What differentiates a good shed from a bike shed?
If my bike is there when I go to it.
> Poul-Henning's assertion that all such ideas should be dismissed as "bikeshedding" reflects this dismissive attitude, which can be just as damaging to a software project as taking too many suggestions (or accepting bad ones). At the time of the discussion I mention above, internal squabbles drove several talented programmers from the project, and I was discouraged from becoming more deeply involved in it. FreeBSD was falling behind Linux in features and in popularity. While it has now caught up in terms of technology, it remains an underdog. This is, in part, due to the developers' dismissal as "bikeshedding" of good ideas that Linux adopted much earlier.
The color of the bike shed only doesn't matter if it's the only bike shed, and there is no documentation which has already settled the matter.
If the Convention Manual says all sheds shall be green they'll argue about what shade of green. If it says it should be Magellan Green they'll argue about whether it should be clear coated and what grit should be used to prepare the surface. It never ends. They'll argue about whether the window frames should be the same color etc.
The general idea is to introduce a glaring mistake into any proposal you make. Then the boss (or whoever feels like bikeshedding) can "catch" that mistake upon which you congratulate them on their infinite wisdom, fix the mistake, and the project can move along.
So to avoid the bikeshed color discussion, just do something totally stupid, like not have a roof, or a wall, then the nit-pickers will comment on that, you can quickly "address their concerns" and proceed to have a bike shed of any color you want.
The very competent can do this without the boss realizing ;) Or it's just a tall tale.
One strategically misspelled word placed somewhere around and neer the lower right of the page…
At least that’s the way some lawyers I know do it.
I also think the idea here is to apply it to bosses who's self-worth seems to be tied to putting their mark on the product without being burdened by knowledge. (Because they'll want to change something regardless of the state)
Comedy sketch writers would write a throwaway that was too off the wall to air, then include it in their proposal among others to make sure their darlings made it through.
I'm also reminded of the story of the Tetris contract in which a revision of the contract had an important change of a few words, and also an increase of some other fee. This fee change stole the attention and hid the other more insidious revision.
https://blog.codinghorror.com/new-programming-jargon/#:~:tex...
If you do that, you'd do me a favour.
The printed version, should, if dropped on a desk from about a foot, make a thud.
Then write the summary that is short, sweet, to the point, and nothing but glowing.
Every one will just smile and nod and agree with you.
https://philipkdickreview.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/war-game/
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This doesn't explain much since you can do that without personally arguing about the colors
Or perhaps https://steelblue.bikeshed.com/ .
(For those who haven't seen, the site accepts any CSS color as a subdomain.)
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Ask HN: How do you avoid bikeshedding? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30959723 - April 2022 (14 comments)
Why Should I Care What Color the Bikeshed Is? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29772108 - Jan 2022 (1 comment)
Why Should I Care What Color the Bikeshed Is? (1999) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12533079 - Sept 2016 (52 comments)
Bikeshedding - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12403557 - Sept 2016 (31 comments)
Why Should I Care What Color the Bikeshed Is? (1999) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6188408 - Aug 2013 (31 comments)
Why Should I Care What Color the Bikeshed Is? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1739203 - Sept 2010 (2 comments)
Why Should I Care What Color the Bikeshed Is? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=272246 - Aug 2008 (14 comments)
NaOH•27m ago