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ICE Offers Up to $280M to Immigrant-Tracking 'Bounty Hunter' Firms

https://www.wired.com/story/ice-bounty-hunter-spy-program/
102•zzzeek•1h ago

Comments

Y-bar•1h ago
So, the Henneicke Column returns…
Terr_•34m ago
TIL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henneicke_Column

> a group of Dutch Nazi collaborators [...] in Amsterdam, during the Nazi Germany occupation of the Netherlands in World War II. [...] The bounty paid to Henneicke Column members for each captured Jew was 7.50 guilders (equivalent to about US $4.75).

For the curious, adjusting for inflation that's ~$91, insofar as they may have had a profit motive, I wonder if they supplemental that by looting.

cinntaile•32m ago
These people are deported out of the country and not slowly murdered in a concentration camp, which is a massive difference.
giraffe_lady•19m ago
The institution the henneicke column was under was the "center for jewish emigration" btw.
halfmatthalfcat•19m ago
What do you think is happening to the people who are deported? Maybe not murdered explicitly but they're definitely not having the red carpet rolled out in whatever country they land in. The US is looking for any suitor country to take "illegals" and don't care what happens after, be it for bad or worse, rarely "better".
Larrikin•16m ago
There are people from and not from El Salvador that are being sent to a concentration camp there. We don't know what is happening to people being sent to other random countries.
rfrey•8m ago
Outsourcing is the American Way.
visioninmyblood•1h ago
Wow that is crazy may be YC next funded company will be on this. But there are so many ethical considereations here. Tracking immigrant means they will track citizens as well. We need to see how these companies are moderated
throwawaygmbno•1h ago
If we make it to another election, it will be good to track the people who take up this offer
tecleandor•36m ago
You mean, the ethical considerations are about tracking citizens only?
dontlaugh•7m ago
Same as IBM’s ethical considerations when selling to the Nazis. This isn’t new behaviour.
an0malous•57m ago
This will be flagged off the front page within 30 minutes
hypeatei•42m ago
Along with the "both sides!!" and the "we're just enforcing immigration law" commenters showing up.
zzzeek•29m ago
i dont see why, hacker news is loaded with enthusiastic young entrepreneurs and I posted this thinking some brilliant protege of Peter Thiel would be inspired to "disrupt" the "surveilling and abducting people" industry with the promise of a $280M reward....
an0malous•27m ago
29 minutes later and it is #37 with 86 points, off the front page
nine_zeros•56m ago
America is a third world thug state where people are being targeted just because...they showed up on a computer system.
rkuska•3m ago
Your comment reminded me of "Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Blaise Bailey Finnegan III":

> Like I said, America's a third world country as it is and... and we're just basically in a hopeless situation as it stands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP8XBJc2p_g

I keep GY!BE playing on repeat for the past several months.

tiahura•52m ago
It seems like tracking down 10M+ people would cost more than $280M.
actionfromafar•47m ago
"in favor of a no-cap program" combined with coming huge budget increases will adress that I'm sure.

Hunting people for commission is back in vogue. Now flag this article, it's about the intersection of society and technology.

fanatic2pope•43m ago
> Contractors may now earn up to $281.25 million individually and are guaranteed an initial task order worth at least $7.5 million.

The rates are per contractor.

throwaway1389z•43m ago
This whole program is a variation of "The Process is the punishment". Regardless of what your opinion of immigration is, this is all just politicking and power-grabbing. Under that light, you will see that it is M$280 for fear mongering more than actual deportation efforts.
actionfromafar•35m ago
Not just! This will create a whole concentration camp construction industry downstream of the arrests.

The logistics are just impossible unless you build massive camps.

throwaway1389z•16m ago
Not going to happen, even if purely for the economic reasons. Unless the Captain is willing to gamble the whole enterprise.
givemeethekeys•50m ago
There's even a bounty to report your neighbors.
daheza•49m ago
I wonder what position Apple will take on this. You can't trace ICE agents (IceBlock app)

But will ICE be able to track immigrants using whatever Apps are created here?

Scary times we live in. Stay safe everyone.

stackghost•46m ago
Too often on this site you see the opinion "keep politics out of it" expressed.

But there are going to be software engineers working at these surveillance and tracking firms, probably some on this site.

Just like there are people here getting paid to work on Facebook or Instagram despite knowing deep down (even if they're in denial) that those products are profoundly harmful to society at large and young people in particular.

Technology is only becoming more intertwined with daily life, not less. When does the software industry develop scruples?

surgical_fire•30m ago
I hate this stance.

Demand scruples from the common man while the billionaire overlords who are actually the major beneficiaries are off the hook.

RicoElectrico•25m ago
SWEs are everything but common people, they're a good paying profession still.
stackghost•14m ago
Billionaires are already above the law because common people are too scared/comfortable to eat the rich.
RicoElectrico•28m ago
There was an article a few weeks ago on the HN front page (regarding artists) that today the concept of someone being a sellout doesn't exist anymore.
collinmcnulty•37m ago
I am reminded of Eisenhower's Chance for Peace Speech: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_for_Peace_speech

baiac•31m ago
Eisenhower launched Operation Wetback, so you can tell what he actually thought about this.
bcrosby95•27m ago
Yeah, people aren't cartoon super heroes or super villains. People are messy. People are nuanced. You can't summarize them in a 1,000 word article much less a 10 word title.
munk-a•35m ago
This an excellent example of a program that'll print money for fraudsters while also supporting a policy with arbitrary and cruel quotas.

Oh how far we've wandered from that old promise of "small government".

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