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Carice TC2 – A non-digital electric car

https://www.caricecars.com/
56•RubenvanE•2h ago

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0_____0•1h ago
Analog in what sense? No digital readouts?

It has a standard EV charge port, so it's definitely got computers in it somewhere to negotiate charging at a minimum.

imglorp•1h ago
The post's title was editorialized: the archived page makes no mention of analog. The neutral title would be "The 100% electric Carice TC2: a real retro head-turner".

I think OP meant there were no screens in the sparse cockpit, just some analog gauges.

And yeah electric cars need a battery management computer, a charge controller, and a motor controller at least.

candiddevmike•43m ago
Out of curiosity, are those components standardized/swappable between manufacturers/models, or customized for each individual make/model?

So much of "old school" auto maintenance was having a relatively standardized size/fit for similar components.

beardyw•40m ago
Hell, I was souring through to see how they made it fully analogue.

A stupid title.

ptsd_isv•1h ago
You can negotiate charging with essentially a single resistor. Deciding when to stop / balancing cells etc is the harder problem.
Onavo•1h ago
Well, OP Amps are technically "analog" too.
fragmede•39m ago
Well, they could be using vacuum tubes…
IshKebab•27m ago
> You can negotiate charging with essentially a single resistor.

For USB sure.... I'm pretty sure this doesn't charge over USB.

dlcarrier•30m ago
It's a term usually used to describe the gauges/displays on the dash.
lysace•1h ago
Mirror: https://archive.is/ACbrd
flobosg•1h ago
(2023), at least based on that mirror.
gdotdesign•1h ago
Lovin' this! Though I'm not a fan of the design but like the spirit of it.

I can't fathom why we can't have a modern car with analog displays and switches in the cockpit.

I own a 25 years old car which only has a digital radio (removeable!) and that's it, perfectly enough.

SirFatty•1h ago
No fuel injection or electronic ignition? I'm sure there's an ECU somewhere in the vehicle.
regularfry•1h ago
Not features found in the cockpit, unless you are not going to space today.
cameron_b•52m ago
This is the sentiment completely.

My 34-year old base spec Chevrolet has digital controls for timing advance, fuel trim, and integrated Engine and Transmission Control Units. But my dash has some analog components ( fuel level is variable voltage instead of PWM ). The mechanics would all say that my truck is very simple, and "old school"

The Lay use of 'analog' is far removed from function. As long as there isn't a screen, it isn't seen to be digital. I studied photography in college and loved shooting film. I have a processing machine that is based on a 6502. When people would talk about non-digital things as analog it would bug me (One is chemical, and one is a computer).

jonah•7m ago
It's electric.
addaon•51m ago
Look at the Bugatti Tourbillon. About as analog-appearing as it gets. Clearly there’s a recognition that this is what luxury looks like — but switches (let alone dials!) cost more than touch screens.
fragmede•35m ago
On a Bugatti? The switch replacement costs more than a car! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMgEhBsh/
porphyra•24m ago
The most analog-appearing car interior I've ever seen is the Spyker C8: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spyker_C8_Spyder_-_F...
bityard•1h ago
Oh, yet another luxury EV.

Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmare.

Upvoter33•49m ago
Don’t know the cost here but I would fathom it’s not “cloud connected”
brianshaler•31m ago
> What is the price of a Carice TC2?

> Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax).

ihumanable•34m ago
I'm holding out hope for https://www.slate.auto/en I know it's somehow associated with Amazon, is it going to be a cloud-connected privacy nightmare. I haven't heard anything about it, but I also wouldn't be surprised.
dlcarrier•20m ago
It rumored to have VC funding from Besos, but that doesn't give them special access to Amazon nor Amazon special access to Slat.

It can lead to conflicts of interest (see also: https://www.law.com/delbizcourt/2025/10/29/attorney-for-amaz...) but that's a far cry from significant data sharing.

jonah•3m ago
Slate doesn't have infotainment. It's BYOD with a dashboard mount and a USB connection for car integration.

I haven't heard specifically about connectedness otherwise, but I highly doubt there is a hidden SIM card in there somewhere.

RubenvanE•32m ago
The car starts at about €45k, about the same price as a Tesla Model 3!
herpdyderp•1h ago
Would be great to read about it but my residential internet has apparently been blocked for "malicious activity".
chrsw•57m ago
This is dangerously disruptive content.
protoster•52m ago
Residential internets are now proxies for AI scrapers.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45741357

fragmede•31m ago
specifically, “free” VPN isn’t free. They use your computer that has the VPN software installed as an exit nodes for other customers. Those other customers hammer websites for their AI until it gets blocked. Sucks for you, unfortunately.

Talk to your kids about the dangers of VPNs before it's too late.

cuu508•14m ago
Which VPNs are like that?
fragmede•4m ago
Hola is the big one, but in practice, if we hypothesis that no one's running a VPN as a charity, free VPN products need to make money someway, and if you're not paying to use it, how else are they gonna make money?

So basically be suspicious of every single "free" or suspiciously cheap VPN. Go with known brands that come recommended by mulitple people, especially from people "in the know".

Though PirateSoftware (a person) has a good bit on why he doesn't advertise for VPNs on his channel.

bityard•44m ago
From the pictures, this is the kind of vehicle that you would gladly pay extra to have delivered to your second vacation home so you can park it next to your 6 other semi-exotic cars and drive it half a mile to the country club on Saturdays.

If that is not your demographic, they might have geo-located your IP and blocked you based on the median income of your area. (Only half joking.)

dlcarrier•26m ago
You're Web browser probably isn't leaking enough identifiable information for the site to judge whether or not you're a bot, so it default to denying you.
pkphilip•52m ago
This is nice! not a big fan of the design and would really prefer a fixed roof but the concept is still a good one and the avoidance of all the digital doodads is great!
jmward01•40m ago
I like the idea, and we need variety in the market to keep things evolving, but I like the bells and whistles. I just don't want it to phone home. Honestly, I want the title to be 'we don't have a network connection and we can still be a car'. Privacy is my #1 feature.
stavros•24m ago
I have a BYD Seal and this was as simple as removing the SIM (it's in the armrest compartment and just pops out).
srameshc•12m ago
This is how it should be if the user prefers not to be connected.
abakker•5m ago
I mean, even back in the OnStar days, you could "opt out" and cancel the service and it would track you anyway. With BYD or any other car maker, I'd be worried the SIM was a placebo.
dreamcompiler•30m ago
Looks like it's Europe-only.
swiftcoder•29m ago
I want one. What will it cost?
throwup238•25m ago
From the FAQ at the bottom of the page:

> Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax)

Street legal in Europe but not the US, up to 300km range.

RubenvanE•26m ago
Some specs about the car:

- 31.5kWh

- 630kg

- 300km (186mi) range

This review explains the concept behind the car in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTzuUrdyIc

nine_k•18m ago
300 km with an extra battery. 200 km and 590 kg with a smaller one. It's about weight of a Lotus Elan, a bit heavier than a Fiat 500.
nine_k•24m ago
I like the general design very much. And additionally the fact that it is small, lightweight, and not imposing, while apparently being a fast car.

Except for one thing: the brushed metal dashboard. I can imagine how terribly it's going to reflect the sun from behind when the roof is folded. I hope they can offer a tasteful matte dark version.

As of the lack of bells and whistles, the dashboard seems to be prepared for being customized. I suppose it's not a cheap car, so a customization job is not going to ruin the buyer's finances. I can imagine that a custom radio with protected but visible vacuum tubes could appeal to some buyers.

jonah•6m ago
That dash stood out to me as well. Would definitely want wood or leather or a darker matte metal.
djoldman•44s ago
Some choice quotes:

> Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax).

> The Carice TC2 complies with the European regulations and can therefore be driven in all EU countries and countries that adopt those regulations, like Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Monaco and Norway.

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