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Let go of StackOverflow; communities must take ownership

https://ahelwer.ca/post/2025-11-25-stackoverflow/
23•tensegrist•4d ago

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cadamsdotcom•58m ago
Love the idea but getting people to move to another platform requires both

- "nothing about the new thing is worse"

and

- "some things are better".

Any migration must also defeat social network effects ("I'll wait for everyone else before I migrate")

Still it is exciting to see energy for this.

Would be great to know what (if any) alternatives exist with a similar UI to Stack Overflow - open source or other.

jodrellblank•51m ago
"I don't understand stackoverflow. Someone closed my question and it hurt so I'm going to write 'hilarious' insults about them. They are control freaks who can't stand something existing which isn't exactly how they want it. Anyway, StackOverflow doesn't work how I imagined so I want everyone to close it down. But not the Arch forums, we can be mean to people who deserve it because we are truly amazing. I mean uh 'they' not 'we'.".
bolangi•49m ago
I don't know what TLA+ is, but thanks for an entertaining rant, and the excerpt from Heller's timeless book.
JonChesterfield•5m ago
Usually temporal logic of actions. Lamport's thing. Extremely worth a look.
krater23•46m ago
This comes some years too late. Who is really using StackOverflow to ask questions? I know that ChatGPT can answer all questions that StackOverflow can answer in a fast, friendly and nearby as correct way. It has limitations, but the most people on StackOverflow are jsut doing the same than ChatGPT, just repeat after other people. All this things will be gone soon.
jibal•25m ago
ChatGPT can provide the same answers SO can because it mined SO as part of its training data.
busymom0•17m ago
I still use SO to ask questions. In fact, just asked a question couple days ago which ChatGPT couldn't answer, nor has anyone on SO been able to:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79831192/multi-line-titl...

JonChesterfield•3m ago
Well, SO is only read by scrapers these days so no answers doesn't mean much. Could be the question is unsolvable, could be lots of people know the answer and won't see it because you've written it in a graveyard.

edit: thought I'd try to check that belief but the process for getting SO to show me any information involves enough layers of question boxes and captions that I've kind of got the confirmation by giving up in annoyance.

Gualdrapo•7m ago
As a ConTeXt user I use to ask questions on SO from time to time because (1) the wiki can be outdated or incoherent; and (2) I get lost on the mailing list, which is the other way you can ask stuff or get help about ConTeXt. I don't see ChatGPT or something like that catching up about something so niche fairly soon, though
Animats•34m ago
I just had that kind of experience, but with Stack Exchange.

The Ubuntu people seem to have recently pushed to users a new version of the CUPS printer scheduler that doesn't like the syntax of some old cupsd.conf files. This breaks all printing on affected machines.

So where are the bug reports? Stack Exchange. Nobody over there is going to fix it. This needs to be discussed on Ubuntu Forums, where the maintainers might read it. For now, I posted similar discussions on the CUPS forum and Ubuntu's own forum, and linked them to each other. There's a finger-pointing problem coming up - is this a CUPS bug or a Ubuntu bug? (What writes the cupsd.conf file anyway? Ubuntu Settings?) I don't want to file a bug report until the finger-pointing phase has commentary from people who actually know the innards of Linux printing, or I'll get shot down by one side blaming the other. Let those guys fight it out.

andai•25m ago
The other day I saw an answer on StackOverflow which was very detailed, well researched, and grounded in decades of experience.

It was also heavily downvoted, because it did not directly answer the user's question. (The user had already selected a winning answer, so this was in some sense unnecessary.)

It struck me that a single scalar for quality was inappropriate here. It was the best post I'd read in a long time, but by the site's rules indeed "deserved" the downvotes.

I had to wonder if a multidimensional system (tags like "answers question" and "general context" etc.) would work better. You know... the stuff every social media site figured out twenty years ago? ;)

---

Tangential but the more I think about it, the more I think we had the web basically right twenty years ago...

You subscribed to what you wanted to see.. and then sometimes you'd find really cool new things through mentions or the comments section.

I was thinking about signal to noise ratio and taste recently and realized I'd reinvented RSS from first principles...

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