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MicroZig to Adopt Strict No LLM / No AI Policy

https://github.com/ZigEmbeddedGroup/microzig/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
11•paaloeye•52m ago

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Tiberium•16m ago
"No LLMs for finding bugs." I really don't get rules such as these, plus they're not really enforceable. There's a difference between using the LLM to write the bug report and using the LLM to find the bug (if you suspect there is one) to then report after manual checking, in human words.
Tiberium•11m ago
Plus some of the issues are clearly written with LLMs, and apparently there's an active contributor who has been using LLMs to translate comments and help with code - https://github.com/ZigEmbeddedGroup/microzig/pull/1087:

> Yeah we know you're working with an LLM. That is fine (imo), as long as you're not doing drive-by slop PRs. These have been rather good quality, and you've been testing on hardware (which is important)

So it feels odd for them to suddenly change from this (clearly working) setup.

paaloeye•10m ago
Keep in mind the project HAS just adopted the policy
Tiberium•8m ago
My point is that it seems extremely strange to do that when they have developers who use LLMs already contribute to the project. I feel like they'll either alienate people who are interested, or just not care to enforce their no-LLM policy.
nnx•16m ago
> No LLMs for brainstorming and then sharing the results of that brainstorming, even if you create the prose.

I can understand the no automated AI contribution point of view, but going overboard with the above that is also completely unenforceable makes the policy look dumb.

janice1999•11m ago
Unenforceable - sure, but it's interesting and I see the logic. While LLMs are extremely useful, I find they homongenise things. Claude text is instantly identifiable and now all my co-workers presentations and docs sound like it. I'm sure that extra effort helps differentiate things (so many LLM generated sites look the same so not many people put in the effort).

A project without everyone putting the same filter between them and the work they submit might help a project evolve in interesting and different ways.

paaloeye•11m ago
The policy in question is based Zig's LLM policies, per the most active maintainer of the project, Matthew Knight — the author of Em Dash Counter

Sources:

- https://github.com/mattnite

- https://github.com/mattnite/em-dash-counter

- https://mattnite.net

samatman•8m ago
Love Zig. Great language, main one I use. Largely with agents, actually.

Sick of Andrew's arrogance. It's pervasive in the little clique of software heroes who are the only ones who get to touch his precious codebase now, along with the fratboy culture of contempt which always accompanies that kind of behavior.

Of course it's being cargo-culted by the embedded group, how else are they going to get Senpai to notice them.

Doesn't bode well for things going forward. Fortunately Zig was mostly done before AK started disappearing up his own posterior, so it's just a case where we'll have to accept a good language with some bizarre warts, rather than the truly excellent one it was shaping up to be.

So it goes. Good luck with that steel drivin', John Henry.

paaloeye•6m ago
Hard feelings?
paaloeye•8m ago
Matthew, the main maintainer, has no hard feeling if someone decides to make an LLM fork. Forks are welcome basically.

Indeed no hard feelings.

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MicroZig to Adopt Strict No LLM / No AI Policy

https://github.com/ZigEmbeddedGroup/microzig/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
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