https://wolf.org/media-releases/new-study-shows-wolves-save-...
the height restriction alone should have been reason enough to go with a tunnel, but how could CA miss an opportunity for construction waste /s
Do you think that didn’t happen, that you’re significantly smarter about wildlife bridges than the folks who planned this one (who were, apparently, too dumb to ask a question you thought of sixty seconds after reading about the amount of concrete used), or just deeply into throwing shade, deserved or not, at CA at every half-imagined opportunity?
Emphasis mine. So still just about the amount of concrete. Ok. Good talk.
Because I agree about the cost of these things. They should be designed to be inexpensive so we can put them everywhere (eg: i90 through cascades… there is only 1 of these and it’s on the east side of the pass).
It annoys me greatly how seemingly over engineered and expense these are. We put a huge fence that divides the entire mountain range. These bridges should be all over.
That being said I’m pretty sure a lot of research goes into designing a wildlife bridge that animals want to cross. I think there was a practical engineering YouTube video that covered it. Turns out each species has their own preferences and peculiarities when it comes to this sort of thing. So to counter my own argument… it does no good to build a ton of these if no animals will actually feel comfortable using them.
Maybe they should fund some kind of wildlife outreach program and give brochures and flyers to the local wildlife explaining how to use their new overpass…
For the Snoqualmie bridge, (some of) the local wildlife trespassed to use it before it opened, so I'm not sure if they need to do much outreach.
I think the better projects include post construction observation and reasonable minor modifications to help encourage use; typically adjustments to fencing or maybe some earth works.
Especially if you want to do the work with minimal disruption to the highway.
Let's hope more of these get built in US. ( While not being crazy expensive )
Now sure, it likely took some years in the planning as well, but it shows that infrastructure can be built in reasonable time lines when politics and nimbyism don't get in the way.
And this isn't a simple bit of construction- it spans a serious bit of active highway.
This bridge for deer took 3 times longer to build than the Empire State Building.
If the Empire State Building had been built across a highway, and had to schedule construction around avoiding disruptions to traffic, than it would've taken three years too.
The only evidence they ever found of his body was a finger joint. My dad said the body just turns into spray at those speeds.
0 people died constructing this bridge.
I guess if you think working class people's lives aren't important then the human cost doesn't matter to you, but for non-sociopaths it does matter.
We should expect this math to continue as prime working age cohort shrinks over the next century due to structural demographics.
Even without looking at China and Middle East - in Texas they build entire highway intersection in a year.
in Texas they build entire highway intersection in a year
California can and has rebuilt bridges in a weekend. And based on the TX Dept of Transportation website, construction on the Dallas High Five took 4 years from start to finish, after a decade of planning. And cost more than this bridge despite requiring less infrastructure to be constructed.
More modest projects should be considered. Like simple bridges, or large culverts running underneath the highway.
The article doesn't mention it, it only says:
> National Park Service began a decades-long study of the region’s mountain lion population that the 101 freeway was deemed “the most significant barrier to the ecological health of the region.”
> NEPA Completed 04/12/2018: Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI), Liberty Canyon Wildlife Habitat Connectivity Project
> In compliance with CEQA, Caltrans held a 47-day public scoping period to allow the public and regulatory agencies an opportunity to comment on the scope of the IS/EA and to identify issues that should be addressed in the environmental document. A scoping report documents the issues and concerns expressed during the public scoping meetings held on January 14, 2016 and the written comments received from the public, community organizations, and governmental agencies during the public scoping period from December 14, 2015 through January 29, 2016. The release of the Final Environmental Document with responses to comments included was completed in the summer of 2016. NEPA/CEQA was completed in April 2018. A total of 8,859 comments were received in response to the draft Environmental Document, with only 15 opposed.
When any infrastructure project requires nearly a decade of preliminary work before shovels hit ground, said work becomes impossible to accomplish for smaller-scale builds. Even if ten smaller bridges would be a better solution, 10x-ing the review process would likely be impossible at current staffing / budget levels.
It's a big problem.
I'm sure there's more to it than that, but making it desirable, accessible, and for it to feel safe for the target animal population is important for it to accomplish what it's intended to do.
There are smaller culverts all over the place for smaller wildlife. I've even seen some called out in small walking paths--there for the frogs and other amphibians.
Like Elton did for Diana with Candle in the Wind.
At least they finally built a way for the animals to cross again. I can't imagine how long it would take to walk across that eco bridge thing.
It's something the locals have known was needed for a long time, I'm glad they were finally able to get it built.
Note that the article also says it offers an escape route from wildfires, so it goes both ways.
Which took less typing to find than making the comment.
https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/wisley-sche...
erulabs•7mo ago
As much as I’m happy about this I find myself skeptical that wildlife will learn to use it. Do animals walk along the side of the highway looking for openings? Have there been any studies on the efficacy of these wildlife bridges?
PaulHoule•7mo ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9753749/
In my neighborhood (NY not VA) we had some people make a crossing for these guys this spring
https://www.virginiaherpetologicalsociety.com/amphibians/sal...
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Studies: https://triekol.se/triekol-3-eng/over-and-underpasses-for-la...
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There's precedence in the natural world. A single log can get a lot of use by all types of critters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsDU_tTgsFw
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