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Gary Tan claims Zoho will be out of business due to vibe coding

https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1995664097007091818
29•manojlds•1h ago

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da_grift_shift•46m ago
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joshstrange•24m ago
I feel like I've seen his name a few times but I don't know much about him at all but I can tell you from that 1 tweet he has no clue what he is talking about.

Bozo bit flipped.

I don't use Zoho but I've played with it before, the thought that you can vibe code up something like that (which is reliable) is laughable.

From the title I thought they were saying that /using/ vibe coding at Zoho would lead to them going out of business (something much more plausible).

jonners00•22m ago
He runs Y combinator. This is his site!
joshstrange•13m ago
I stand by what I said. To think Zoho or companies like it will be out of business due to vibe coding tools is absurd given what's currently available.

I guess this is just yet another YC ceo/whatever that I care little for (See also: Sam Altman).

itg•13m ago
Amazing how someone so clueless can be in a such an influential position.
giancarlostoro•12m ago
Really everyone thinks of it as Paul Graham (and dang's I suppose...) site I do wonder if the CEO of YC even comes on here much? I assume PG does not come on here much outside of viewing threads here and there.
joshstrange•10m ago
This.

If I think about who's "site" HN is then PG or Dang are front of mind. I know Dang is /just/ a mod but he is who is visible. I've never once cared who actually ran YC, I didn't care when Sam Altman ran it and I don't care about Gary Tan either, they are 100% immaterial to the discussions that happen on this site IMHO.

q3k•7m ago
And I'm here to clown on him and his kind.
SanjayMehta•6m ago
Aha.

Explains a lot.

giarc•14m ago
Will they lose a small customer or two to custom vibe coded solutions, yes. Will they be "competed away" due to vibe coding, definitely not.

You have to remember that no one gets fired for selecting an established software provider. Zoho is a 'safe' pick for SMBs because you know it will work compared to some custom CRM that Bill from accounting vibe coded in an afternoon.

hombre_fatal•11m ago
He will be right at some point. The question is when.

I'm already vibe coding complex things like GUIs, my desktop environment (NixOS), and last week a Wayland layer shell client that would have taken me quite a lot of work if I had to do them myself from scratch from docs, and I have 20 years of software experience.

The things I spend time building and polishing today with my own time are just next year's vibe-coded minutia.

Some people are going to have a very hard time swallowing this pill, though.

mns•10m ago
Considering how much money they invested in countless AI VS Code forks and other vibe coding platforms, he needs to hype up the market.
yoavm•8m ago
> Why pay $30/seat/month for over bundled SaaS when soon even nontech ops ppl can vibe-code a custom solution in a weekend?

I don't get his suggestion. I'm paying Zoho for email hosting. What am I even supposed to vibe-code successfully for me to drop Zoho? There's no shortage of open-source IMAP/SMTP servers, in fact Zoho is probably using them too. Sure I can spin one myself, but I'm paying for Zoho for the *service*, not the software.

francisofascii•7m ago
[delayed]
antiloper•6m ago
Obviously not? Accounting software has to work or the IRS (or your local equivalent) will come after you. Zoho "just works".
andsoitis•5m ago
> competed away by people building their own custom software built by people using @Replit @emergentlabs and @Taskade

Why do you need 3 platforms to vibe code a solution? Are each one of them not good enough?

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