Good thing he saved the $10.
https://www.hp.com/us-en/printers/instant-ink.html#section=e...
At some point surely everyone involved can see it’s just silly
Put yourself in a prison bureaucrat's shoes. There is no upside to changing the rules, easier legal work or whatever for the inmates doesn't affect them (hell, it might even cause more work). But if they do change the rules and something bad happens (like, shock horror, somebody smuggling in a picture of a naked lady), it's their ass on the line for approving it.
Why does the parent get downvoted?
Thus, fixing this is not a priority to them, if anything they want it to stay this way.
I agree nevertheless that inflicting maximum misery and pain on prisoners is popular with a substantial segment of the US electorate, and thus there are negative incentives discouraging even simple fixes like the technology changes wished for in this article.
It's easy to say someone who stole a loaf of bread should be rehabilitated, but when asked about a one-off rapist people will show their true beliefs.
Nothing to do with the rehabilitative prison time.
It’s like conducting a “push poll” using such an emotionally freighted and skewed framing — you’re obviously looking for the answer “nobody supports rehabilitative justice” by emphasizing “BUT WHAT ABOUT RAPISTS”.
This would be an example of not supporting rehabilitative justice, as there's no reason to believe this other than emotional reasoning. As a matter of fact, the evidence suggests the contrary - recitivism rates are _lower_ for rape and sexual assault than most other types of crime, including theft: https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsorsp9yfu0514.pdf
> you’re obviously looking for the answer “nobody supports rehabilitative justice”
I never said nobody or anything close to it, that's a straw man you've made up in your head. Obviously, some people truly do support rehabilitative justice, but I believe they are in the minority.
Why don't we just change the rules?
That sounds scary, but ask yourself: Who is the debt owed to? Is it to Galactus, Eater of Worlds, who will repossess our planet if we fail to pay? No, debt is mostly owed to people who have their own debts. Follow the flows (instead of summing it up) and it starts canceling out.
Imagine three people marooned on an island: They could find a shiny rock and loan it in a circle until "Total Island Debt" is a $200t.
A close friend of mine taught physics and programming in San Quentin and for the most part his students couldn't use even a restricted variant of the internet. He told me guards would complain that he was "making criminals smarter".
He ended up hosting a local copy of Wikipedia for student use, but to make the prison staff happy he had to remove any controversial articles from it, like "lockpicking" and any article with explicit imagery.
There’s no incentive to fix the broken system(s).
[0] https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/private-prisons-in...
Actually your comment is probably more correct - adds a whole step to move the wallet. Misaligned incentives and mismanagement are probably more equal across public/private than we like to believe
It's just unfortunate that's how most administrators work. The traditional debate about public vs private usually focuses on different tradeoffs and incentives of the public - but if they are just paying market vendors it's greatly diminished.
And to all the vindictive sociopath losers out there who want prisons to just inflict max pain all the time - do you not realize improving prison quality of life directly benefits you and could even save your life? Brutalizing a man with harsh conditions, treating him like a wild animal for months/years on end, and then releasing him is just going to make him 5x more angry and dangerous upon release and less likely to assimilate, but now here he comes walking down the same street as you and your loved ones
> Brutalizing a man with harsh conditions, treating him like a wild animal for months/years on end, and then releasing him is just going to make him 5x more angry and dangerous upon release and less likely to assimilate, but now here he comes walking down the same street as you and your loved ones
"Maybe he should have made better choices" they say, as they smugly reference an eye for an eye in their text sent from God.
Life is really tough on the outside for a lot of prisoners. I’m extremely in favor of helping them lead successful and productive lives on the outside that don’t need to rely on crime.
Why is this an acceptable form of punishment?
How much less are they able to make positive choices for remote 'others', especially people they consider bad?
I mean, if you were in prison and had access to Wikipedia, I could edit, or put something on the talk page, that was a message to you.
You would look up the specific page, and get the message.
Laughable: maybe it's the prison food. But perhaps to be cautious we should increase the gruel and reduce the use of red meat *a la'" Oliver Twist?
The Federal system is more-or-less standardized and many have access to many things either on campus or remotely.
The State system is a hodge-podge of nonsense and most States are ran like trash for money reasons.
Techbros do illegal shit all the time
And if you read HN often, there’s plenty of fairly regular high-karma posters that have talked about prison-stints from various issues e.g. mental health, substance abusage leading to (often petty) illegal activity, and extremely illegal business escapades.
Imagine how many HNers would be at meaningful risk of arrest if we got an administration that wanted to crack down on piracy & wanted to make an example out of some otherwise successful people (you make a good salary, why are you engaging in illegal piracy activity?)
Shkreli doesn’t post afaik, but I do know he used to actively lurk. Ask him how butthole elasticity works, and if he expected to find out such things in the manner that he did.
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