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Google denies 'misleading' reports of Gmail using your emails to train AI

https://www.theverge.com/news/826902/gmail-ai-training-data-opt-out
24•causenad•1h ago

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agluszak•36m ago
> Enabling the feature in Workspace says that “you agree to let Google Workspace use your Workspace content and activity to personalize your experience across Workspace,” according to the settings page, but according to Google, that does not mean handing over the content of your emails to use for AI training.

Google be like: "trust me bro"

simonw•23m ago
User-facing software is full of language like that these days and I find it really frustrating, because it never helps answer the questions attentive people actually have, like will that mean my emails get dumped into the next Gemini training run?
criddell•16m ago
If you are using Google Workspace you decided to trust them a while ago.
ljlolel•32m ago
Some people worked on this. They don’t train on it directly. They use AI to rewrite the content “privacy-safe” then train on that….
LightBug1•13m ago
That sounds very "privacy safe" ...
konart•23m ago
Poor AI, reading all those ad emails...
tietjens•23m ago
The only reason I am still using gmail is due to choice paralysis. I do not know which email service to choose and pay for. I do not like Proton. Is Fastmail the way to go? There is also the German one posteo. Should I just use Apple's mail? I'm taking suggestions if you have anything to share.
bonaldi•18m ago
Fastmail is the way. These are people for whom email is their job and focus and you get everything that comes with that, including good and responsive customer service.
tokai•2m ago
But their servers are in the US.
bwg2000•16m ago
Another vote for Fastmail. Cannot fault, and honestly a joy to use (if that’s possible checking your email).
dontlaugh•14m ago
The first step is to get your own domain. You can set that up in Apple Mail at first if it’s most convenient. Then you can get everything moved over.

After that it’s much easier to move provider again.

robinhoodexe•11m ago
I've been using mailbox.org for 5 years and like it very much. Cost some 3 EUR per month (actually there's a 50% discount this week).

Dead simple email that just works. Their webUI is fine, but I almost exclusively use it on iOS or macOS with the default mail app. They also have some other features (calendar, office suite, video calls) that I don't use. I really like the option to create up to 25 email aliases.

wowamit•11m ago
I was always afraid to switch from Gmail, knowing the impact it would have. But I switched to Fastmail this year and my experience has been comparatively frictionless. My fear was unfounded.
robin_reala•7m ago
I’m happy with https://soverin.net/ – they’re EU based, reasonably priced, and I only use them with external clients anyway.
lionkor•1m ago
I use fastmail for my and my family's mail, with many domains. It works fantastically, the android app and web app are very good, and it allows any settings, forwarding, clients, automation that I could think of.

The other features (files, file sharing, calendar) are also well designed and get out of your way.

wowamit•13m ago
With so many settings spread across multiple sections, especially in Workspace accounts, it's challenging to keep track of how existing settings are affected by each new addition. I generally review these regularly, yet find surprises now and then.

Knowing what setting does what in Gmail is becoming difficult by the day.

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