You can't walk for more than five minutes in the UK without tripping over some nonsense like this. History is very important, and traditon has its place, but really? As a brit I find it all kind of tediously performative sometimes.
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/71416/tradition-go...
See also; the King's Remembrancer and the Quit Rent Ceremony and the Trial of the Pyx:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Remembrancer
It is truly strange how my country can create a political and cultural operating system that allows this stuff to just go on and on for almost 800 years, right up to now.
I mean, you have to admire the stamina for that.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/oxforduni/comments/q0giir/my_all_so...
* Oops, they link to my post at the bottom. Sorry for the redundancy.
I don't think I've ever heard of a scheduled ritual that has a longer period. You're guaranteed to never have anyone present at more than one of these, so surely many aspects of the ritual will wander quite far from the original?
As for LLMs on the All Souls test, it's predictable that it mostly whiffs. After all it takes in a diet of Reddit+Wikipedia+etc, none of which is the kind of writing they are looking for.
Reddit is a lot of crappy comments. If you have no grounding in reality (being a thing that lives in a datacentre), how are you going to curate it? Some subs are really quite good, but most are really quite bad. It's not easy to get guidance, of the kind you would get if you sat with a professor for three or four hours a week for a few years, which is what the humanities students actually do.
Wikipedia is a great reference work, but it tends to not have any of the kinds of connections you're supposed to make in these essays. It has a lot of factual stuff, so questions about Persia will look ok, like in the article. But questions that glue together ideas across areas? Nah. Even if that's in the dataset somewhere, how is the LLM supposed to know that the sort of refined writing of a cross-subject academic is the highest level of the humanities? It doesn't, so it spits out what the average Redditor might glue together from a bit of googling.
https://chatgpt.com/share/689e5361-fad8-8010-b203-f4f80d1457...
It does a pretty good job summarizing an abstruse, but known, subfield of frontier research. (So, perhaps not doing its own "gluing" of areas....) It clearly lacks "depth", in the sense of deep thinking about the why and how of this. (Many cultural historians might have reasons for deep scepticism of invasion by a bunch of quantitative data nerds, I suspect, and might be able to articulate why quite well.) It's bullet points, not an essay. I tried asking it for a 1000 word essay specifically and got:
https://chatgpt.com/share/689e5545-0688-8010-8bdf-632d3c3466...
which seems only superficially different - an essay in form, but secretly a bunch of bullet points.
For a comparison, here's a Guardian article that came up when I googled for "cultural historians ice cores":
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/feb/20/solar-storms...
It seems to do a good job at explaining why they should, though not in a deep essayistic style.
SamBam•2h ago
> ‘Oh, do let me go on,’ said Wilde, ‘I want to see how it ends.’
Pretty great line.