Tenacity – a multi-track audio editor/recorder

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ktpsns•5h ago

An audacity fork. Reason for forking described at https://tenacityaudio.org/docs/_content/Introduction_and_Mot... . Their own summary:

> at the primary reasons were attempts at adding telemetry and a new desktop privacy policy [by the new audacity maintainers]

Previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34835200

forgotpwd16•4h ago

So, 4 years since the initial forks and 2 years since the Audacium merge, how Tenacity (basically Tenacity&Saucedacity&Audacium) compares to Audacity?

cookiengineer•2h ago

Well, technically the reason for the fork was the implanted backdoor that was executing a binary coming from Muse groups server, hidden as telemetry and an update check. It's not a well built backdoor and the code is easy to spot, as there's not a lot of other http related code in audacity itself.

edit: Check the au3/src/update/UpdateManager.cpp, they're still not hiding this better after all that happened, lol.

[1] https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/8d6e45a9756e700b7f...

swiftcoder•1h ago

Can you point out the specific issue here? At a glance it looks like a fairly normal self-update patching process

Orygin•42m ago

I mean, you already are "executing a binary coming from Muse groups server" if you downloaded Audacity from their website. How is an auto update mechanism a backdoor? You have to accept a modal for it to run the downloaded binary.

I guess it could be improved by using and verifying signatures, but it seems pretty on point for a standard windows software auto update feature

evgpbfhnr•5h ago

If you're curious about the legacy link being a 404, the correct link seems to be that: https://tenacityaudio.org/legacy/legacy.html

(found sniffing around https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacityaudio.org , this 404 was reported on IRC)

Mashimo•3h ago

Audacity had a 5 year plan on removing technical debt and overhauling the UI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38 (1 hour long video)

Will this be merged into Tenacity or are they going further apart?

lapinovski•2h ago

that's a beautiful and very educational video. Basically how to listen user and how to implement feedback around user feedback.

I mean tantacrul's videos are generally super educational to begin with but I really liked this one tbh. Wish he could do this full time and had more frequent videos.

the only thing that I didn't liked the logo. I mean bleh. i hope they'll do something more nice to look at. that's my only complaint lol.

squarefoot•2h ago

I didn't know it was still maintained. Just gave it a try on this laptop with Manjaro Linux + XFCE and noticed it both messes with the desktop panel toolbar making it rearrange and flash repeatedly for some seconds while loading and also when changing preferences, then doesn't correctly fit fonts into the dropdown lists in all toolbars. It appears to me it doesn't take into account that the list elements add a bigger empty space around fonts compared for example to buttons, so it considers them shorter and they're partially cut out. I don't have a GH account to properly report this.

mulhoon•2h ago

Does anyone see multitrack recording happening well in-browser?

Has anyone tried BandLab? Aside from the social slop and recent aggressive advertising, their recording app is super impressive, glitch free, low latency, easy to use and sounds great.

Or will this always be the domain of installable software?

ginko•1h ago

Serious question: Why would it be preferable to have something like this in the browser? The thought of having to keep track of a browser tab that you might accidentally close and lose all your work doesn't sound great.

jmiskovic•1h ago

This is easy to fix with local storage. You reopen the tab and you're right where you left it. Unfortunately the companies see it as an opportunity to lock users in with cloud saving.

The allure is that the web is the most open, most stable and the most cross-device platform we have. Almost anything that was made for web still works today, with Flash and Java applets being the two big exceptions. Following the Lindy effect the self-contained web apps of today will still be operational far into the future.

Contrast this with Android's pathetic record of constantly breaking backward compatibility and restricting what software the users can even run on their devices.

jamesnorden•1h ago

Someone ported Audacity to the web. https://wavacity.com/

mystifyingpoi•24m ago

I've never recorded with BandLab, but used it a lot for playback, and for a beginner, it's really good and very easy to use.

With regards to recording - I'm curious how this would work on a scale like 16 ins at a time. Dumping bits from the interface to disk as uncompressed .wav is trivial, on the browser I'm not sure how storage works. Would it have to upload to the cloud immediately?

dsijak•1h ago

While Audacity is the app that I always have on every platform, UI is not so good. That shouldn't be hard to remake in raylib.

formerly_proven•1h ago

Audacity 4 is getting a completely new UI.

phero_cnstrcts•18m ago

I like this more https://www.ocenaudio.com/features

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