someones ear and said "the food sucks, take care of it." This is pure speculation on my part, but it makes for a good scene in a villian movie.

hn_acker•14m ago
> 1. Because real companies have accounts payable procedures, where transactions are examined and processed according to procedure, in varying degrees of time, depending on the circumstance.

> 2. Profitable companies, or those that hope to be so, make sure there is always a backlog of work available, which creates some amount of delay in all payments.

Your first two points are addressed by:

> Desperate, Bell called SpaceX’s senior accountant on Sept. 17 and left a voicemail. “I said, ‘Something seems a little weird, and I don’t know if I should be getting a lawyer,’” he said.

> Bell said he received two responses within the hour. The first was a call from the accountant, who told him his payment had been initiated and should land in his bank account in the next few days. Bell said that as of Oct. 9 it had not arrived.

> On Friday, shortly after the Chronicle reached out to SpaceX for the second time, an accountant called Bell and told him payment was on its way. Bell said this is the third time the company has told him payment has been initiated.

Your third point can go unaddressed.

qwe10298•33m ago
The Musk brigades have flagged this evidence of financial troubles from the front page.
silverFork•20m ago
What was interesting was that had promised to pay him 3 times already. If _M_sk had paid for it himself.. it will be like $5 to him or few seconds to accumulate $60k from interest alone.
toomuchtodo•2m ago
It’s about power and control, as it always is in this context. It would take but a moment to arrange a wire transfer, it is an active choice not to make the vendor whole.
hn_acker•11m ago
Just because a headline is chosen to make you feel semething doesn't mean it's clickbait. The headline is the editor's/author's restatement of the restaurant owner's own questions which were quoted in the article body.
deadstate•11m ago
Because spacex is run by a mean and petty sociopath cunt.

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