Plus, humans were MEANT to have dogs, and dogs were meant to have humans. We grew up together; dogs are one of our first forays into genetic engineering. We created an animal which was perfectly acclimated to human companionship
Since puppies turn into full grown dogs quite quickly, how often do you suggest I replace the puppy?
> We created an animal which was perfectly acclimated to human companionship
This is why I think having a cat is so much more satisfying. A dog loves you unconditionally, not by choice but because it was literally bred to do so. Despite this you still have to keep it on a leash. Cats by contrast stay with you because they want to, despite having every opportunity to move in with someone else.
I’ll bite - you replace the puppy when the one you have expires after 14 years. Don’t be that guy.
Cats have also been engineered for companionship in areas where dogs weren’t economical. Cats were big in Egypt. However, like you said, cats have their own agenda - murder. Your outdoor cat has killed more small animals than your vet. Neuter/spay them and keep them inside.
You must complete the mission before the puppy becomes a dog. Otherwise you must wait 14 years until you can get another puppy.
The 'mission' being ...? One night stand? Fling? Established relationship?
Because people who find puppy ownership attractive probably won't stay with someone who re-homes the animal once they get what they really want.
Cats won’t alarm you if a stranger sneaks into your tribes living area or your apartment. I have a 10 pound mix and I guarantee you she would take on a thousand pound grizzly knowing it was fruitless but in order to protect her pack including me. A cat is going to just run away from things like that and yeah I’ve seen the cat saves toddler from bobcat stories but those are the exception and probably more related to territorial. Who do you want a person who was raised to be a loyal friend and would sacrifice themselves for you or a person who is fickle and hard to win approval of and even when you do win their approval they start eating you within a few hours of your death.
Not all dogs can be trained to stay next to you. At least, not by all owners
I have a husky mix whose prey drive means he will charge at other dogs, kids, usually playful but not always. Positive reinforcement is meaningless because he cares more about the chase than any treat.
Also dog owners don’t seem to understand that the sweet loving animal they have at home can be very aggressive towards anyone not part of their pack
I have had off-leash dogs start scrapping with mine on walks and I GO OFF on those owners. 100% of the time they never apologize and tell me how gentle their dog is
Well lady, your dogs charged mine, barking and growling. And and I don’t like breaking up dog fights.
Point is dogs and owners come in all kinds. Lots of bad ones out there.
Building a loving bond with a dog still takes work and energy. It's just that, genetically and instinctually they have a communication advantage: they can read humans better and emote to humans in more obvious ways than cats (having even evolved special muscles around the eyes to do so!). It's not like earning a dog's respect and love is inherently trivial. It's just that most people haven't moved past the "he's plotting to murder me" type assumptions about cats.
We made dogs for us because we needed them for protection.
And you advocate getting a dog now due some stupid reason and then keeping it potentially in a flat?
Don't get a dog. Don't get animals which don't get the env they need.
Don't get breeds which became breed into sickness.
I love dogs and cats but I am not someone who cares enough to properly take care of a dog or cat. So I do the responsible thing and don't have pets.
Getting a dog specifically to meet women seems insane to me. There are all kinds of conversation starters that don't involve getting a living animal.
Unless you're defining "roads" to mean "not sidewalks", then almost by definition the statement "roads are only for cars" is false, because sidewalks are part of roads, reserved for pedestrians, and therefore roads aren't only for cars. The fact that there are reserved lanes for a particular type of traffic doesn't imply there was some sort of "concession that roads are only for" some other type of traffic, any more than bus lanes, HOV lanes, or bike lanes imply that pedestrians are getting pushed out.
From wikipedia:
"The primary features of roads include lanes, sidewalks (pavement), roadways (carriageways), medians, shoulders, verges, bike paths (cycle paths), and shared-use paths. "
Emphasis mine
>and why should they? In sensible countries walking in the general traffic lanes of a regular street is be fine.
I don't know what "sensible countries" you're talking about. Sidewalks are hardly some sort of concept exclusive to car-centeric America. Even bike/pedestrian friendly European countries have separate lanes for pedestrians, with some very limited exceptions such as during festivals/events.
Big tech has displaced those and replaced them with nothing.
Some old traditions are now competing with a larger variety of physical and virtual activities. IMO you could blame the car as much as the smart phone.
My grandparents are in their late 90s and they never had such issues. I was always amazed how they knew all their neighbours and visited each other without announcement. I guess it's something we lost with WW2.
Remote work also plays a big part in isolating us, but people seem to want to work remotely more than they want to go into an office. So again, you're fighting the tide.
Socialization is as broken as you want it to be. There is no shortage of activities like pickleball, which is highly social by nature, or more niche activities if sports aren't your thing. If anything, I'd say the massive number of available activities make it so easy to find our niche that we end up never interacting with other huge swaths of society simply because we have that choice.
The way to know in advance whether a dog will be destructive (after the puppy teething stage) is to buy a purebred. I know that everyone recommends adopting from a shelter, and that's a great option for many dog owners. But if you need more predictability then you can select a specific breed based on known temperament and typical behavior, then buy a puppy from a reputable breeder with good health records.
Thanks for letting me know right off the bat to not read any further :)
> Goes on to ridicule his own mom for the viewership of complete strangers
Um, yeah……I just use meetup.com to find groups with shared interests. It was a great way to make new friends.
If you value socializing then create the opportunity for it, join a group activity or start one in your city and use social media to announce meets and eventually people will come. Shared experience is the most powerful social glue between people.
If you want to date go out Thu/Fri/Sat nights and sample Bars/Clubs in your city until you find 2-3 ones you like. Then start hanging out there every week until you feel comfortable. The goal is not to talk to attractive people, but to meet peers who are in the same position as you and then start/join a guys/girls group to do things together every week.
If you really like dogs and want to have a pet, then go for it. Just don't use it as a form of giving up on fundamental human needs, you're more resourceful than that.
> Just don't use it as a form of giving up on fundamental human needs, you're more resourceful than that.
This glib advice is what lands you in an uncomfortable HR meeting or is the reason you won't get invited back for game nights. This will be deeply hurtful to families struggling with fertility or adoption and to individuals who experienced the foster system.
Neither apathy nor ignorance affect adoption or pregnancy. Families will be excluded by the staggering costs, marital status, employment history, disability, and gender and sexual identity.
Ive written a few versions of this reply. Some included my personal background having been moved by protective services, or some emotional stories about my siblings in the foster system, some with swears, and one was simply "check yourself." The issue is deeply personal. More advocacy is always appreciated, but I implore you to tune in.
A lot of people got dogs during the pandemic because they were at home 24/7
Now many of those dogs got sent to shelters because they weren’t properly socialized being isolated in the pandemic and the owners needed to go back to work
This isn’t knowing your enemy. It’s admitting you knowingly read articles that reinforce your bias. Reading or watching FOX News would be to know thy enemy
absurdo•4h ago
Recent related thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44223212
cwmoore•3h ago
The rest of the article is about sidewalks.
bot403•3h ago
And the conclusion is about a falafel.
graemep•3h ago
This is about a dog as an additional companion, and having a dog being a social lubricant rather than a substitute for any form of human companionship or interaction.
Blamido•3h ago
A dog for getting laid vs. being your best friend
the__alchemist•3h ago
I think you can draw a line between general dog ownership, and the codependent relationship from the linked article. The latter is very common in women in their 30s near where I live, but I don't think it generalizes. e.g. entire personality revolves around the dog, can't leave the dog for any appreciable amount of time, cuddles with the dog in the bed, kisses the dog on the mouth, prioritizes the dog over family, friend, and romantic relationships etc.
alphazard•3h ago