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VHS-C: when a lazy idea stumbles towards perfection [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYWHeBhYbM
72•surprisetalk•3d ago

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dvh•5h ago
He should make "shorts" of his own videos that are 8 minutes long.
haunter•4h ago
This is my main problem with the modern Youtube meta, every single "serious" topic video is +30 mins length. 10 years ago we were perfectly fine with 10 mins stuff but of course algorithms and advertising and nowadays most Youtuber is pushing longer and longer videos as if we are watching peak evening television reporting...
robertlagrant•4h ago
Evening television reporting spends about 30s on any one topic, so much so that the dominant effect on the viewer is however the presenter framed the topic initially. This is nothing like that.
hdgvhicv•2h ago
Typical package in the U.K. is about 3 minutes, the main story will have 10-15 minutes on it, with probably two pieces from different correspondents on different angles, an in studio interview, and a live.

There’s then the in depth programs which spend half an hour or an hour on a specific subject (dispatches, panorama etc)

People are less interested in long form news though, so public service broadcasters in the U.K. have a duty to reach as many people in as many ways.

Sesse__•3h ago
There's a perfectly good format for long-form dives: An article. But no, everything needs to be a video because otherwise, how would anyone bother to consume it.
TylerE•3h ago
No, for the kind of content he produces video is absolutely essential, since much of it is either demonstrating audio and video playback (including things like artifacts and color distortions), and showing how the internal mechanisms operate on partially disassembled machines.
rs186•11m ago
His videos have so much higher information density than texts can offer. Videos are just much more efficient and can explain things better for those topics.
kalleboo•1h ago
Some creators still do 10 minute videos but whenever I watch one I feel I'm left with more questions than answers, I really prefer the deeper dives.
fishgoesblub•12m ago
And people click on the those videos, and YouTube recommends them because people like them.
dagurp•3h ago
Why?
rs186•12m ago
Please no.

His videos are long but every minute is worth it.

Let someone else make watered down videos that appear to cover everything but don't actually explain anything.

lewdwig•5h ago
I have such a huge nerd crush on this guy. Witnessing the incredible skill of making even the most humble and obsolete of technologies seem like an absolute pinnacle of human ingenuity is always a pleasure.
Finnucane•16m ago
Because at the time it may have been the pinnacle of ingenuity. Engineers had to figure out a new thing, or a way to do a thing in certain constraints, with what they had on hand, and had to be clever about it.
pjerem•10m ago
I actually think that "old tech" is pinnacle of human ingenuity.

When you see the inside of a camcorder, or a VCR as per his latest videos, those were object humans had to design not only for aesthetics but also for their function.

I'm not sure I'm clear but now, I feel like everything is just a randomly designed box stuffed with circuit boards. And more importantly, I really frequently feel like most objects I buy today are never tested by real people before being sent to production lines. If it was the case, somebody, somewhere would have noticed that a tactile snooze button alongside the buttons to change the hour on an alarm clock is stupid, or that the screen is too bright for you to sleep.

When objects were a complex arrangement of things that moved smartly together to create a function, the people designing had to test them. They also had to think actively about ergonomics because there were real constraints to solve in creating a camcorder that you can use with only one hand so you'd better place the buttons in an ergonomic place.

jorl17•4h ago
Alec is probably my favorite YouTuber. I remember catching his videos before he really blew up and they ticked all my nerd boxes! Unlike other youtubers I enjoy, I never seem to get tired of his content — keep going!
FirmwareBurner•4h ago
I can also recommend:

  VWestlife
  This Does Not Compute
  Michael MJD
  Tech Tangents
  Janus Cycle
  LGR
  Posy
  Cathode Ray Dude
drooopy•2h ago
It's a shame that Druaga1 stopped posting on YouTube because he should be on that list.
Gracana•2h ago
CelGenStudios and Usagi Electric are good channels for vintage computing stuff.
encom•1h ago
Posy seconded. He's weird (and I'm certain he would agree), but in a fun and interesting way. The music used in his videos is composed and recorded by himself, btw.

A recommendation of mine is Bad Obsession Motorsport. Two men in a shed put a Celica engine in an Austin Mini. So far it's taken 12 years and 41 episodes. Some astonishing engineering going there.

If you're into cars, I'll also recommend "driving 4 answers". Very well researched and presented videos about engine technology.

FirmwareBurner•21m ago
>He's weird

He's just Dutch :)

forinti•3h ago
His videos are so interesting. I went out and bought a rice cooker after watching his explanation of its mechanism.
dagurp•3h ago
Same here. I used it every day during COVID
xattt•2h ago
I don’t know his experience with academics but if the stars aligned, he would be an amazing university lecturer.
dmd•1h ago
I find his content wildly good but his voice to be so grating I can barely stand it.
jermaustin1•1h ago
Don't watch Aging Wheels then. Love both of them, but my wife complains when I watch either on the living room TV.
johnhamlin•1h ago
Same!
rs186•14m ago
His channel is a fresh breath of air on today's YouTube. No clickbait titlea/thumbnails, no exaggeration, no drama, no filler content? That's rare these days. Everything is well organized and clearly explained. His videos are often long, but every minute is valuable. His videos are like the opposite of CNET -- you learn more after watching 2 minutes of Technology Connection compared to 20 minutes of CNET.
betamaxc-•2h ago
It upsets me that so much video was recorded on tapes instead of film, because it didn’t wear well and looks awful today. The only hope we have now are approximations using AI.

Think of all of the 80s TV shows and movies we’d be streaming today if the quality weren’t so poor.

Uvix•2h ago
Very few movies were shot on tape, and those that were did it deliberately for the effect of looking awful (Blair Witch Project).

For TV shows made in the US, they were still generally recorded on film, but then editing on tape became common in the late 80s. (In the UK, recording on tape was a lot more common. Not sure about other countries.) If there was enough interest in the show (and the company hadn’t destroyed the film), it would be possible to go back and reconstruct the show from the filmed footage. Unfortunately, I only know of one case where that happened, and reportedly disc sales weren’t enough to turn a profit.

fredoralive•2h ago
Film can definitely wear badly, like there’s some 1970s colour stock that just fades into nothingness.

80s movies would be near universally film, mostly 35mm.

TV is complicated, US network TV would also be film (again, mostly 35mm), but the mid 1980s saw the start of a transition to doing editing and other post production on SD videotape, a situation that lasted until the late 90s / early 2000s and HDTV becoming common. You can go back and redo post from the raw film, like Star Trek TNG, but that takes a lot of effort so only big shows have had it done. Other places like the UK often used SD video for more things barring “prestige” shows (and even then they tended to 16mm) so those will be stuck in SD.

phire•1h ago
The end result of a modern film "transfers" looks so good that people massively the amount of effort that went into the restoration.

The color has always faded. They have to color-grade it back to what they think it originally looked like, though it's more common to use artistic license what they it was originally intended to look like. Artistic interpretation always leaks in, and it will never match what someone saw in the theatre (and there was massive variation between prints even when they were brand new).

At least with TV shows like TNG, we have the tapes to use as a reasonably solid reference for what color was actually broadcast.

And then there is scratch and dust removal. They do so much in-painting to get the clean result that we associate with 35mm film today.

kalleboo•1h ago
In the UK, indoors studio shots were on video, but outdoors location shots had to be on film, so there was an obvious difference in look when they cut between them.

Monty Python lampooned this in a sketch where Graham Chapman goes outside, exclaims "Good Lord, I'm on film!" and then flees indoors to the safety of video

taped•1h ago
> 80s movies would be near universally film

Major movies, yes. But a lot of B films were on tape, and most of the distribution of movies in the early 80s was tape, so as companies went out of business, what was left was tape.

I’m over 50 y.o., but I remember movies from Blockbuster that I can’t find now because they were minor and only distributed on VHS tapes which were dumped over the years. I can find just about anything that was on film.

crtasm•2m ago
What are a couple that you'd like to find?
derric2•1h ago
Just need to take over the TV station:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2efhrCxI4J0

mapontosevenths•6m ago
Of course tape isn't the best, but you can actually squeeze more out of tape than you might expect.

One of my latest nerd rabbit holes has been using the Domesday Duplicator, and now the MISRC, to extract higher quality video from old VHS, VHS-C, and 8mm video. Thanks to the vhsdecode project you can now bypass most of the original hardware and use software to reconstruct the video from the raw RF. It's expensive, computationally, but with a proper RF extraction you can now capture better video than the the original hardware ever could.

I haven't tried it yet, but I hear that with dirty tricks like "stacking" multiple passes, or even captures from multiple tapes, you can further enhance it.

tudorizer•2h ago
This video nerd-sniped me so hard. All these mechanics put a smile on my face.
imglorp•2h ago
Memory unlocked. Around 1980, our local, government mandated, public access program for cable TV would loan out the first over-the-shoulder camera he showed, along with the sorta-portable battery VHS recording rig. White balance was always a challenge with those. AV nerds could go out and tape random events that nobody would watch but it kept us off the street.
kqr2•1h ago
Every time I hear about VHS I like to bring up Marion Stokes : https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/marion-stokes-televisi...
reaperducer•27m ago
It's so sad how back when Sony was an electronics company, it fought the content makers in court for the right for people to make recordings.

Then Sony became a content company, and stopped making things to allow people to make recordings.

With advances in technology, I should be able to pop an SD card in my TV and record what I see, then bring it over to a friend's house and pop it into his TV so we can watch together.

The future has been monetized.

jihadjihad•11m ago
I remember as a kid we had a whole bookcase of those small cassettes for the family camcorder. I always loved getting to put the tiny one into the full-sized VHS, felt like magic that it actually worked when you popped it into the VCR.

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