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Judge denies request to exempt Flock footage from Public Records Act

https://www.goskagit.com/news/local_news/court-denies-request-that-it-find-flock-safety-camera-data-is-exempt-from-public-records/article_f1edd028-d242-479c-ada8-f2dfca73a1b1.html
46•p_ing•2h ago

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p_ing•2h ago
Full title too long for HN: Court denies request that it find Flock Safety camera data is exempt from Public Records Act
CalChris•1h ago
No paywall article.

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/judge-denies-request-to-exemp...

foundart•1h ago
with a better headline: "Judge denies request to exempt Flock footage from Public Records Act"
p_ing•6m ago
Thanks, that is better.

Also:

Redmond temporarily suspends use of Flock cameras - https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/redmond-police-depa...

exmadscientist•1h ago
Anyone have or know how to dig up the opinion? It looks like (but I'm not sure that) this is Skagit County Superior Court case number 252007173, but that doesn't seem to get me very far.
c420•1h ago
Gonna need to contact the county clerk. Using https://www.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.contentDisplay&l... and entering superior court and the county then the case number returns "Status: Archived No Docket Info" for both plaintiffs and the defendant.
Arrath•1h ago
Good, such records shouldn't be exempt. So what if they were gathered by a third party, it was a service carried out under request of the local government/law enforcement, and paid for by public money.
jmpman•1h ago
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/08/us/melodee-buzzard-missing-se...

How was all of this data gathered without being a violation?

FireBeyond•30m ago
This is a reasonably common (sadly) methodology that many agencies utilize.

"We are not legally permitted to blanket surveil/ALPR entire neighborhoods/towns, etc. ...

... and we can't pay a private company to do this for us ...

... but nothing prevents us from paying a private company who is doing it already, to give us that data."

The line between the last two is blurry but also utilized - you can't put out an RFP for a company to capture such data that you're not permitted to, but if that company is doing it because it sees a/your market for it, then it's a free-for-all.

1970-01-01•48m ago
This is just step 1 of many. The lawyers at Fluck will appeal. I know what I typed.
shawn_w•31m ago
If you're out driving on public roads do you really have any expectation of privacy? Anybody can take a picture of your car...

Another non-paywalled article on the case: https://www.king5.com/article/news/investigations/investigat...

calmbonsai•24m ago
Courts have found that scale and intent matter.

An offhand picture by a private individual is OK, but a large scale organized hoovering of personally identifying information is not OK.

The finding is also the denial of an exemption appeal which has a much lower legal threshold to clear.

Wistar•12m ago
There are quite a few private Flock camera installations (HOA, neighborhood, business) in my locale. I assume those are exempt from FOIA requests but wonder if law enforcement can access that data.
tptacek•4m ago
Those private installations are almost certainly not subject to FOIA (they wouldn't be in Illinois, hard to see how they would be in any state). Without a court order, none of them should be exposed to law enforcement, though there might be opt-out features that have that effect.

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Judge denies request to exempt Flock footage from Public Records Act

https://www.goskagit.com/news/local_news/court-denies-request-that-it-find-flock-safety-camera-da...
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