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OrangePi 5 Ultra Review: An ARM64 SBC Powerhouse

https://boilingsteam.com/orange-pi-5-ultra-review/
47•ekianjo•2h ago

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Ecco•1h ago
I looked it up rapidly and couldn't figure out the difference with the original OrangePi 5.

By the way, the OrangePi 5 is a pretty good SBC. Much better bang/bucks than RPi, and the mainline kernel support is pretty good and getting better with every release thanks to the folks at Collabora.

https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-35...

amluto•1h ago
I give OrangePi a lot of points for putting an M.2 slot on the bottom of the PCB. Not only does Raspberry Pi charge extra for their M.2 board, it sits in an obnoxious location above the board where it interferes with many other things one might want to put on top, e.g. any sort of passive cooling.
phoronixrly•1h ago
A non-Broadcom SoC and actually fast network? Absolutely better than any Raspberry Pi
rjsw•1h ago
The built-in ethernet controller would be fine, not sure why it needs to use up some PCIe lanes on an external one.
rjsw•1h ago
> I looked it up rapidly and couldn't figure out the difference with the original OrangePi 5.

RK3588S -> RK3588, LPDDR4 -> LPDDR5

Havoc•42m ago
There is also one in between - the plus. Rk3588 but ddr4
Ecco•37m ago
Thanks. Does it make a big difference in practice?
timw4mail•56m ago
Assuming you can get software support for more than one version of 'blessed' distro.
Ecco•38m ago
Well, that’s my point exactly: mainline kernel is what all distros eventually use.

As a matter of fact I’m currently running an OrangePi 5 as a server using an unmodified Debian Trixie and hardware support is nearly perfect.

rixed•30m ago
Could you be more specific about what's not perfect yet with the hardware support?
packetlost•30m ago
I have a cluster of 3 of the Orange Pi 5 Pros. They're extremely capable machines if you don't need the GPU or NPU (which I don't). That being said, they're more expensive, louder, and less energy efficient than like an Intel N100 mini PC.
yardie•1h ago
> the Ubuntu 24.04 distro is missing from the list, and this is a shame, since this is a board released late 2024. I contacted OrangePi and they mentioned that they would eventually release a 24.04 version, but there was no clear timeline for that.

Pretty much that is where most of these SBCs fall off my list. Without an active OS development its only 1/2 of the puzzle.

joz1-k•39m ago
> * Without an active OS development its only 1/2 of the puzzle.*

And this is an unfortunate state of the general purpose ARM64 computing. This board, with 16 GB of RAM and M.2 slot, would make the perfect Linux desktop machine. However, you only receive one or two major distribution updates from the hardware vendor, and then you're stuck with it.

ndiddy•1h ago
> As you can see, the Ubuntu 24.04 distro is missing from the list, and this is a shame, since this is a board released late 2024. I contacted OrangePi and they mentioned that they would eventually release a 24.04 version, but there was no clear timeline for that.

> Sadly, but this was almost expected, there does not seem to be any kind of GPU support in the version that I have chosen. A quick check with glxgears confirms that there is just a software pipe for rendering.

Stuff like this is why people keep picking Raspberry Pi. There's tons and tons of alternative SBCs that have better price to performance on paper, but the software support is always awful. You're always limited to a few distro images released by the SBC vendor, and there's no effort spent by them on getting everything working. This product came out in December 2024, and they STILL don't have images with working GPU acceleration.

rjsw•58m ago
The support for GPU acceleration is there in the mainline kernel and in Mesa, it is down to the distribution including older versions.
ekianjo•55m ago
There is upcoming support as part of BredOS, as mentioned at the end. (the link to BredOS has more details on the status). So eventually, that SBC should be working with a mainline kernel.
PaulKeeble•52m ago
These less common SBCs used to be really bad to run because they didn't get updates. Nowadays its always worth checking what is available on Armbian because they have a lot of supported images for these other SBCs.
ekianjo•31m ago
The previous Orange Pi 5 models now all have support on ARMbian so it's expected that this one would follow (soon?).
rickcarlino•29m ago
I tried to use an OrangePi but got frustrated with buildroot quirkiness. We ended up just using an RPI. Other folks in this thread have said similar things, but this really is the reason why RPI often wins.
farixco•26m ago
The NPU is somewhat usable on RK3588(S(2)) boards, as long as the kernel you’re using is recent enough to have the latest NPU driver.

For a quick bring-up and implementation, take a look at this repo: https://github.com/Pelochus/ezrknpu

I have a Radxa Rock 5C (on Armbian) and it runs various models rather well. Trying to convert models is kind of a pain, though, so watch out.

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