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LineageOS 23

https://lineageos.org/Changelog-30/
84•cdesai•2h ago

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timschumi•2h ago
:^)
luca020400•2h ago
^^
le-mark•1h ago
LineageOS is an open source android distribution. Can anyone comment on who might use LineageOS and why?
andrepd•1h ago
If you want to escape Google's monopoly, you can use LineageOS without google apps, as opposed to the malware and spyware-ridden trash that usually comes preinstalled on your phone.
theandrewbailey•1h ago
Even if you run LineageOS without Google, LineageOS still phones home to Google for DNS and captive portal checks.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

andrepd•5m ago
Yes, that's unfortunate. But it is "easily" patchable (and a world of difference from actually running google play services with root privileges on your phone).
AbraKdabra•1h ago
I have a Samsung Tablet and Samsung's version for said tablet is a giant mountain of crap, full of bloatware, so I installed LineageOS on it. Also my old phone and my old old phone run LineageOS because I'm just logged in to Google on my {current_phone}.
theandrewbailey•1h ago
I ran LineageOS on my Moto X4 for many years. It was much faster without the OEM Moto and carrier apps, and was faster again when I installed it without Google Play Services. Same thing with an old Kindle Fire tablet, finally made it fast enough to practically use.
andai•1h ago
I haven't used custom roms in ages, but I used Lineage back when it was called Cyanogen. It had this cool thing where you could adjust brightness by swiping the top edge of the screen. (This was back in the day when you could reach that part easily!)
chasil•1h ago
Every version of Lineage has rooted ADB accessible in the developer options. If you want root for apps, you must load Magisk. If root is important to you, this is your OS.

Lineage puts out all the patches that they can, every month, unlike OEMs. If current patches are important to you, this is your OS.

Lineage allows you to run it without any Google closed source code.

These are some serious advantages, depending upon what you are trying to do.

PaulKeeble•1h ago
If your phone is more than a few years old it likely doesn't get updates from the manufacturer anymore. LineageOS will get you to the latest Android with security patches. Same sort of deal as with OpenWRT for a router really, you get all the features and security patches but at the loss of the firmware that the device came with and its propriety enhancements.
sltr•1h ago
I immediately put Lineage on all my devices. In fact, I only buy Android devices that Lineage supports. It's a uniform, degoogled Android experience that just works.
dbeley•1h ago
I use LineageOS on all my devices (it's actually my main criteria when buying a phone) to mainly install apps from F-Droid without relying on the Google Play Store.

It has the same familiar look and feel on all devices and by experience is way snappier than the original ROM.

konaraddi•1h ago
are you able to do any banking your phone?
sltr•58m ago
(Lineage user here) I've had no trouble with Schwab, USAA, Discover, Amex, Mercury, PayPal, Venmo, or Stripe.

Phone is rooted with Magisk Hide and MicroG for spoofing google play services. Google Wallet does not work.

Brian_K_White•57m ago
Most everything banking related works for me. 2 different credit unions, roboinvesting, paypal & paypal-alikes, credit card, car insurance, etc.

What does not work? An LG app to control an air conditioner.

Also I have to hide root from the roku app, which I use for the headphone because it works better than the headphone on the remote.

Super important stuff, no wonder they lock that down so much.

Ok I did skip one real thing for the sake of the funny. I can't do google tap to pay. That's about it.

This is all the same on a rooted standard rom as on Lineage.

Gualdrapo•1h ago
Got a Xperia Z1 in 2013. Sony stopped updating it at some point in 2014-2015, which is stupid, but the hardware was still like new (which is the great thing about Sony phones) so I rooted it and managed to install it. Can't remember if it was already named "LineageOS" or "CyanogenMod" at the time. However, it lasted with me until nov. 2020 when I dropped and the screen cracked, made it to be changed but the replacement was kinda bad so used it as an excuse to get a 1ii.

I did the same with this "new" phone, that is going to be 5 years with me - since also got that only-two-years-of-updates thing, threw LineageOS on it and it's going as new.

So as I said the last time I saw a post about it in here, thanks to LineageOS I can use a phone for way more than they are set out to be forgotten. It's a great project and it's really sad Google are making things harder for them for the sake of "security".

itshossein•1h ago
for some certain models it offers updated android versions (while the company doesn't)
arcanemachiner•59m ago
I want to use an OS that isn't loaded with spyware, so non-FOSS Android just doesn't fit the bill for me.
altmind•55m ago
Because aosp is basically useless on your phone - it lacks a ton of apps
andrepd•1h ago
> And I heard that Google stopped pushing Pixel source?

> Yes, Google has pulled back here too. Pixel kernels are now only offered as history-stripped tarballs, available privately on request, with no device trees, HALs, or configs. Thanks to projects like CalyxOS, Pixels will likely remain well supported, but they’re no longer guaranteed “day one” devices for LineageOS. Pixel devices are now effectively no easier to support than any other OEM’s devices. In short, this just makes things harder, not impossible.

These fucking bastards. How far we have fallen in ~10 years of smartphone ubiquity. I have zero hopes that this monopolising trend will ever be reversed without top-down regulation from a big bloc like the EU.

jMyles•1h ago
At the risk of sounding knee-jerk libertarian (though there are worse ways to sound), it seems to me that top-down, big bloc regulation is a non-trivial piece of what has gotten into this mess.

The entrenchment via regulatory capture at the baseband level, with enormous state interplay with TSMC and Qualcomm (both economic and regulatory, both publicly known and classified), makes it impossible for a seriously independent actor to enter the market, exception _maybe_ an ubercapitalist like Musk or something.

I'm much more interested to see what happens when we achieve sufficient peace that industrial complexes are no longer the primary pillar of support for chip engineering and fabrication. I suspect that this will unlock the open development, up to the kernel and beyond, that we all hope for.

janice1999•1h ago
You can't blame the EU for Google pulling developer support for devices or holding back security patches.

There are pros and cons to "big bloc regulation". You can go and start a phone company since so many things are standarised but the main constraint will be who you source a modem from and the lack of choice will be because of patents (see Apple vs Qualcomm).

Incipient•43m ago
Aren't there are a few modem vendors? MediaTek, Intel, and a bunch of Chinese players?
zbentley•54m ago
What would baseband usage look like in a deregulated world?

I’m skeptical, but the question is honest. Without the (quite corrupt) allotment of frequencies and broadcast radio tech by the FCC and government, I’m having trouble envisioning a future that doesn’t end up back at the bcm/qcm/etc. near-monopoly … just via market collusion rather than state orchestration. Is there a better future there that I’m missing?

zb3•1h ago
Well, waiting for the eBPF backport then.. still more likely to be released than AOSP 16 QPR1 :)
sharts•1h ago
How do backups/restores work when using LineageOS and moving to a new phone?
fiatpandas•1h ago
Anyone setup a Rabbit R1 with lineage?

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