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Mossad Has Devices Like the Exploding Pagers in "Every Country You Can Imagine" (2025)

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2462875/former-mossad-chief-yossi-cohen-planted-devices-like-the-exploding-hezbollah-pagers-are-in-every-country-you-can-imagine.html
46•newspaper1•49m ago

Comments

archerx•38m ago
How is this not terrorism if true?
beambot•36m ago
Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder -- usually the aggrieved party. Hence the saying, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
ars•35m ago
Terrorism is attacking civilians on purpose.
danbruc•8m ago
I have been wondering for some time if terrorism is considered acceptable in certain situations? In a David vs Goliath situation where there is no realistic chance of stopping or defeating a more powerful aggressor, would it be considered acceptable to use non-conventional means and terrorism? Or is the weaker victim expected to play by the rules of warfare and accept its eventual defeat?
ars•36m ago
"it was implemented across “virtually every potential theatre of operation.”"

War is not terrorism.

IOT_Apprentice•31m ago
Yes it is.
InsideOutSanta•30m ago
Terrorism is a war strategy.
pixl97•35m ago
"You're only terrorists if you're on the losing side"
OhMeadhbh•35m ago
There's probably an argument that it's okay when states do objectionable things. Certainly there are large portions of the population that are opposed to actions their states take on their behalf? What's the difference between the US bombing an Iranian pre-school and ISIS decapitating journalists? Mostly that one is sanctioned by a powerful state and the other is not.
ktallett•35m ago
Suggesting a country committing acts of terrorism are terrorists, seems to escape many.
InsideOutSanta•31m ago
It's quite literally terrorism. Telling people "we can blow people up anywhere in the world" is intended to make people afraid. It's deliberately creating a climate of fear. That's what terrorism is.
impossiblefork•31m ago
If it targets combatants, it isn't terrorism.

If it targets others, it is. Some countries have ideas like that only non-state entities can commit terrorism, but that is nonsense. My own country's laws don't distinguish between state and non-state acts in its terrorism legislation, for example.

newspaper1•27m ago
Putting bombs in consumer devices and releasing them into the public is always going to be terrorism.
soulofmischief•21m ago
Because we don't write the history books others use to teach our children.
OhMeadhbh•37m ago
Maybe we could do a survey of old mobile phones and pagers to see how many of them have explosives in them. I never thought of myself as a terrorist but if one of my phones wound up with a small bit of C4 in it, that would be a finding.
pixl97•34m ago
My question is how this isn't detectable, especially if people are moving them past things like airports?
hypfer•30m ago
It avoids detection by being hypothetical and imaginary, meaning that it exists purely on the meta layer where the scanners cannot reach.
sybercecurity•7m ago
I would guess the people targeted with these devices do not travel a lot via commercial airlines. Or at least do not carry phones that can be confiscated and scanned.
megous•30m ago
They likely mean manipulated equipment for purposes of spying. It follows from the context further in the article when he's talking about Gaza.

Ever wondered how much Israel uses their 8200 alumni it has embedded in all major tech corporations? Maybe this is part of it. Embedding backdoors, and plausibly deniable bugs, or giving access directly, exfiltrating data, whatever.

hypfer•35m ago
Not implausible, but also not implausible to lie there.

Why wouldn't you claim that you have this kind of capability? It only is beneficial to you especially when you're Mossad.

It is a very weird thing to say though, given that the pagers targeted a very specific group doing very specific things with very specific processes using very specific tools (the pagers).

The logistics of that don't check out. That's not something that just lurks "everywhere".

So Devices "like" the pagers.. what does that mean?

I suppose cyber implants (for the lack of a better word) would be plausible, but also stretching the whole "like" comparison.

Yes, these agencies have implants in tech. All of them do. Where's the news?

megous•20m ago
Smartphones are everywhere, and Israeli spyware is well known, some companies producing it are even banned in US. Not in EU though, for whatever reason. (one probably being, some governments are/were using it against opponents, like in Poland, Hungary or Greece)
oldsklgdfth•34m ago
If they have this sort of ability, can they supply chain attach to add headphone jacks back into smartphone?
InsideOutSanta•28m ago
If you can make a headphone jack out of trinitrotoluene, you can probably convince them to add it to every smartphone sold.
oldsklgdfth•10m ago
"Have you ever bought a produce that was almost perfect except for a couple of feature they never make. This is a solution for you. With our SCAAAS you can customize your product after the fact."

Supply Chain attack as a service.

sparrish•34m ago
This is more likely to be disinformation than it is to be true.

After the 'exploding pagers', every government was inspecting and scanning their devices.

It's in Mossad's favor to keep everyone second-guessing.

labrador•33m ago
Big deal. I could put bombs in things to kill people but I'm not a murderous person.
lykahb•31m ago
This looks like fake news. If there is a large number of such devices, they'd be discovered by the airport screening soon.
relayhacker•29m ago
The nuance is important. The title misquotes him. What he actually says is "In every country you can imagine" which is subtle but reads to me like "We've used this tactic everywhere we have conflict" and not what the title suggests which is "We have these in England, France, Russia, Australia..."
throw310822•31m ago
Not sure how reliable is this guy- and I don't think at all that he is referring literally to explosive devices, but just to long-running intelligence and spying operations with sophisticated logistics.

Anyway consider this. If you were Israel, where would you put more effort in:

1) fighting off a militia that is in no case a match for a country armed with F35s and nuclear weapons;

2) keep benefiting from the "unwavering" support of the West (and, by a lesser extent, the flow of money from the US)- which both grants you a state-of-the-art army and weapons, and a full diplomatic cover and support in any circumstance, from the most important actors in the world.

Now consider the amount of effort and cleverness they put in 1), and infer the amount of effort and cleverness they must be putting in 2).

bradleykingz•30m ago
jewish propaganda
bawolff•29m ago
It is election season in Israel right now, i cant help but wonder if there is some sort of internal politics going on with the article.

The article seems careful to say "manipulated equipment", which sounds more like snowden style eavesdropping devices than bombs. That would be more believable to me, as sneaking exploding devices into countries they are not at war with seems implausibly diplomatically stupid. It also mostly worked for hezbollah because they were a non state group that didnt have the budget to do supply chain security. I could see targeted spy devices being plausible, but hezbollah style exploding pagers doesnt seem all that plausible or even desirable against real countries.

Consider me doubtful.

If it was really true, i'm pretty sure they would STFU about it.

sheikhnbake•22m ago
Considering implausibly diplomatically stupid things Israel has done historically, I don't find this that far fetched. Particularly when they are very willing to act antagonistically towards an ally like the United States both publicly and privately.
rainworld•17m ago
The “I” stands for impunity.

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