frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

OpenEoX to Standardize End-of-Life (EOL) and End-of-Support (EOS) Information

https://openeox.org/
31•feldrim•4mo ago

Comments

feldrim•4mo ago
An SBOM-like approach to EOL/EOS issues is on the way.
rollcat•4mo ago
I think the only large projects that presently take SBOMs seriously are Nix, Guix, and Go (non-cgo). Bootstrapping is non-trivial, but at least builds are reproducible and can be compared against existing binaries.

"Oh, just write plain C". Which compiler do you mean? GCC? LLVM/clang? On top of what OS/kernel? What firmware? Etc.

Arnavion•4mo ago
Some distros packaging Rust software (OpenSUSE at least) also transparently set up CARGO=cargo-audit to get embedded SBOMs.
wallrat•4mo ago
How does this relate to the OWASP/Ecma Common Lifecycle Enumeration Specification (https://tc54.org/cle/)?
wpollock•4mo ago
In my experience, many software projects become abandoned and no notice is given. I don't see how this standard helps in such cases.
repelsteeltje•4mo ago
I think it will take a while for people to realize this effort looked great, but wasn't the right approach. Or no silver bullet, at least.

The presentation with a simple diagram that combines this data with an sbom to yield "information" gives me navel gazing vibes of UML being the future of coding.

Just as architecture didn't equate to well designed and maintainable software, I fear this initiative won't fix horribly outdated and vulnerable deployments. Software life cycle, deprecation, abandonment, supply chains are mostly a process problem, standards and technology won't fix that.

Arnavion•4mo ago
It doesn't force someone who already wasn't checking their dependencies for CVEs / maintained-ness to start doing that. It does make someone who *was* doing that be able to show they're doing that in some standard way.

In other words it doesn't force you to add an SBOM + EOX checker step to your CI pipeline. But if your compliance auditor wants you to check your dependencies, adding such a standardized step makes it easier to satisfy the auditor.

repelsteeltje•4mo ago
I'm basing this mostly off first hand and anecdotal evidence - but through the years I've found that the major contribution of audits lies in having to think about the checkboxes every now and then. And what they mean in the context of my organization or project.

Rarely have I found that compliance to the goals was an issue in themselves. Or that making changes to tick a checkbox correlated to material improvements.

That is to say that if this leads to more efficiency and makes it easier for compliance audits and such, I fear is stream lining the least impactful part of its goals.

hiatus•4mo ago
> Rarely have I found that compliance to the goals was an issue in themselves. Or that making changes to tick a checkbox correlated to material improvements.

I am confused when I hear people say stuff like this. I guess if you turn on a tool and never look at it again, it won't result in material improvements. But complying with regulations or a particular compliance regime should _absolutely_ result in at least _some_ material improvement to your security posture. Like you can implement segregation of duties just as a checkbox, or use the requirement to revisit the way you gate changes to production, as just one example.

repelsteeltje•4mo ago
It depends on where you're coming from. Your code base, that is.

If it's already outstanding, you spend a lot of time revalidating what you already know and it's often a noisy process with many false positives.

If it's in a horrible state, however, the regulation often leaves a lot of wiggle room where you do some work to achieve, say, PCI compliance and then spend a lot of time arguing why this and that don't apply in your specific case.

So admitted, the is probably some improvement in the latter case but it's hardly proportional.

So IMHO, it doesn't help those of good will & expertise and does too little for the negligent. It adds noise and in the end quality still depends on factors other than compliance and certification.

T3OU-736•4mo ago
Htm. So, how does this compare, and/or is different from https://endoflife.date?
Arnavion•4mo ago
The standard is for software to report its own EOL / EOS status. The website you linked is the opposite direction - it's aggregating that status for a certain set of software.
T3OU-736•4mo ago
Aha. Very good point. SW self-reporting requires buy-in, though, which seems like a pretty high barrier.

I am very much hoping the effort succeeds, but I am also mindful of the fact that the site to which I have linked is more successful by virtue of having better coverage.

captn3m0•4mo ago
We (endoflife.date) are also excited about OpenEoX.
mud_dauber•4mo ago
JEDEC has long maintained an EOL/EOS standard for semiconductors. This was a big part of a previous PM gig. Sounds boring, and it was. But having a process kept us out of serious hot water.
Hackbraten•4mo ago
That EoX logo though.

Every organization or committee that designs a logo should be legally required to have at least one teenager on the board to prevent accidental goatse or other inadvertent blunders.

genter•4mo ago
Goatse has been around long enough that the teenagers are now in their thirties.

Hosting a website on a disposable vape

https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/
44•BogdanTheGeek•25m ago•257 comments

Asciinema CLI 3.0 rewritten in Rust, adds live streaming, upgrades file format

https://blog.asciinema.org/post/three-point-o/
134•ku1ik•2h ago•23 comments

Wanted to spy on my dog, ended up spying on TP-Link

https://kennedn.com/blog/posts/tapo/
84•kennedn•1h ago•15 comments

React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation

https://www.lorenstew.art/blog/react-won-by-default/
27•dbushell•33m ago•22 comments

PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

https://newsroom.paypal-corp.com/2025-09-15-PayPal-Ushers-in-a-New-Era-of-Peer-to-Peer-Payments,-...
173•DocFeind•4h ago•121 comments

Launch HN: Trigger.dev (YC W23) – Open-source platform to build reliable AI apps

73•eallam•2h ago•30 comments

CubeSats are fascinating learning tools for space

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/cubesats-are-fascinating-learning-tools-space
111•warrenm•4h ago•43 comments

Boring Work Needs Tension

https://iaziz786.com/blog/boring-work-needs-tension/
36•iaziz786•2h ago•22 comments

How big a solar battery do I need to store all my home's electricity?

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/09/how-big-a-solar-battery-do-i-need-to-store-all-my-homes-electric...
128•FromTheArchives•5h ago•199 comments

Programming Deflation

https://tidyfirst.substack.com/p/programming-deflation
78•dvcoolarun•4h ago•44 comments

Self-Assembly Gets Automated in Reverse of 'Game of Life'

https://www.quantamagazine.org/self-assembly-gets-automated-in-reverse-of-game-of-life-20250910/
16•kjhughes•3d ago•0 comments

How to self-host a web font from Google Fonts

https://blog.velocifyer.com/Posts/3,0,0,2025-8-13,+how+to+self+host+a+font+from+google+fonts.html
58•Velocifyer•3h ago•65 comments

RustGPT: A pure-Rust transformer LLM built from scratch

https://github.com/tekaratzas/RustGPT
295•amazonhut•8h ago•140 comments

Researchers revive the pinhole camera for next-gen infrared imaging

https://phys.org/news/2025-09-revive-pinhole-camera-gen-infrared.html
7•wglb•3d ago•1 comments

Microsoft to force install the Microsoft 365 Copilot app in October

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-the-microsoft-365-copi...
78•mikece•1h ago•46 comments

Removing newlines in FASTA file increases ZSTD compression ratio by 10x

https://log.bede.im/2025/09/12/zstandard-long-range-genomes.html
191•bede•3d ago•76 comments

Show HN: Daffodil – Open-Source Ecommerce Framework to connect to any platform

https://github.com/graycoreio/daffodil
35•damienwebdev•3h ago•3 comments

Show HN: AI-powered web service combining FastAPI, Pydantic-AI, and MCP servers

https://github.com/Aherontas/Pycon_Greece_2025_Presentation_Agents
5•Aherontas•21h ago•1 comments

A string formatting library in 65 lines of C++

https://riki.house/fmt
22•PaulHoule•2h ago•9 comments

Folks, we have the best π

https://lcamtuf.substack.com/p/folks-we-have-the-best
267•fratellobigio•11h ago•72 comments

Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

https://alastair.is/apple-has-a-private-css-property-to-add-liquid-glass-effects-to-web-content/
210•_alastair•3h ago•113 comments

The Mac App Flea Market

https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2025/mac-app-flea-market/
215•ingve•11h ago•103 comments

Language models pack billions of concepts into 12k dimensions

https://nickyoder.com/johnson-lindenstrauss/
318•lawrenceyan•14h ago•109 comments

Show HN: Semlib – Semantic Data Processing

https://github.com/anishathalye/semlib
41•anishathalye•4h ago•10 comments

Creating a VGA Signal in Hubris

https://lasernoises.com/blog/hubris-vga/
21•lasernoises•3h ago•4 comments

Show HN: MCP Server Installation Instructions Generator

https://hyprmcp.com/mcp-install-instructions-generator/
4•pmig•3h ago•0 comments

Death to type classes

https://jappie.me/death-to-type-classes.html
89•zeepthee•3d ago•52 comments

Show HN: I reverse engineered macOS to allow custom Lock Screen wallpapers

https://cindori.com/backdrop
59•cindori•9h ago•37 comments

Pgstream: Postgres streaming logical replication with DDL changes

https://github.com/xataio/pgstream
56•fenn•5h ago•4 comments

A qualitative analysis of pig-butchering scams

https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.20821
165•stmw•14h ago•91 comments