frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

LLM-D: Kubernetes-Native Distributed Inference

https://llm-d.ai/blog/llm-d-announce
120•smarterclayton•1y ago

Comments

anttiharju•1y ago
I wonder if this is preferable to kServe
smarterclayton•1y ago
llm-d would make sense if you are running a very large production LLM serving setup - say 5+ full H100 hosts. The aim is to be much more focused than kserve is on exactly the needs of serving LLMs. It would of course be possible to run alongside kserve, but the user we are targeting is not typically a kserve deployer today.
anttiharju•1y ago
Do you think https://github.com/openai/CLIP can be ran on it? LLM makes me think of chatbots but I suppose because it's inference-based it would work. Somewhat unclear on what's the difference between LLMs and inference, I think inference is the type of compute LLMs use.

I wonder if inference-d would be a fitting name.

smarterclayton•1y ago
Inference is the process of evaluating a model ("inferring" a response to the inputs). LLMs are uniquely difficult to serve because they push the limits on the hardware.

The models we support come from the model server vLLM https://docs.vllm.ai/en/latest/models/supported_models.html, which has a focus on large generative models. I don't see CLIP in the list.

dzr0001•1y ago
I did a quick scan of the repo and didn't see any reference to Ray. Would this indicate that llm-d lacks support for pipeline parallelism?
qntty•1y ago
I believe this is a question you should ask about vLLM, not llm-d. It looks like vLLM does support pipeline parallelism via Ray: https://docs.vllm.ai/en/latest/serving/distributed_serving.h...

This project appears to make use of both vLLM and Inference Gateway (an official Kubernetes extension to the Gateway resource). The contributions of llm-d itself seems to mostly be a scheduling algorithm for load balancing across vLLM instances.

smarterclayton•1y ago
We inherit any multi-host support from vLLM, so https://docs.vllm.ai/en/latest/serving/distributed_serving.h... would be the expected path.

We plan to publish examples of multi-host inference that leverages LeaderWorkerSets - https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/lws - which helps run ranked serving workloads across hosts. LeaderWorkerSet is how Google supports both TPU and GPU multi-host deployments - see https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/lws/blob/main/config/samp... for an example.

Edit: Here is an example Kubernetes configuration running DeepSeek-R1 on vLLM multi-host using LeaderWorkerSet https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/wg-serving/blob/main/serv.... This work would be integrated into llm-d.

rdli•1y ago
This is really interesting. For SOTA inference systems, I've seen two general approaches:

* The "stack-centric" approach such as vLLM production stack, AIBrix, etc. These set up an entire inference stack for you including KV cache, routing, etc.

* The "pipeline-centric" approach such as NVidia Dynamo, Ray, BentoML. These give you more of an SDK so you can define inference pipelines that you can then deploy on your specific hardware.

It seems like LLM-d is the former. Is that right? What prompted you to go down that direction, instead of the direction of Dynamo?

qntty•1y ago
It sounds like you might be confusing different parts of the stack. NVIDIA Dynamo for example supports vLLM as the inference engine. I think you should think of something like vLLM as more akin to GUnicorn, and llm-d as an application load balancer. And I guess something like NVIDIA Dynamo would be like Django.
smarterclayton•1y ago
llm-d is intended to be three clean layers:

1. Balance / schedule incoming requests to the right backend

2. Model server replicas that can run on multiple hardware topologies

3. Prefix caching hierarchy with well-tested variants for different use cases

So it's a 3-tier architecture. The biggest difference with Dynamo is that llm-d is using the inference gateway extension - https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/gateway-api-inference-ext... - which brings Kubernetes owned APIs for managing model routing, request priority and flow control, LoRA support etc.

rdli•1y ago
I would think that that the NVidia Dynamo SDK (pipelines) is a big difference as well (https://github.com/ai-dynamo/dynamo/tree/main/deploy/sdk/doc...), or am I missing something?
Kemschumam•1y ago
What would be the benefit of this project over hosting VLLM in Ray?
smarterclayton•1y ago
That's a good example - I can at least answer about why it's a difference: different target user.

As I understand the Dynamo SDK it is about simplifying and helping someone get started with Dynamo on Kubernetes.

From the user set we work with (large inference deployers) that is not a high priority - they already have mature deployment opinions or a set of tools that would not compose well with something like the Dynamo SDK. Their comfort level with Kubernetes is moderate to high - either they use Kubernetes for high scale training and batch, or they are deploying to many different providers in order to get enough capacity and need a standard orchestration solution.

llm-d focuses on helping achieve efficiency dynamically at runtime based on changing traffic or workload on Kubernetes - some of the things the Dynamo SDK encodes are static and upfront and would conflict with that objective. Also, large deployers with serving typically have significant batch and training and they are looking to maximize capacity use without impacting their prod serving. That requires the orchestrator to know about both workloads at some level - which Dynamo SDK would make more difficult.

rdli•1y ago
In this analogy, Dynamo is most definitely not like Django. It includes inference aware routing, KV caching, etc. -- all the stuff you would need to run a modern SOTA inference stack.
qntty•1y ago
You're right, I was confusing TensorRT with Dynamo. It looks like the relationship between Dynamo and vLLM is actually the opposite of what I was thinking -- Dynamo can use vLLM as a backend rather than vice versa.

Jensen Huang resigns

https://apnews.com/article/nvidia-megaspeed-china-singapore-huang-5403f152a601cf82ce939f1d24fffa0f
2614•lldb•8h ago•2515 comments

Rust 1.100

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/11/12/Rust-1.100.0/
243•mbStavola•4h ago•124 comments

Gemini 4 Hydrogen and Orchestrator

https://antigravity.google/blog/gemini-4-hydrogen-in-google-antigravity/
201•jonbaer•3h ago•47 comments

Foundation Models framework

https://developer.apple.com/foundation-models-framework/
51•kermatt•1h ago•8 comments

Dwarf planet candidate appears which takes roughly 280 years to orbit our sun

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/astronomers-found-a-mysterious-object-orbiting-far-beyo...
146•cybermango•3h ago•63 comments

Show HN: My $300 embroidery machine needed a subscription, so I built my own app

https://github.com/simpsoka/zigzag
232•simpsoka•5h ago•98 comments

Service degradation on Microsoft 365

https://status.cloud.microsoft/
357•dkpk•4h ago•343 comments

22-Year-Old PostgreSQL Bug Turned into Remote Code Execution

https://mehmetince.net/part-3-6-how-i-ended-up-turning-a-22-year-old-postgresql-type-confusion-pr...
104•ozirus•4h ago•12 comments

I'm making LLMs work on small and old devices

https://github.com/hyperionaidev/smolmaxxing/
245•mrashad74•7h ago•86 comments

Abandoned Quake 4 expansion finished by modders and now playable

https://www.moddb.com/mods/openq4/downloads/openq4-0141-windows-x64
225•klaussilveira•8h ago•77 comments

AI is turning Apple's app review process into a nightmare for synth developers

https://synthanatomy.com/2026/11/ai-is-turning-apples-app-review-process-into-a-nightmare-for-dev...
19•anigbrowl•1h ago•10 comments

Relax: JIT compiler for Rust to reduce build times

https://makepad.github.io/relax/
84•adamnemecek•1d ago•38 comments

Safety in Algae Home Experiments

https://chillphysicsenjoyer.substack.com/p/algae-safety-in-home-experiments
13•surprisetalk•2d ago•0 comments

Gemini 4 Hydrogen

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-4-hydr...
403•dvaplima•4h ago•268 comments

Why writing correct software is hard and why math (alone) won’t help us (2016)

https://pron.github.io/posts/correctness-and-complexity
340•AriFordsham•12h ago•163 comments

Talking Zen 6 with Mike Clark at AMD In-Depth

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/talking-zen-6-with-mike-clark-at
168•dverlaeckt80•8h ago•2 comments

Distributed Ray Tracer

https://ray.hatchet.run
28•juliusgeo•3h ago•11 comments

Show HN: AgentRun – open-source, Self-improving Managed Agents

https://github.com/Parcha-ai/agentrun/blob/main/README.md
64•miguelrios•4h ago•11 comments

Adapting CPython for Yk

https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2026/adapting_cpython_for_yk.html
32•frostbyte7•9h ago•1 comments

Anthropic IPO

https://ipo.anthropic.com/us/
761•josephljohnston•10h ago•758 comments

Beyond the compiler: Making IBM i run modified native code

https://blog.silentsignal.eu/2026/11/10/Beyond-the-compiler-Making-IBM-i-run-modified-native-code...
5•dnet•2d ago•1 comments

Words of warning about radiocarbon dating medieval human bones

https://www.nature.com/articles/s40494-026-02958-x
43•gumby•1d ago•4 comments

Data centers need power – lower income, rural residents pay the price

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2026/11/data-centers-need-power-lower-income-rural-residents-pay...
143•PaulHoule•2h ago•144 comments

Show HN: Kapso – Iterative learning from enterprise data

30•alireza_msh•4h ago•9 comments

Chinese frontier AI models carry the fingerprint of export-controlled GPUs

https://unemploymentlabs.com/checkpoint-forensics
35•firloop•49m ago•6 comments

ExcalidrawZ: Local Native Excalidraw on macOS/iOS

https://github.com/chocoford/ExcalidrawZ
96•Qision•7h ago•24 comments

Our software engineering interviews are changing a little

https://blog.janestreet.com/software-engineering-interviews-are-changing-a-little/
147•maitland•8h ago•138 comments

A live tree of systemd jobs on the boot console

https://codeberg.org/wvhulle/bootvine
344•orhunp_•3d ago•133 comments

Singapore Says U.S. Not Helpful on Investigation into Suspected Spy's Company

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/12/business/nvidia-megaspeed-alice-huang.html
135•tedd4u•4h ago•48 comments

Nintendo Takes Down Emulators and Firmware in Massive GitHub DMCA Sweep

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-takes-down-switch-emulators-and-mod-chip-firmware-in-massiv...
246•CharlesW•6h ago•178 comments