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Don't throw away your old PC–it makes a better NAS than anything you can buy

https://www.howtogeek.com/turned-old-windows-pc-into-inexpensive-nas/
22•makerdiety•56m ago

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superkuh•28m ago
While there are use cases for NAS, generally, if you have a desktop PC it's far better to put the hard drives in it rather than setting up a second computer you have to turn on and run too. Putting the storage in the computer where you'll use it means it'll be much faster, much cheaper, incomparably more reliable, with a more natural UI, and it'll use less eletricity than having to run 2 computers.

Now if your NAS use case is streaming media files to multiple devices (TV set top boxes, etc), sure, NAS makes sense if the NAS you build is very low idle power. But if you just need the storage for actual computing it is a waste of time and money.

lateforwork•23m ago
Unfortunately PCs have mechanical devices that give out after a few years. I am referring of course to fans. I use a Raspberry Pi 4 running Ubuntu and Samba as my NAS. It is cheap and reliable.
eloisius•14m ago
I do too, but I’m looking to get proper solution soon. A Pi is a pretty lousy NAS. It can’t even power two drives so you can’t have redundancy unless you get a powered USB hub. And even then, I used one of those for a while and the drive connected to it prematurely failed. I think maybe because the power supply wasn’t stable.
strken•12m ago
I've had more SD cards die on me than fans. I don't think any have died in the past five years, even.
PaulHoule•9m ago
I can’t remember replacing fans because they stopped spinning but I have EOLed them because the bearings went bad and they started to screech.
gilrain•4m ago
Is there a particular brand you buy? Mine always fail after about 5 years… and I try a new brand each time. Not cheap fans, either; usually $15-20 per 120mm unit.
NikolaNovak•20m ago
I appreciate the message of this article. I've played with half a dozen types of home NAS / RAID / storage solutions over the decades.

The best way I can describe it is:

There are people who just want to use a car to get from A to B; there are those who enjoy the act of driving, maybe take it to the track on a lapping day; and there are those who enjoy having a shell of a car in the garage and working on it. There's of course a definite overlap and Venn diagram :-).

My approach / suggestion - Understand what type are you in relation to any given technology vs what is the author's perspective.

I will never resent the time (oh God so much time!) I've spent in the past mucking with homelabs and storage systems. Good memories and tons of learning! today I have family and kids and just need my storage to work. I'm in a different Venn circle than the author - sure I have knowledge and experience and could conceivably save a few bucks (eh not as given as articles make it seem;), as long as I value my time appropriately low and don't mind the necessary upkeep and potential scheduled and unscheduled "maintenance windows" to my non-techie users.

But I must admit I'm in the turn-key solution phase of my life and have cheerfully enjoyed a big-name NAS over last 5 years or so :).

The trick with old computers harnessed as NAS is the often increased space, power, and setup/patching/maintenance work requirements, compared to hopefully some learning experience and a sense of control.

neogodless•19m ago
I've self-hosted web apps (typically IIS and SQL Server) for over 20 years.

While using desktops for this has sometimes been nice, the big things I want out of a server are

- low power usage when running 24/7

- reliable operation

- quiet operation

- performance but they don't need much

So I've had dual Xeon servers and 8-core Ryzen servers but my favorites are a miniForums with a mobile Ryzen quad core, and my UGREEN NAS. They check all the boxes for server / NAS. Plus both were under $300 before upgrades / storage drives.

Often my previous gaming desktop sells for a lot more than that ... I just sold my 4 year old video card for $220. Not sure what the rest of the machine will be used for, but it's not a good server because the 12-core CPU simply isn't power efficient enough.

newsclues•9m ago
Find a cheap low power CPU to swap in. Or tune it in BIOS to use less power (some CPUs have an eco mode that make this easy).

Sell the gaming GPU and put in something that does video out, or use a CPU with an iGPU.

Big gaming cases with quiet fans are quiet.

Selling the GPU and tuning or swapping the CPU can put money in your pocket to pay for storage.

neogodless•6m ago
It is water-cooled and whisper quiet aside from the GPU fans. So yes there are options.. but right now selling the RAM alone might pay for a whole mini-server. I'm going to try to sell it locally to a PC gamer though, get some proper use out of it!
hexbin010•8m ago
The UGREEN NAS OS doesn't do encryption right?
iammjm•17m ago
“I repurposed an old gaming PC with a Ryzen 1600x, 24GB of RAM, and an old GTX 1060 for my NAS since I had most of the parts already.”

Wouldn’t running something like this 24/7 cause a substantial energy consumption? Costs of electricity being one thing, carbon footprint an another. Do we really want such a setup running in each household in addition to X other devices?

dijit•15m ago
sure, but the co2 emissions from a new machine would take about 10 years to offset, by which time this thinking has made you replace it.. twice.

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