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The recently proposed o(n log n) integer multiplication algorithm [pdf]

https://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~davidharvey/research/subnlogn.pdf
27•craigcitro•57m ago

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flebron•37m ago
Note in this case the title says "O(n log n)", but the important part is this is "o(n log n)", not just "O(n log n)'. The former is a strict subset of the latter. We already knew how to multiply two n-bit integers in O(n log n) time, via the FFT.
onionisafruit•32m ago
For those of us uninformed, what’s the difference between O and o?
theokrueger•28m ago
Big O basically drops constants

O(2n+1) = O(2n) = O(n)

o(2n+1) > o(2n) > o(n)

Both define upper boundary, but big O can read like "the function is generally proportional to ___" and little o can read like "the function is never more than _____"

bobmarleybiceps•14m ago
that's not the convention I know... (from CLRS algorithms book).

Big O is sort of like <=. little o is sort of like <.

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1008328.1008329

npinsker•7m ago
Yes, GP is slightly off, but the idea of <= and < is accurate.

O(n) is: "there exists a K such that, for sufficiently large n, K*n is always larger".

o(n) is: "for every K, for sufficiently large n, K*n is always larger". (So o(2n+1) and o(2n) and o(n) are the same thing.)

boothby•28m ago
If f is O(g) and o(h) then

  Lim f/g -> C a constant
And

  Lim f/h -> 0
appplication•24m ago
Lmao! If someone is asking the difference between big and little o notation this is absolutely not the right way to clarify it.

If you were joking then maybe you got me

boothby•5m ago
I do hope you can find and reattach your ass; that does sound painful.
Ygg2•25m ago
Both are upper bounds. But small o is strictly smaller than upper bound. Big O is not greater than upper bound.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1364444/difference-betwe...

ruined•21m ago
f(n) = O(g(n)) means as n increases, f(n)/g(n) must not grow beyond a constant

f(n) = o(g(n)) means as n increases, f(n)/g(n) must shrink

bobmarleybiceps•10m ago
Knuth originally defining them https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1008328.1008329
craigcitro•29m ago
ty, fixed. (ahh, copy paste.)
ComplexSystems•15m ago
Roughly speaking, O(n log n) means "grows no faster than k(n log n) for some k", whereas o(n log n) means grows strictly more slowly* than k(n log n) for all* choices of k.
jdb1729•23m ago
> The new result does not directly imply new complexity bounds for polynomial multiplication over a fixed finite field, say multiplication in F2[x]. The state of the art for this problem is an algorithm that multiplies polynomials of degree n in time O(n log n 4^log*(n)) [HvdH19].

@platypii and I obtained a Lean proof of the same improvement for DFT over prime-order finite fields (yielding polynomial multiplication via the convolution theorem): https://github.com/platypii/integer-mult-bounds-lean/blob/ma...

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The recently proposed o(n log n) integer multiplication algorithm [pdf]

https://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~davidharvey/research/subnlogn.pdf
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