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FSF announces Librephone project

https://www.fsf.org/news/librephone-project
422•g-b-r•4h ago•161 comments

Disk Prices

https://diskprices.com/?locale=us
49•bookofjoe•2h ago•16 comments

New England's last coal plant has stopped operating, according to its owners

https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-10-06/new-englands-last-coal-plant-has-stopped-operating-accord...
64•toomuchtodo•3h ago•32 comments

Beliefs that are true for regular software but false when applied to AI

https://boydkane.com/essays/boss
277•beyarkay•9h ago•217 comments

Why The Pentagon run the best schools and the safest nuclear program

https://www.governance.fyi/p/the-pentagons-best-schools-and-safest
29•guardianbob•2h ago•13 comments

How bad can a $2.97 ADC be?

https://excamera.substack.com/p/how-bad-can-a-297-adc-be
206•jamesbowman•11h ago•113 comments

Can We Know Whether a Profiler Is Accurate?

https://stefan-marr.de/2025/10/can-we-know-whether-a-profiler-is-accurate/
16•todsacerdoti•2h ago•2 comments

Interviewing Intel's Chief Architect of x86 Cores

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/interviewing-intels-chief-architect
24•ryandotsmith•5d ago•0 comments

How AI hears accents: An audible visualization of accent clusters

https://accent-explorer.boldvoice.com/
180•ilyausorov•12h ago•70 comments

Nvidia DGX Spark: great hardware, early days for the ecosystem

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Oct/14/nvidia-dgx-spark/
22•GavinAnderegg•3h ago•3 comments

Unpacking Cloudflare Workers CPU Performance Benchmarks

https://blog.cloudflare.com/unpacking-cloudflare-workers-cpu-performance-benchmarks/
145•makepanic•7h ago•20 comments

Hacking the Humane AI Pin

https://writings.agg.im/posts/hacking_ai_pin/
94•agg23•6d ago•21 comments

Surveillance data challenges what we thought we knew about location tracking

https://www.lighthousereports.com/investigation/surveillance-secrets/
336•_tk_•7h ago•79 comments

How to turn liquid glass into a solid interface

https://tidbits.com/2025/10/09/how-to-turn-liquid-glass-into-a-solid-interface/
93•tambourine_man•8h ago•72 comments

Printing Petscii Faster

https://retrogamecoders.com/printing-petscii-faster/
8•ibobev•4d ago•0 comments

Beating the L1 cache with value speculation (2021)

https://mazzo.li/posts/value-speculation.html
22•shoo•4d ago•7 comments

SmolBSD – build your own minimal BSD system

https://smolbsd.org
149•birdculture•10h ago•11 comments

GrapheneOS is ready to break free from Pixels

https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/
208•MaximilianEmel•5h ago•86 comments

What Americans die from vs. what the news reports on

https://ourworldindata.org/does-the-news-reflect-what-we-die-from
454•alphabetatango•9h ago•251 comments

A 12,000-year-old obelisk with a human face was found in Karahan Tepe

https://www.trthaber.com/foto-galeri/karahantepede-12-bin-yil-oncesine-ait-insan-yuzlu-dikili-tas...
271•fatihpense•1w ago•110 comments

Astronomers 'image' a mysterious dark object in the distant Universe

https://www.mpg.de/25518363/1007-asph-astronomers-image-a-mysterious-dark-object-in-the-distant-u...
205•b2ccb2•13h ago•107 comments

CSS for Styling a Markdown Post

https://webdev.bryanhogan.com/miscellaneous/styling-markdown/
20•bryanhogan•1w ago•5 comments

Ally Petitt: Youngest OSCP at 16yo. Over 11 CVEs by 18

https://ally-petitt.com/en/posts/2024-05-07_how-i-became-a-hacker-before-i-finished-high-school/
34•nullbyte808•4h ago•6 comments

ADS-B Exposed

https://adsb.exposed/
289•keepamovin•17h ago•73 comments

AI and Home-Cooked Software

https://mrkaran.dev/posts/ai-home-cooked-software/
42•todsacerdoti•1w ago•24 comments

Preparing for AI's economic impact: exploring policy responses

https://www.anthropic.com/research/economic-policy-responses
31•grantpitt•9h ago•29 comments

Show HN: Metorial (YC F25) – Vercel for MCP

https://github.com/metorial/metorial
47•tobihrbr•13h ago•18 comments

Zoo of array languages

https://ktye.github.io/
151•mpweiher•17h ago•46 comments

AppLovin nonconsensual installs

https://www.benedelman.org/applovin-nonconsensual-installs/
144•jhap•8h ago•49 comments

Beyond the SQLite single-writer limitation with concurrent writes

https://turso.tech/blog/beyond-the-single-writer-limitation-with-tursos-concurrent-writes
61•syrusakbary•1w ago•55 comments
Open in hackernews

GrapheneOS is ready to break free from Pixels

https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/
207•MaximilianEmel•5h ago

Comments

WD-42•5h ago
This could be really good considering current events in the android space.
SpecialistK•5h ago
Any guesses who the OEM is? I'm thinking Nothing.
d3Xt3r•5h ago
They said "major OEM" so I don't think it's them. Unlikely to be Samsung either. Maybe Xiaomi or Lenovo (Motorola)?
bogwog•5h ago
They said it'd be priced similarly to Pixels, so ~$1000 range. Afaik the only Motorola phone in that range is the Razr, but that'd be a weird choice.
Dylan16807•3h ago
I sure hope they're not excluding the a series when they say that.
joecool1029•4h ago
No shot on it being Xiaomi (or any other BBK brand like OnePlus), they haven't been super great to the custom rom community in some years now.

I would have guessed HMD, but they just pulled out of the US market: https://www.androidauthority.com/hmd-global-leaves-us-market...

However, Motorola/Lenovo seems the most logical partner, they were previously in the Android One program (which was sort of the successor to the Nexus line).

IlikeKitties•4h ago
Given that OnePlus is the only other vendor that currently has semi-decent custom rom support my guess is them, followed by HMD.
MaximilianEmel•5h ago
My guess is Sony.
walterbell•3h ago
Sailfish also supported some Sony devices, https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/
cmxch•2h ago
If they got rid of their fear of the US market, they might actually have gotten somewhere.
bitwize•1h ago
The US smartphone market basically consists of two brands: Apple and Samsung. Everyone else is fighting for scraps.
bpye•3h ago
Sony pulled out of NA a few years ago so that would be non-ideal for many folks…
foresto•2h ago
That would be interesting. I have long wished that Sony phones would allow re-locking the bootloader to an OS signed with my own keys.

Some of their Xperia Compact models have been excellent, but they haven't been making them like that in recent years. Dare I hope for a return of their truly compact flagship phones and GrapheneOS support?

d3Xt3r•5h ago
This is excellent news. I've always wanted to try GrapheneOS, but I dislike Google and dislike Pixels even more (Tensor sucks + there's the whole VoLTE/5G issue), so I never got a chance to try it out.

Hopefully they select an OEM which supports pKVM - that's the one Pixel feature I'd really like to see being implemented on other Android devices.

Nashooo•4h ago
Curious, what phone would you recommend/do you use?
d3Xt3r•4h ago
I use a Samsung Fold because I read a lot of books/manga, and I also love its multitasking features over stock Android/Pixel. Finally I also prefer it's form-factor (roughly 3:4 unfolded screen, and a narrow front screen) over other similar devices.

But it's obviously not for everyone so I can't really recommend it to everyone. And to be honest I can't in good faith recommend any Android phone these days, I hate what Google and other OEMs have done to the ecosystem.

I'm quite bullish on Linux phones though, like the FuriPhone FLX1, the Volla Phone Quintus, and the Jolla C2 - obviously again they're not for everyone, so for normies I would recommend an iPhone, and for techies I'd suggest giving the Linux phones a try (or maybe get a OnePlus/Nothing phone and load LineageOS+Magisk if you don't mind playing the cat-and-mouse game with Play Integrity).

esseph•3h ago
What is the VoLTE/5G issue? On T-Mobile, haven't had any issues with it living in a pretty rural spot. Isn't that like a Verizon problem?
d3Xt3r•2h ago
It's more of an issue for carriers who don't sell Pixel devices, particularly in countries where the Pixel isn't sold officially (eg: New Zealand). So generally VoLTE, VoWiFi and sometimes even 5G too might not work. You can use a hack to get around that, but now Google has blocked that hack: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45553764

Edit: Looks like there's an updated workaround now, but this is what I mean - it's really unacceptable that an essential feature like VoLTE - which is required to make phone calls - may not work depending on your carrier/region.

moogly•5h ago
Oh I hope it's one that makes flippables. It'd be hard to go back to mega-slabs now.
Animats•5h ago
Oh, good. There's going to be a migration path for F-Droid users after Google's latest actions.
zb3•5h ago
By not publishing Pixel device trees Google shot themselves in the foot removing the only reason for me buying their devices, while at the same time gaining nothing. Great move :)
827a•2h ago
A lot of people will say "well, the market of people who want that is so small that its not even a blip on Google's radar", but let's cut that one off at the pass: No one buys pixel devices anymore. Their sales are abysmal, Tensor mobile silicon has been a failure, and the one thing they kinda had going for them was general good vibes with the broader tech community. But, they're Google, so they ruined that too.

I suspect there will be a Pixel 11, maybe a Pixel 12, but that'll be it.

like_any_other•5h ago
I applaud them - finding an OEM to build a phone for an Android fork is extremely difficult, because Google conditions access to the Play store on a manufacturer not building any phones with Android forks [1]. A move so ridiculously anti-competitive and hostile that it's outrageous they haven't been sued for it yet by at least the EU. It's not only that their products spy on you - they are actively doing all they can to kill any other products. If you care about privacy, they are your enemy, it's as simple as that.

[1] While it might not be an official requirement, being granted a Google apps license will go a whole lot easier if you join the Open Handset Alliance. The OHA is a group of companies committed to Android—Google's Android—and members are contractually prohibited from building non-Google approved devices. That's right, joining the OHA requires a company to sign its life away and promise to not build a device that runs a competing Android fork. Acer was bit by this requirement when it tried to build devices that ran Alibaba's Aliyun OS in China. Aliyun is an Android fork, and when Google got wind of it, Acer was told to shut the project down or lose its access to Google apps. - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on...

aniviacat•4h ago
GrapheneOS' Reddit comment shown in the article says "selling devices with GrapheneOS preinstalled would be nice but wouldn't be required".

To me that sounds like devices with GrapheneOS preinstalled is not gonna happen.

biotinker•4h ago
I would suspect that the sort of person (like myself) that would rather run GrapheneOS over LineageOS would rather install themselves than buy preinstalled. Much easier to verify no one slipped you an altered image.
ocdtrekkie•3h ago
So the Android MADA and the AFA was wholesale struck as illegal a couple years ago, both in the US and elsewhere. So this requirement cannot legally exist. Whether Google will give someone a license who also ships a fork though is certainly in question, I suspect most OEMs aren't willing to risk their business seeing if the mafia wants to follow the law. Google has such a reputation for being abusive at this point an actual agreement or rule is no longer necessary.
pavon•3h ago
This is at least partially banned by the injunction from Epic vs Google:

  7. For a period of three years ending on November 1, 2027, Google may not condition a payment, revenue share, or access to any Google product or service, on an agreement with an original equipment manufacturer (OEM) or carrier to preinstall the Google Play Store on any specific location on an Android device.
  8. For a period of three years ending on November 1, 2027, Google may not condition a payment, revenue share, or access to any Google product or service, on an agreement with an OEM or carrier not to preinstall an Android app distribution platform or store other than the Google Play Store.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.37...
idle_zealot•5h ago
I really appreciate having a non-Google Android OS, free of Play services and other lock-in, and use Graphene on my own Pixel. The focus on security and hardening is also appreciated, but I wish the project were more ambitious in terms of actually improving on Android in terms of usability, features, and overall experience. As-is it feels like a barebones AOSP with all the security improvements existing as a sort of hypothetical improvement in the background.
ForHackernews•4h ago
You might like /e/OS. It's less secure/hardened than Graphene, but offers a de-Googled Android with a focus on privacy and usability.
user2722•3h ago
It uses microG which has its own set of issues, though.
esseph•3h ago
What more do you want your phone to do at this point?
beeflet•3h ago
work in 10 years
jojobas•3h ago
While this is awesome, I'm kinda skeptical on the premise on two points.

Almost nobody cares about privacy, and this is going to be super expensive. I might be fine with paying extra, but the economy might not work out, like it didn't for Blackphone. Fairphone is barely alive as well. Seeing as phones are just source of ad money Google can drop the prices on their phones as well.

Some European countries and banks already require crap like Play Integrity for essential apps. So far it's possible to hold out, but for how much longer?

XorNot•3h ago
This is the real problem: I need my phone to work with my bank. So whatever we're doing, that's the bar to clear.
foresto•2h ago
Is there something important in banking apps that cannot be done with a web browser?
Gee101•2h ago
My bank uses the banking app for auth if I try and login via a browser.
HPsquared•2h ago
Barclays in the UK offer (or used to) a hardware device with a keypad allowing the user to do a challenge-response using the bank card's chip and PIN. Not sure if they still do, though.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program

array_key_first•1h ago
That's because they're stupid or doing something suspicious, probably both.

There's legitimately zero reason to allow 2FA only on your own propreitary app. You can't even make a financial argument - allowing other TOTP methods is cheaper because now you don't need an app!

weikju•10m ago
> That's because they're stupid or doing something suspicious, probably both

Small comfort for whoever needs to use that bank. This is the disconnect geeks and Free Software needs to bridge to make any headway.

ysnp•4h ago
It's hopeful news. GrapheneOS have had access to security patches as part of their agreement with an OEM partner already, so I assume these discussions/plans have been with the same partner. They are also hopeful of getting full access to AOSP releases which would greatly alleviate the pain Google have put custom OS developers through recently.

I am still very surprised that any OEM is willing to commit to monthly security updates and OS upgrades for a minimum of possibly five years. I think it would be a good thing for GrapheneOS to have more than one partnership in future for the Android ecosystem as a whole.

NoboruWataya•4h ago
Anyone know if partnering with a major OEM for official support makes it more likely that they will be able to consistently support things like banking apps (and maybe even payment apps) in the future?

I suspect the answer is "no" but I want to believe...

zb3•4h ago
If those apps use "Play Integrity" (bad choice) then the probability is close to zero because it's Google that controls it. Other OEMs that currently pass it do it only because the device was certified by Google.

But being certified by Google of course precludes not preinstalling or sandboxing their GMS apps.

IlikeKitties•4h ago
The answer is it depends. Banking and similar Apps trying to "protect" the user from themselves aka treat the user like a retarded child do this through several mechanisms:

> Google Play Integrity

Essentially a Google API that App Developers integrate that checks if the device runs an Operating System signed by Google as "Play Certified". This can go as far as being backed by a hardware trusted platform module. I doubt Google will certify GrapheneOS given their modifications towards sandboxing the play services. This can be faked to a degree but GrapheneOS choses not to do it and to fake the TPM part you need leaked keys. For more details on how to fake it look at this thread: https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-how-to-pass-strong-integrity-o...

> Fingerprinting the Device OS

This can very from app to app and just tries to fingerprint the device in many ways to see if it's running a custom rom of some kind. This does things like check to see if the bootloader is unlocked or if root is installed. I think this is something an official grapheneos phone might fix since the phone vendor could allow grapheneos to sign their releases as native equivalent

> Banning GrapheneOS by Name

Some Apps Developers literally ban GrapheneOS by name.

> Failures due to Google Play Sandboxing

Since GrapheneOS sandboxes Google Play Services there might be compatibility issues that prevent the app from working right. This would likely be unaffected by a GrapheneOS Phone.

> Failures due to Advanced Security Features

Some Apps just don't "like" the advanced security features like the hardened malloc and other protections and just fail. This can be disabled most of the time

baobun•4h ago
The situation you're alluding to is not a case of "GrapheneOS doesn't support banking apps" but rather "Some app publishers employ Google Play Protect and other measures in order to explicitly block GrapheneOS". GrapheneOS can not do anything about that. Choose your banking and payment apps accordingly.

FWIW I have run several banking apps on GrapheneOS without any issues whatsoever, never had any blocks or compatibility issues. Might just be luck of the draw but just to say you probably do have options.

NoboruWataya•4h ago
Yes, I understand many banking apps do work and from reports I have read online it even seems like a couple of the banking apps I use are among the good ones. What gives me pause is how fragile the situation is. Banking apps get "upgraded" all the time to include new security "features". Already I have had my main banking app refuse to work because I had accessibility features enabled for a different app, and subsequently refuse to work again because I had developer mode enabled. If my banking app works on GrapheneOS I am convinced it is because the bank has not gotten round to blocking it yet and it's only a matter of time, unfortunately.
warkdarrior•3h ago
If you want your bank to take the liability for any monetary losses from your account getting hacked (for example, through spyware using accessibility on Android), then you have to be OK with their requirements.

If you don't like their requirements, you need to take the liability yourself. You could use PayPal or a stablecoin to store your money.

spaqin•1h ago
Or root with Magisk and hide the developer mode from the offending app. Unfortunately it's always a cat and mouse game, so for some apps it's probably easiest to have a cheap, outdated (and by some metrics thus unsafe) device in a drawer at home.

Your money is far more at risk with scams and phishing than it is with whatever boogeyman spyware you may try to think of that does not exist in real life.

array_key_first•1h ago
There has to be a limit here. Blocking accessibility in the name of security is piece of shit behavior. That's uh, a technical term.

Banks have plenty of money. They don't need to be up your ass to keep liability down.

Dylan16807•3h ago
> GrapheneOS can not do anything about that.

OEM support is a step toward passing integrity, and that's what those apps are looking for.

charcircuit•3h ago
>GrapheneOS can not do anything about that

They can fund the development and support work for attesting GrapheneOS along with funding support for compatibility with the os. The more users that GrapheneOS has the less money they'll need to pay to fund such a project.

xethos•3h ago
I sincerely doubt it, but a large OEM with first-party support makes it (IMO) more likely for banking apps to support GApps-less handsets(instead of the inverse, Graphene supporting banking apps) - a dramatically better outcome, as that allows Waydroid more breathing room as a viable solution for Linux-first handsets too.

This would of course be contigent on GrapheneOS growing their market- and mind-share in the general public, while also taking several years to impact the least move-fast-and-break-things industry (consumer banking).

But still, a man can dream.

esseph•3h ago
If the phone is rooted, most banks will not support it. That includes grapheneOS.
hardran3•2h ago
GOS isn't rooted.
MaximilianEmel•2h ago
Your phone isn't rooted on GrapheneOS.
giantg2•4h ago
"GrapheneOS didn’t reveal the name of its new partner, but said that those devices will be priced in the same range as Pixels"

Boo

Night_Thastus•4h ago
Yep. I like my midrange phone I got for ~$300. I'm not paying top-dollar just for GrapheneOS.
giantg2•4h ago
I'd love a phone around that price that would run Graphene.
buyanoldermodel•4h ago
Why not just buy an older pixel a model ...? Like a 7a ... It is cheaper and runs GOS.
epolanski•3h ago
I personally can't buy phones without physical dual sim.

Dual eSIMs when travelling have failed me too many times.

esseph•3h ago
Everything is moving to esim.
giantg2•2h ago
When I was looking, the older models were around $500. Looks like they came down in price. I also looked at used, but my company stipend/discount would only apply to new.
beeflet•3h ago
you can get a used 6a for ~$160
floxy•4h ago
Pixel 9a was $350 during last week's Amazon prime day sale. Currently at $399. Likely to go down again for Black Friday, etc..
SchwKatze•4h ago
They made this "announcement" around 80 days ago here on HN :) [1]

1- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44676691#44678172

tiagod•4h ago
I remember reading that comment. Disappointing article, but good to know it's still in progress.
fwipsy•4h ago
The tone of this announcement seems a lot more certain than the previous one, at least.
giantg2•4h ago
I wonder what percentage of Pixel sales ended up running Graphene. It feels like running Graphene is the only real benefit to a Pixel. I wonder if Google is getting out of phones after Pixel 10 or 11.
imiric•4h ago
It's probably a negligible percentage. Installing custom ROMs is niche even within the tech crowd.
sndean•4h ago
Could estimate ~1% (+/- 1%) given the Graphene user estimates [1] and the tens of millions of Pixels sold at this point.

[1] https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21946-grapheneos-popularity...

giantg2•3h ago
Interesting, I wouldn't have guessed they had tens of millions active.
warkdarrior•3h ago
1% of "tens of millions" is hundreds of thousands.
ForHackernews•4h ago
Typical mind fallacy.

According to one estimate, there are about 250k total GrapheneOS users https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12281-how-many-grapheneos-u...

This source claims Google shipped 10 million devices last year https://coolest-gadgets.com/google-pixel-smartphones-statist...

If we generously assume every GrapheneOS user bought a new phone in the last year, 2.5% of those Pixels are running Graphene.

giantg2•3h ago
Is it a fallacy if I never made a claim about percentage?
dvsfish•3h ago
I think with the suggestion made at the end about that google would be getting out of phones (for some reason - perhaps graphene causing google long term phone margins to no longer be worth it? What are you actually suggesting?) it's hard to really know what you're going for here.
esseph•3h ago
> only real benefit to running a pixel

Not a phrase I expected to read, whew. Tough customers.

I've been very happy with several generations of pixels at this point compared to the alternatives.

vcxy•3h ago
Yeah, I recently upgraded to the 9a from the 4a for $250 USD and am still really enjoying Pixels. I might just be out of the loop on what's available, but I can't imagine many other phones at this price are competitive.
triyambakam•1h ago
6a to 9a here too!
phoronixrly•4h ago
I hope it's not one of the biggest names. I hope they've decided to work with a more ethical brand to elevate their quality. How about a Graphene OS phone with a removable battery?
zvmaz•3h ago
At any rate, they explicitly said that they are not working with fairphone [1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44678459

walterbell•3h ago
2027 in EU: https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-rep...
imiric•4h ago
This is good news, but I hope that the device is not a "Graphene-phone". I.e. that it's not strictly built for GOS, but that it's a good generic and open device that happens to support GOS. For example, I would like such hardware to also be able to run mainline Linux, and to be able to run GOS on other devices besides the single approved one, potentially from different manufacturers.
ACCount37•3h ago
Graphene doesn't have the volume to get a custom flagship grade device made for them. So even if they get a device that ships with Graphene preinstalled? It's going to be a variant of another Android phone.

Which is, generally, not that good for Linux mainlining. Qualcomm SoCs are "meh" when it comes to mainline Linux support - some parts are there, but a lot of them aren't. It has been getting better for the last bit though?

hfkdygdy•3h ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45586622
matheusmoreira•2h ago
Amazing news!!! Google is incapable of selling their phones worldwide. Here's to hoping GrapheneOS's new phones will be easier to get hold of.
t1234s•2h ago
graphine needs a built in calendar app that uses caldav
smashah•1h ago
GrapheneOS + Xiaomi hardware = Pixel killer