I'm convinced the anti data center movement is foreign propaganda
marcus_holmes•20m ago
I know actual people who are deeply opposed to AI (well, the current AI tech anyway), for what seem to them to be good moral reasons.
I find the attitude a bit weird and very left-wing purity-spiral stuff, but it is a real attitude that real people have.
someothherguyy•9m ago
what is the purity spiral and why is it left wing?
it seems like a group of issues that the general public might be concerned about
gruez•6m ago
>what is the purity spiral and why is it left wing?
People trying to 1-up each other leading to the beliefs of a group being more polarized[1]. The naming doesn't imply it's a partisan phenomenon, any more than "right wing politician" implies politicians are a right wing phenomenon
i know what a purity spiral is. i was asking what this one is about and why the comment implied it is partisan
SubiculumCode•6m ago
It's both. It's not either or. It's absolutely both.
There are good reasons for people to be pissed off about data centers in the U.S.
China is absolutely funneling money to push anti-datacenter sentiment, and many of the people involved/receiving that money are not aware of where that money came from.
We are at the crux of a national security spiral in AI development that is naturally unpopular at home.
ares623•11m ago
it is woke mind virus propagated via 5g towers and vaccines
mulderc•10m ago
My neighbors take issue with people getting the wrong roof on their house. Not surprised people being against a data center nearby.
Dig1t•9m ago
My electricity bill is 50% higher than this same month 1 year ago. My friends and neighbors in my city have said that they also have greatly increased electricity bills. Whether or not that increase is due to a specific data center, it's extremely easy to blame it on the increased electricity usage of data centers, no foreign propaganda required.
10111001•7m ago
> I'm convinced the anti data center movement is foreign propaganda
Exactly! No rational person could oppose supergeniuses like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Marc Andreessen, etc., so if people do, the logical conclusion is that they've been manipulated by a psyop.
Science is my superpower!
hedora•10m ago
I’m pro-AI. I use it all the time. I max out my $200 claude subscription and own a strix halo.
The data center buildout makes no sense.
I don’t want to work for a Trump lapdog, so MAGA++ recruiters can go pound sand.
I don’t think SV leadership realizes how f—-ked they are.
stbenjam•23m ago
marcus_holmes•20m ago
I find the attitude a bit weird and very left-wing purity-spiral stuff, but it is a real attitude that real people have.
someothherguyy•9m ago
it seems like a group of issues that the general public might be concerned about
gruez•6m ago
People trying to 1-up each other leading to the beliefs of a group being more polarized[1]. The naming doesn't imply it's a partisan phenomenon, any more than "right wing politician" implies politicians are a right wing phenomenon
[1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage...
someothherguyy•5m ago
SubiculumCode•6m ago
There are good reasons for people to be pissed off about data centers in the U.S.
China is absolutely funneling money to push anti-datacenter sentiment, and many of the people involved/receiving that money are not aware of where that money came from.
We are at the crux of a national security spiral in AI development that is naturally unpopular at home.
ares623•11m ago
mulderc•10m ago
Dig1t•9m ago
10111001•7m ago
Exactly! No rational person could oppose supergeniuses like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Marc Andreessen, etc., so if people do, the logical conclusion is that they've been manipulated by a psyop.
Science is my superpower!