> Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal?
> Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continue to be free to use for developers across Windows, Mac, and Linux.
Well this is something at least I guess.
(yes I know they are working on it; but I also know iTerm2 and Konsole have had them since about forever, and I use that feature a lot, so it's kinda major impediment)
I started using it since it's cross platform and I use chezmoi, but the config quickly gets complicated if you want things like folders in your tab titles, etc
The growing popularity of ghostty has made me realize a lot of people don’t use scroll back history search. I use it frequently to save time and avoid having to rerun time intensive tasks to pipe them through grep or tee everything to a file.
Love the work they're doing though!!
scrollback-limit = 512000000
keybind = super+f=write_scrollback_file:open
But there's a whole thread on other workarounds etc. Apparently it's on the roadmap.
Source: ghosty maintainer
You’re really paying for AI compute, not the terminal.
s/a/an awful/
Some days I feel like everything peaked around mid-2000.
Whan awfult a time to be alive
$ echo "What a time to be alive" | sed s/a/an awful/
sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unterminated `s' command
As soon as they raised like 50M+ (why you'd ever need 50 million dollars to build a terminal—which have been essentially "solved" since the 1970s—is a pretty good question), this was bound to happen. Same nonsense will happen to Zed, etc.
Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues.
Now, Warp is a terrible product, and I have nothing nice to say about them.
But look at modern terminals like Kitty or Ghostty. There are so many very nice improvements. Like mouse support that works well (as opposed to "kind of works, but who needs a mouse?!, won't fix"), fast keyboard response (you'd think it wouldn't be noticeable, but it's very noticeable), copy-and-paste that makes sense and isn't different from everything else on the system, etc.
rxvt-unicode is plenty fast and handles unicode well, at least as far as I can tell...
With Warp, you purchase your AI compute through Warp (who then pays Anthropic, Open AI, etc. based on the model you choose).
Until they change their TOS and use all your terminal input to train their models.
I'm being sarcastic but how things are going something like this wouldn't surprise me at all.
However, I've been a Pro user for several months (use < 1000 credits a month) - but I've noticed a real reduction in quality over the past month or so. I'm now getting random failures, stopping of agents etc.
I guess these companies are running into issues not being able to expand capacity fast enough. Even a hyperscaler like Microsoft can't power a whole hype cycle. Or they're just squeezing to get more bottom line.
The new Build plan at $20/mo has 1,500 AI requests, but they roll over. (Edit: apparently they don’t)
> No bones about it: this plan will be more expensive for some users and less expensive for others.
> We get that there’s a lot of whiplash in the AI devtools pricing market, and sympathize. While we expect some churn from this change, we are trying to do it in as minimally disruptive a way as possible.
I’ve found Warp to be very useful, but you’re really paying for AI compute, not the terminal. And the AI compute space is getting very competitive.
Here’s where I got it from, but I see how it’s ambiguous. “You pay for what you use” sounds a bit like the BYOK (bring your own key) “add-on credits” pricing model you’re referring to.
But in the pricing table, they refer to monthly “AI credits”.
> For the Build plan, credits will not rollover but Reload credits will rollover and be valid for 12 months from the date of purchase.
I don't even bother with iTerm's AI integration because why would I???
It’s so much nicer for 90% of my terminal usage (long multi-line commands, etc.) And when you do need TUI behavior that 10% of the time, just toggle it off.
I know I’m going to come across as a bitter old geezer, but with a lot of things like this the “features” seem to be pale imitations of things which already exist and the real root problem is people just don’t invest the time to learn the tools they already have.
They added so many things I couldn’t keep up and I as just tired of updating it on launch every single day.
Yep, I can smell shite.
This is exactly it.
Don’t use or pay for any AI features. But it’s really nice having a terminal with multi-cursor and keyboard shortcuts like an editor.
Is there a terminal that offers this same experience,? All the comments here seem to be people crapping on it without trying it. it's really great for someone who develops but spends maybe only 5 percent of their time in the terminal for minor tasks
Why wouldn’t you just use Ghostty and claude code?
It is going to be way better than boutique integrations like Warp's, Cursor's, etc. anyway.
My terminal emulator handles all sorts of confidential data, credentials, API keys etc. I can't even imagine the damage that can be caused by a rogue terminal emulator.
For someone who don't, killer features:
- GUI settings - Regular text navigation - Just enough free AI for ffmpegging - Pretty nice theming, gruvbox + 70% opacity is chef's kiss - Command blocks are a nice - Restore sessions are nice - Input area error underlines, syntax highlighting, command suggestions
For someone who was never a big terminal user and now tries to use it occaisonally but still spends 95%+ time in GUI apps, this makes configuring, getting in, getting work done, and getting out super easy. When working on web projects, I'll usually run my apps in vscode for easier error logging & fixing workflows, and use warp for accessory things like installing packages.
smokeydoe•3mo ago