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Shai-Hulud malware attack: Tinycolor and over 40 NPM packages compromised

https://www.stepsecurity.io/blog/ctrl-tinycolor-and-40-npm-packages-compromised
683•jamesberthoty•9h ago•513 comments

How to make the Framework Desktop run even quieter

https://noctua.at/en/how-to-make-the-framework-desktop-run-even-quieter
98•lwhsiao•2h ago•15 comments

Things you can do with a Software Defined Radio (2024)

https://blinry.org/50-things-with-sdr/
474•mihau•6h ago•96 comments

Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/denmark-close-wiping-out-leading-cancer-causing-hpv-strains-aft...
239•slu•3h ago•100 comments

Waymo has received our pilot permit allowing for commercial operations at SFO

https://waymo.com/blog/#short-all-systems-go-at-sfo-waymo-has-received-our-pilot-permit
463•ChrisArchitect•4h ago•393 comments

Meta RayBan AR Glasses Shows Lumus Waveguide Structures in Leaked Video

https://kguttag.com/2025/09/16/meta-rayban-ar-glasses-shows-lumus-waveguide-structures-in-leaked-...
50•speckx•2h ago•27 comments

In Defense of C++

https://dayvster.com/blog/in-defense-of-cpp/
30•todsacerdoti•1h ago•5 comments

How Container Filesystem Works: Building a Docker-Like Container from Scratch

https://labs.iximiuz.com/tutorials/container-filesystem-from-scratch
53•lgunsch•3d ago•7 comments

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_9w_c2ub0
98•Timothee•1d ago•22 comments

A Dumb Introduction to z3 using Rust

https://asibahi.github.io/thoughts/a-gentle-introduction-to-z3/
16•kfl•1d ago•0 comments

Wind turbine blade transportation challenges

https://spectrum.ieee.org/wind-turbine-blade-transport-plane
53•Brajeshwar•3d ago•53 comments

Bertrand Russell to Oswald Mosley (1962)

https://lettersofnote.com/2016/02/02/every-ounce-of-my-energy/
149•giraffe_lady•4h ago•71 comments

Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/un-concludes-israel-guilty-genocide-gaza
339•Qem•12h ago•127 comments

Plugin System

https://iina.io/plugins/
108•xnhbx•5h ago•27 comments

A new experimental Google app for Windows

https://blog.google/products/search/google-app-windows-labs/
89•meetpateltech•6h ago•141 comments

Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google email and auth sync

https://bewildered.substack.com/p/i-was-scammed-out-of-130000-and-google
174•davidscoville•4h ago•325 comments

Should We Drain the Everglades?

https://rabbitcavern.substack.com/p/should-we-drain-the-everglades
24•ksymph•1h ago•14 comments

Launch HN: Rowboat (YC S24) – Open-source IDE for multi-agent systems

https://github.com/rowboatlabs/rowboat
38•segmenta•4h ago•20 comments

The Linux Process Journey (2023) [pdf]

https://thelearningjourneyebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/TheLinuxProcessJourney_v6_Sep2023...
32•maxmoehl•3h ago•1 comments

CIA Freedom of Information Act Electronic Reading Room

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom
131•bookofjoe•8h ago•27 comments

UTF-8 history (2003)

https://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utf-8_history
73•mikecarlton•3d ago•26 comments

When the job search becomes impossible

https://www.jeffwofford.com/wp/?p=2240
78•pertinhower•7h ago•92 comments

Writing an operating system kernel from scratch – RISC-V/OpenSBI/Zig

https://popovicu.com/posts/writing-an-operating-system-kernel-from-scratch/
68•popovicu•2d ago•3 comments

Implicit ODE solvers are not universally more robust than explicit ODE solvers

https://www.stochasticlifestyle.com/implicit-ode-solvers-are-not-universally-more-robust-than-exp...
84•cbolton•7h ago•26 comments

Paper Folding Assembly Line [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUuhl9iWpQ
40•peteforde•1w ago•7 comments

Adios Chicos, 25 Years of KDE

https://jriddell.org/2025/09/14/adios-chicos-25-years-of-kde/
132•thangqt•2h ago•37 comments

Development of the MOS Technology 6502: A Historical Perspective (2022)

https://www.EmbeddedRelated.com/showarticle/1453.php
45•jason_s•6h ago•8 comments

60 years after Gemini, newly processed images reveal details

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/09/60-years-after-gemini-newly-processed-images-reveal-incredi...
238•sohkamyung•3d ago•68 comments

Generative AI as Seniority-Biased Technological Change

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5425555
190•zeuch•7h ago•165 comments

Show HN: AI Code Detector – detect AI-generated code with 95% accuracy

https://code-detector.ai/
65•henryl•2h ago•52 comments
Open in hackernews

Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/denmark-close-wiping-out-leading-cancer-causing-hpv-strains-after-vaccine-roll-out
234•slu•3h ago

Comments

inglor_cz•1h ago
Good news.

Bad news is that many countries came close to wiping out measles et al. too, but it takes sustained effort to keep things like that.

giantg2•1h ago
Unlike the measles, HPV is not a good eradication candidate due to the existence of non-human reservoirs.
AnimalMuppet•1h ago
I think you said that backwards. HPV does not have non-human reservoirs, per Wikipedia. (Do you have evidence that it's wrong?)
giantg2•1h ago
Ah, looks like I might have read the paper wrong. It's theorized that some HPV strains could also be carried by non-human primates.
russdill•1h ago
Hence the "H"
serial_dev•35m ago
Although you are (as I understand) right, the question itself is valid, lots of diseases spread to species other than the one that is in the name… Chickenpox, monkeypox, swine flu, or even the Spanish flu.
chris_wot•1h ago
Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.
inglor_cz•1h ago
This is now a global problem. The guy who started it, Andrew Wakefield, is British, and we have long had antivaxxers in Europe too.

Prior to Covid, the antivaxx scene was vaguely left-and-green oriented, biomoms, vegans and other "very natural" people; you would expect them to vote for Greens or even more alternative parties. This changed abruptly and now the antivaxx scene is mostly rightwing, but the common base is still the same distrust.

I wonder if this is the price we pay for radical informational transparency. Nowadays, democratic countries with reasonable freedom of press cannot really prevent their own fuckups from surfacing in the worst possible way. Some people react by complete rejection of anything that comes from "official" channels and become ripe for manipulation from other actors.

squigz•1h ago
> I wonder if this is the price we pay for radical informational transparency. Nowadays, democratic countries with reasonable freedom of press cannot really prevent their own fuckups from surfacing in the worst possible way. Some people react by complete rejection of anything that comes from "official" channels and become ripe for manipulation from other actors.

Such people have always existed, unfortunately. I don't think it's a result of anything particularly new.

inglor_cz•1h ago
The people existed, but a portable always-running conveyor belt of bad news that is addictive enough to make them glued to the screen did not.

In the 1990s, you had maybe 15 minutes a day on average to consume news, either from a paper newspaper, or from an evening TV relation. Now, quite a lot of people spend 20 times as much time doomscrolling. Of course the impact will be much more massive.

squigz•1h ago
Sure, but this implies the only source of "manipulation from other actors" is the news, media, or government. Churches, cults, and just other ignorant people existed to cause distrust in authority.
macintux•1h ago
Those organizations didn't have instantaneous global reach. Now everyone does.
squigz•56m ago
I'm not denying that there's a difference - obviously technology has enabled the scale of things to grow quite a bit, both good and bad - but it's beside my point, which is that, given that it's not a new phenomenon, blaming it on technology seems doomed to failure. Without solving for the underlying issues, people will continue to mistrust authority, whether they're being told to by news or their neighbor.
brewdad•20m ago
People have had a mistrust in authority as far back as when nomadic tribes were the norm but somebody had to decide where to hunt or gather that day or to move on. Good luck changing human nature.
bbarnett•7m ago
That's a little like saying nuclear bombs aren't a technology, but a human problem. And you bet, they sure are, but it's a lot harder to wipe out everyone, if the nutjobs in your community just have a pointed stick.

And 'nutjobs' may be pejorative, but I'll hold on to it as apt. At the same time I assign no blame, for it is an issue of cognition. The best way I can describe it is, intelligence is not a single factor. And it's not even a few factors. It's a massive bar graph, with 1000s upon 1000s of bars, each delineating a different aspect of intelligence.

A lucky few may score high on all those bars, yet even the most intelligent of us tend to score high on only some of those bars. And my point is, I've seen people immensely intelligent on some of those bars, yet astonishingly deficient on others.

We love to make fun of politicians, so I'll use one as an example here. Politicians tend to be incredibly personable, and very difficult to dislike in person. They exude congeniality, they read you like a book, and can often orate your wallet completely out of your pocket, and you'll thank them for it too. It's how they managed to go so far politically, yet some of these same politicians have severe and massive deficiencies in cognition.

Back to the pointed sticks, and the nutjobs who would wield them pre-tech, these people are simply as they are. Yet in the past, you'd see one nutjob in a community, and they'd be surrounded by normalcy, it would temper them, mitigate their effect, sand off their edges so to speak.

Yet as our communities grew in size and scope, these individuals could finally meet more of their ilk. A large city might have dozens of them, larger still cities hundreds, and they'd meet up. And as technology grew, and access to the printing press become possible for all, and for less and less cost, these same people could then send their madness in newsletter form to even those small communities where maybe only one nutjob existed.

But those people needed to still connect in some way. Maybe through an ad in the back of a magazine, or something akin yet far less gated by 'normals'.

Yet today? Now? Algorithms match you up with all those nutjobs. Where before you might live in isolation, and the friends you had might scoff at that weird idea you have, now you've found a community of hundreds, or thousands just like you! And they all affirm your madness, they pat you on the back, they congratulate you for seeing the light! They whisper all those sweet nothings into your ear, all those secret things you knew were true, and they listen to all you say on the subject.

For the first time in your life you have a home, a community, and before TikTok, or some weird forum, it would have never all been possible. You'd have been isolated, even in the age of magazines, and print, for you'd have never found one another.

And worse, now profit enters the system. Those who would steal, or thieve, or build bridges with sub-standard concrete for profit, or anything for money regardless of cost to us all, appear on this scene. They see those nutjobs, and they seek to profit from them. They own youtube, or tiktok channels, and often do not believe in anything but profit. They'll tell you anything you want to hear, espouse any crazy idea, and like that bridge built with substandard concrete, they'll take the money and run as society collapses around them.

This profit motive was always there, see cults. Yet the reach and scope was just not what it is today, there is so much more range given to a single person now.

brewdad•23m ago
Chatty Kathy could only share her moonbat ideas with a couple people at a time. Now she has a TikTok and the ability to go viral. Even folks sharing her video to mock it are spreading her message.
SoftTalker•30m ago
Back then we had the National Enquirer and Weekly World News and similar for all the obscure conspiracy news you wanted.
inglor_cz•16m ago
I think that the social media is much more capable of turning various fence sitters and borderline cases into full blown conspiracy believers.

Unlike the paper products, which just lie around when not actively seeked for, the algorithms determining your feed have a lot more agency.

_moof•1h ago
And even before the antivax nutters here went from fringe to a significant social force, HPV vaccines were already being decried for "promoting casual sex." Our culture is so broken in so many ways.
Fomite•1h ago
"Why haven't you cured cancer yet?"

"We have a vaccine to prevent some very serious cancers."

"But it might turn my daughter into a hussy."

Spivak•45m ago
Of course, I for sure held off on having casual unprotected sex with multiple partners as a teenager because I was worried about contracting HPV, but thanks to Gardasil my slut era was legendary and enduring.
Fomite•41m ago
Teenagers are notorious for making decisions based on consequences that are decades away from manifesting.
tialaramex•39m ago
Also, forget "She might die of cancer" just exactly how bad is it if your daughter is a whore ? What else are we ruling out, independent business owner, politician ?

What happened to "I just want my children to be happy" ?

Fomite•37m ago
I always thought "Cervical cancer is a just punishment for my daughter's mistakes" (leaving aside if it is a mistake) was horrific.
skdhhdj•53m ago
> Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK

The more likely explanation is the massive amounts of immigration from 3rd world countries. But yes, he’s not helping any.

tchalla•43m ago
Sorry, can you explain how this relates to immigration?
Fomite•34m ago
Especially ironic given how hard a number of South American countries are having eliminating the MMR diseases due to import cases from Europe and the U.S.
JumpCrisscross•19m ago
Maybe we’re seeing selection pressure against those prone to addictive cycles of social-media influenced misinformation?

Like, anti-vaxers died at higher rates in Covid [1]. This will continue across disease outbreaks, particularly ones for which we have near-comprehensive vaccines like measles. And given antivax sensibility is heritable (through parenting, not genes), one would expect this to stabilize the population over several generations to one that doesn’t have this defect.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10123459/

blindriver•1h ago
The goal wasn't to eliminate the HPV strains, it was to decrease cervical cancer. Has Denmark encountered a drop in cervical cancer? If so, that's a great outcome!
sjsdaiuasgdia•1h ago
This seems to have some data that suggests they have seen a decline: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ijc.35081

There's a chart about 2/3 down the page that shows a drop in several age groups, and a particularly striking drop in the 20-29 age group: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/fd3e820c-4610-4c4e...

justin66•1h ago
> The goal wasn't to eliminate the HPV strains

Those monsters. Don't they know those viruses have a right to live?

JumpCrisscross•28m ago
> it was to decrease cervical cancer

HPV can cause cancers in the cervix, vulva, vagina, penis, anus and back of the throat [1].

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/about/cancers-caused-by-hpv.html

YeahThisIsMe•1h ago
And I can't get the shot in Germany because I'm "too old" and just assumed to be infected with it already, anyway.

What a great system.

n1b0m•1h ago
Can you pay for it?
bartman•1h ago
Generally yes. I asked my primary care physician and would have been able to get the vaccine dose from the pharmacy (paying for it myself) and she would have administered it.
riggsdk•1h ago
In Denmark you can. I was in my mid thirties when I went to my doctor to ask them to prescribe it. Before each shot I would go to the pharmacy and buy one dose and go to the doctor to have them administer it for me (if I wanted to). At that time I think it was free for teenage girls, now it's free for teenage boys as well.
Fomite•1h ago
The evolution of who gets HPV vaccines is really interesting. At first it was young women, as vaccinating young men had a very marginal decrease in cervical cancer rates via indirect protection (which itself is a function of how many young women are vaccinated). Then as HPV infection was linked to more cancers, vaccinating young men crossed the cost-effectiveness thresholds many governments use.

Vaccinating older populations is similarly just a less clear-cut case, but it's a cost-effectiveness argument, not one purely driven by if the vaccine offers protection.

everdrive•1h ago
Does the vaccine benefit you if you've already been infected?
giantg2•1h ago
I've heard of it being administered post exposure as a way to help the body fight the existing infection. Seemed a little odd when I first heard it as HPV should clear on it's own.
Fomite•1h ago
The key is you want it to clear as quickly as possible.
abirch•1h ago
There are multiple strains of HPV and most people haven't been infected with all of the strains.

from https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/by_th...

tialaramex•1h ago
In a sense no, hence the choice to vaccinate younger children who will mostly not be sexually active yet.

But because the modern versions of these vaccines cover many strains (initial vaccines were two, Denmark chose a 4 way vaccine, now a nine way) it's very possible that you get a meaningful benefit by being protected from say six strains your body has never seen, even though the three it has already seen wouldn't be prevented.

Fomite•1h ago
It should be noted that the decision to vaccinate younger children is a combination of disease prevention and cost, not just vaccine effectiveness.
Fomite•1h ago
Potentially, yes. HPV infections are cleared over time, and there are many strains of HPV.
everdrive•34m ago
That's really interesting, and from that I would assume that the risk of cervical (or other cancers) from HPV is associated with how often someone is reinfected? ie, someone who got HPV once in college doesn't have HPV their whole life? And potentially has a lower cancer risk than someone who is repeatedly re-infected?

Am I understanding that correctly?

Fomite•29m ago
> someone who got HPV once in college doesn't have HPV their whole life?

Doesn't necessarily have HPV their whole life - time-to-clearance is somewhat variable.

And yes, both slower clearance and just more infections are both associated with increased risk.

pitpatagain•7m ago
https://www.hpvworld.com/articles/the-frequency-of-hpv-infec...

It's incredibly prevalent, but most people clear it within a couple years, and won't even know that they had it. The time to clear it is just variable and depends on your body's immune response, the longer you go without clearing it the higher the cancer risk.

NooneAtAll3•1h ago
Cervical cancer (uterus), not skin cancer from a bad papillomas as I thought after looking up what HPV meant
mitb6•1h ago
Also throat, mouth, tongue, anal and penile cancers.
tialaramex•55m ago
It turns out a human body has a lot of surfaces facing the "outside" in some sense and we forget about the parts we can't see. Most of this surface is not covered in what we'd conventionally consider skin. It's bit like if you were looking at surfaces in a house and forgot the walls and ceiling.
Fomite•35m ago
Humans (and most animals) are just tubes with extra bits.
pm90•1h ago
If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.
justin66•1h ago
> It consists of just 2 doses.

Wasn't it 3 doses before?

pm90•1h ago
you're right its 3, updated message
abeppu•1h ago
... did you finish the series? I think for adults it should be 3 doses. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/administration.html
comrade1234•1h ago
Any way to test for previous exposure? I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't already have antibodies. I suppose it doesn't matter though.
Obscurity4340•1h ago
Not sure but theres zero downside to getting it
tonfa•1h ago
Note that the modern vaccine covers 9 different strains.
toomuchtodo•1h ago
HPV tests are of low value (as an adult, if ever sexually active, you likely have it but can do nothing about it); a new biomarker test that can detect the cancers is being developed [1]. Ongoing cancer surveillance is all you can do once exposed without having been vaccinated (and if cancer occurs, immunotherapy).

As pm90 wrote, I strongly recommend getting vaccinated [2] unless a doctor tells you otherwise, even if you already have HPV or have had previous potential exposure.

[1] Circulating tumor human papillomavirus DNA whole genome sequencing enables human papillomavirus-associated oropharynx cancer early detection - https://academic.oup.com/jnci/advance-article-abstract/doi/1... | https://doi.org/10.1093/jnci/djaf249

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine

(had three doses in my 30s via Planned Parenthood)

Insanity•52m ago
Doctor recommended it to me when I was almost 30. So yeah, I'd say still go for it.
rtaylorgarlock•1h ago
And note i believe they just increased the recommended age of administration up to ~40yo? Throat cancer sucks. Get the vax.
sillyfluke•58m ago
Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax, wasn't the famous posterchild for this disease Michael Douglas?
JumpCrisscross•56m ago
> Why is there an age limit on an all encompassing vax

Vaccines are subject to stringent safety standards since they’re administered to healthy people. The age limit may suggest that at the time of the recommendation, in the relevant jurisdiction, the manufacturer had not studied its safety and efficacy in >40 year olds.

(I also don’t think it’s an age limit as much as the upper end of a recommendation.)

JohnTHaller•54m ago
It's likely that they haven't tested it as thoroughly in older folks and that most older folks have already been exposed to HPV.
ZeroGravitas•52m ago
This is mostly guesswork but I think you need to get the vaccine before you catch it and lots of people have it as they get older.

If you have a limited supply the greater bang per buck would be to start with the young people who almost certainly haven't caught it yet and then work your way up.

Fomite•36m ago
To be blunt: Cost-effectiveness.
slaw•1h ago
If you live outside of the US, you should get vaccine too. Even one dose is effective.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/ivac/the-power-of-a-single-dose...

rogerrogerr•51m ago
If you’re not sexually active, is it still worth doing?
hedora•50m ago
Yes.
CGMthrowaway•44m ago
Why?
yladiz•40m ago
Unless you're never sexually active (meaning, you eventually do have sex), it's worthwhile getting since there is a risk to yourself if you get infected.
vhcr•37m ago
Rape, you might become sexually active in the future, and although sexual transmission is the most common way, there are some other ways to get infected.
bdangubic•35m ago
rape
agons•17m ago
Huh.
Fomite•37m ago
If you ever intend to be, yes.
toomuchtodo•32m ago
Life is long and unpredictable, while the cost is very low.
pitpatagain•27m ago
The protection from the vaccines lasts (probably) a lifetime, and HPV is quite widespread because it is: very easily communicable, and infections linger for potentially long periods of time without any obvious symptoms

Something like 80% of people are sexually active at all will be infected with HPV at some point. You may not have been sexually active, but your future partners may have been. I personally have a friend who went through stage 4 cancer contracted from her (now ex) husband.

So, of course not literally everyone needs to take it, assess your own risks, but it's quite an easy, highly effective vaccine: don't overthink it.

JumpCrisscross•26m ago
Yes.

“The route of HPV transmission is primarily through skin-to-skin or skin-to-mucosa contact. Sexual transmission is the most documented, but there have been studies suggesting non-sexual courses.

The horizontal transfer of HPV includes fomites, fingers, and mouth, skin contact (other than sexual). Self-inoculation is described in studies as a potential HPV transmission route, as it was certified in female virgins, and in children with genital warts (low-risk HPV) without a personal history of sexual abuse. Vertical transmission from mother to child is another HPV transfer course” [1].

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7579832/

Modified3019•11m ago
Yes. While direct genital contact is the highest probability way to spread it, any skin-skin, skin-mucosa, skin-object-skin contact can potentially spread it. Consider how much you trust others to wash their hands after using the restroom. Low probability, but possible.

You’ve got a low probability of getting polio, but there’s no reason not to be vaccinated if you can.

Even if you already have a strain, there are multiple types. In fact, people who got a vaccine early on, should consider an updated shot for more complete protection.

hedora•51m ago
I went to my local megacorp pharmacy out here in California, and asked about the COVID vaccine that’s no longer recommended by our anti-vaxxer overlords.

Apparently, it’s about as easy to get as an old-school medical marijuana card.

Results vary by state though. No need to travel to Canada or Mexico (yet).

arcticbull•40m ago
Kaiser is continuing to cover it for everyone.
perihelions•1h ago
By way of contrast, America's current top "doctor" organized a class-action lawsuit against the HPV vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... ("Kennedy played key role in Gardasil vaccine case against Merck")

> "Details of the Gardasil litigation show how Kennedy took action beyond sowing doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines in the court of public opinion and helped build a case against the pharmaceutical industry before judges and juries."

> "Kennedy, a longtime plaintiffs' lawyer, became involved in the Gardasil litigation in 2018 in collaboration with Robert Krakow, an attorney specializing in vaccine injury cases, Krakow said"

etchalon•1h ago
We have the first leaders.
api•36m ago
It's okay, he'll have us treat cervical cancer with a juice cleanse and vibes.
unethical_ban•34m ago
I remember this being a big controversy in Texas in the 2000s. Our Republican governor, forcing girls to get the vaccine! What does he think Texan girls are, lusty?

Not like disease prevention is a universally good thing and some people tend to have sex.

At the end of the day, religious radicals like STDs because it enforces their worldview that having multiple sexual partners in a lifetime is a sin.

boxerab•36m ago
key quote here

"Despite this good news, roughly one third of women screened during the study period still had infection with high-risk HPV types not covered by the original vaccines – and new infections with these types were more frequent among vaccinated women, compared to unvaccinated ones."

Not to mention the unavoidable side effects that every injection causes.

Is there a net positive benefit to this shot, other than to GAVI and the manufacturer's bottom line ? Nobody knows.

vhcr•31m ago
> Is there a net positive benefit to this shot?

Yes

https://ourworldindata.org/hpv-vaccination-world-can-elimina...

boxerab•27m ago
Doesn't answer the question. Other vaccines, for example DTP, have been shown to cause higher long term mortality rate over those who didn't get it.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/2/3/e000707

JumpCrisscross•23m ago
> Other vaccines, for example DTP, have been shown to cause higher long term mortality rate

Sure. This one hasn’t.

That said, I frankly think people should be free to vaccinate as they please, and cities, states and private businesses free to include and exclude folks based on vaccination status as they please. (I’m also in favor of letting insurance companies choose if they want to cover diseases someone chose to get by going unvaccinated.)