other than that i don't really believe owning EU data is the battle we can win with more regulations. I bet in 10 years nothing will change, maybe a few more grants, a few more laws..
I think the issue at hand is that we've been half-assing our regulatory efforts.
And in cases where Western companies don't want to invest in China due to their regulations, local alternatives seem to quickly pick up the slack and over time even become better than their Western counterparts (at least in certain aspects). Just look at all those Chat+Payment things over there.
You either bend a foreign company to your will or you get to build a local champion.
It's hard to transplant the Chinese experience elsewhere. Not only due to Europe's current far greater dependence on American software and cloud providers, but also due to China's far larger pool of technical expertise, likely resulting from many decades of heavy emphasis on math and science education, together with far greater social and monetary rewards. I doubt that European politicians or their electorates have the patience for a big turnaround that may not start to pay off for several decades or even generations.
And that fear grows when American companies pump money in the EU representatives. /s
They keep trying to hammer through anti-encryption or logging or scanning laws.
Big picture, there isn't a government in the world that is better for their citizens than the EU, but it's more like least-worst.
For example, free speech is a thing that the EU or its national governments love to encroach on and I am quite envious of the fiery defense it gets in the US.
Or are you saying that you would personally find it easier with fewer regulations? For instance, there are probably laws that make it illegal for people to point a gun at you and make you hand them all your money. Do those hurt your business?
If you can't run a business in Europe, maybe it's the wrong business, or maybe you're in the wrong place. But there are hundreds of millions of people in Europe who have a job, so I think it's safe to say that it's not impossible to run a business in Europe.
Plus in my deep Penguin days, SuSE was one of my favourite distros, I loved yast based management, and the KDE integration.
Does it matter what country a programming language originates from?
Some examples,
https://www.java.com/en/download/help/error_embargoed.html
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/nuget/nuget-org/policies/e...
it's honestly a crime that they don't get more traction. Tooling they've put out like the Open Build Service (which is distro agnostic), is fantastic. I've been using Tumbleweed on dev machines for a long time, and the fact that they ship fully tested images is imo just a vastly better way to do a rolling release.
When we bring a problem to them, which we pay them for, the turn around time is awful, and about 2/5 cases I end up having to break out the debugging tools and root cause/fix fix it because their support engineers can't be bothered.
Especially their nVidia support. Worse than useless.
nVidia is neither Java nor a web server.
* All 3rd party binaries such as fonts, sounds, artwork and branding
* Packages without public available source
* Packages with non-Open Source license
nVidia not being mentioned, means they're not excluded.
nVidia certainly seem to think that their drivers are open source [0]. You'll also note that nVidia seem to think SUSE will provide source for those driver modules, in that announcement.
[0] https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-sourc...
SUSE also really like their "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!"-style random subscription audits too.
I’ve often wondered if the support is better if one is on the “correct”side of the Atlantic.
At a minimum, one would have the benefit of having time zone alignment with Engineering staff.
“We’re waiting for Engineering in Germany to get back to us.” is a common refrain.
jpalomaki•7mo ago
We should not just focus on the location. It's about who is managing the servers and networks.
anonzzzies•7mo ago
pjc50•7mo ago
https://siliconangle.com/2023/08/18/suse-taken-private-major...
bgwalter•7mo ago
Now that they are completely disentangled again, let's hope they restore the popularity. It is a good distribution.
overfeed•7mo ago
It wasn't the takeover, it was splitting SUSE linux into a paid stable/supported distro and a testing/community distro, like Red Hat had just done with RHEL/Fedora. Unlike Red Hat, SUSE didn't have the critical mass to force the community to be guinea pigs for paid customers, and it withered as folk switched to other distros, including the hot new entrant: ubuntu.
rascul•7mo ago
diggan•7mo ago
True, but location matters a great deal, because some countries have a tendency to MITM any physical link they can get their hands on, even if that means scuba divers or secret rooms. But also who it is who is managing it, agree.
hulitu•7mo ago
The same countries have physical access to links in other countries, through agreements.
diggan•7mo ago