When such technology becomes practical for the large telco's it will be implemented soon as this saves on attenuation equipment.
"There has not been a significant improvement in the minimum attenuation—a measure of the loss of optical power per kilometer traveled—of optical fibers in around 40 years...
"The new design maintains low losses of around 0.2 dB/km over a 66 THz bandwidth and boasts 45% faster transmission speeds...
"The new fiber is a kind of nested antiresonant nodeless hollow core fiber (DNANF) with a core of air surrounded by a meticulously engineered glass microstructure.
"The team believes that further research can reduce losses even more, possibly down to 0.01 dB/km, and also help to tune the fiber for low-loss operation at different wavelengths. Even the losses achieved, however, open up the potential for longer unamplified spans in undersea and terrestrial cables and high-power laser delivery and sensing applications, among others."
0.2 dB/km is already a pretty common loss ratio, though. It's true that you won't get that over the entire 1310–1550nm range (the ~35 THz range commonly in use), but you generally can't use all of that for long-haul links anyway due to the way repeaters work.
More interestingly, they promise 0.06 dB/km or so in the most relevant bands. If they can keep that up, it would mean less need for amplifiers, which is a Good Thing(TM).
Besides, I think most homes are not even close to using the full capability of what fibre can offer nor do a lot of people need that extra bit of speed to browse Instagram/Facebook/YouTube/Whatever else.
A hammer is not more obsolete for driving a nail because pneumatic nail guns exist.
Using just a hammer on a commercial framing job is silly, however, because pneumatic nail guns work better. Everyone still has a hammer ready though, because it is still needed.
Using a pneumatic nail gun to hang a picture is silly, because it is so overkill (and expensive) that it actively makes it harder to do the job.
This tech doesn’t obsolete existing fiber for last mile because the extra cost associated with producing and splicing it dwarfs any potential gains (which would likely be in the 10’s of ns).
If it is proven to work well, this may obsolete existing transoceanic/transcontinental fiber runs, where the latency difference will be noticeable enough the cost is worth it. However, it’s highly unlikely that anyone will actually turn down any of these existing lines. The different is not so much that the old lines are useless.
If, eventually, this new fiber is at the same price point and as easy to work with as the current fiber? then the current fiber will be obsolete.
This won’t change anything for 99% of new fiber deployments, and practically doesn’t make any difference for existing fiber deployments either. The actual media is still 100x more capable than anyone’s end termination equipment outside of a lab.
On medium and long distance runs, it will provide a lot of benefits. Reducing latency on a cross country link is palpable; reducing latency on a shorter link like LA to SF is valuable too, because some routes have many of those. Reducing the number of amplifiers needed will be apprechiated by cable operators as well, fewer points of failure, likely a lower power budget, etc.
It may obsolete existing long haul fiber. But installed fiber will still be useful even if there's better fiber that could be installed... And existing fiber will be useful for redundancy and additional capacity even if there's better fiber on the same route.
GistNoesis•5mo ago
https://spie.org/news/photonics-focus/julyaug-2022/speeding-...
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p_j_w•5mo ago
I think it’s more like in the future they might not be. It’s anyone’s guess how mass production and deployment of this might look.
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[0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S173857331...
Sesse__•5mo ago
Trans-continental is different, because you'll need amplifiers. Many, many amplifiers in a row. And those generally work well only in a fairly limited band. But unless you're doing submarine, bandwidth is almost never the problem.
To make things worse, a lot of existing medium-haul fiber links are actually twice as long as you'd expect, due to the desire to cancel out dispersion; you first run the fiber e.g. 10km from place to place, and then run it through a large 10km spool (of a slightly different type of fiber) in the datacenter to cancel out the dispersion. This is slowly going away, but only slowly.
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Hikikomori•5mo ago
Only slowly? I haven't worked with very long haul wdm systems or sonet/sdh but I've never seen this. Maybe you mean much longer distances than 10km as we've had 10G-LR for ages that don't need this.
Sesse__•5mo ago
I don't work with this myself, but my understanding is that you only start ripping this out when you are positive every wavelength from every customer actually has coherent detection, and that could take a while. :-) Obviously this will differ from site to site, too; I would assume new ones don't care unless there's a lot of legacy involved.
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lazide•5mo ago
If you had to move 100 tons of packages, which is going to be faster - a Lamborghini going 200 mph, or a tractor/trailer going 50mph?
If you’re trying to set a speed record and don’t care about bringing anything along, which is faster?
Neither meaning is necessarily wrong.
gchamonlive•5mo ago
And the time for the lambo and the tractor will depend on the round trips each will have to do, so it depends on the medium.
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crote•5mo ago
Getting data to literally the other side of the globe currently takes about 100 milliseconds. How many truly novel applications open up by that latency dropping to 66ms?
For short-distance stuff the latency is already low enough to be practically realtime. For long-distance stuff we're already fast enough for human-level applications (like video chat), but it's not dropping enough for computer-level applications (like synchronous database replication).
I'm sure some HFT traders are going to make an absolute fortune, but I doubt it'll have a huge impact for most other people.
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Almost all of them deploy their strategies within exchange colo's already
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davidmr•5mo ago
They’ve been using hollow core fiber (and funding research into it) for nearly a decade. I know it goes back further than the 2017 spinoff mentioned in the article, but https://optics.org/news/11/9/52 talks about it a bit.
dcminter•5mo ago
I've often wondered if for HFT or similar it might be worth pointing a particle accelerator at the floor and going for direct-line transit times. I'm fairly sure that this is theoretically possible, but no idea if the engineering challenge is beyond reach for use as a communication link.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPERA_experiment
estimator7292•5mo ago
Problem is you'd drop more packets than IP over pigeons.
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lucyjojo•5mo ago
then you have online video games. increasing the area where you can get good connections increase quadratically (or more, if we hit step function = big city get in range) the viability of niche multiplayer video games and it is thus a boost to creativity.
there are probably many more niches... (need to think of reachable area, quadratic, instead of 1-to-1 link linear)
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