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Anthropic trained Claude on illegally obtained Stanford professors' books

https://stanforddaily.com/2026/10/27/professors-books-pirated-to-train-claude/
35•car•54m ago

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kenmacd•41m ago
The title is (I believe intentionally) inaccurate. Better would be:

Anthropic trained on illegally acquired Stanford professors' books

The article does not say the training was illegal (although does discuss the professors push for a licensing model).

alistairSH•16m ago
Distinction without a difference. They pirated books for the purpose of using them to train their models.

The noteworthy thing here, IMO, is the judge seems to have explicitly stated that using legally-acquired works to train AI models falls under fair use.

car•8m ago
Thanks, I concur and have changed the author’s original title to better represent the article.
frangonf•4m ago
Anthropic allegedly legally learned literature for large llms from illegally laundered illicit LibGen looted Stanford libraries?
mkw5053•24m ago
Of course they did, same with almost every other bit of training material that isn't synthetic (and still indirectly created with illegally obtained training data)
CPUHall•17m ago
Title is misleading. The ruling said training on books is fair use. What got them in trouble was grabbing the books from LibGen instead of just buying them, which is a pretty dumb way to lose $1.5B. If I torrented half a million books I'd be getting a lot more than a $3k-per-book settlement.
car•5m ago
Thanks, I’ve changed the submission title from the author’s original.
iamleppert•16m ago
Good! Information wants to be free, not locked up in some ivory tower. This is a great time upon us, when academics and ivy league elites can no longer gate keep knowledge and hoard it for their ego. Knowledge should benefit humanity as broadly as possible, not just the rich and their academic ilk.
qwerpy•5m ago
Haha. I appreciate the intent behind this. HN will hate and downvote it of course, but we need constant reminders that we are emotional, take sides just like everyone else, and selectively get outraged about things.
whywhywhywhy•15m ago
They did the same with literally everyone's data. Is it supposed to matter more because a "Stanford professor's" work was included?
piltdownman•11m ago
They were already eligible for damages as per the class-action settlement, but several Stanford professors actively opted out of the blanket class-action settlement to pursue Anthropic individually for higher damages.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/24/opinion/claude-pirated-bo...

Damn right too.

piltdownman•14m ago
And I presume the Anthropic CEO will be indicted on 13 felony counts under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and for wire fraud. Like Aaron Swartz, right?

Right?

N.B. JSTOR explicitly settled with Swartz, suffered no financial harm, and begged the federal government to drop the case. The government refused and prosecuted Swartz anyway. Anthropic settled for $1.5 billion primarily because of the theft and storage of the files, but this was somehow a Civil issue...

linuxftw•7m ago
Does copyright over knowledge-based works really have any legitimate position in today's society? We're entering a new age of how information is created, used, and distributed.
bushido•2m ago
They should get Opus or one of the latest models to be the morality judge of what goes into training.

I had an issue recently where I asked claude code to log into a developer user on Chrome on my local host for a system which is fully local and part of the code base the agent was developing and it refused to do it, like flat out refused, I did it on multiple sessions and I could not get Claude to budge on entering the credentials - it required me to manually sign in.

Would be amazing if they used that same level of training for their intake exercises.

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