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UniFi 5G

https://blog.ui.com/article/introducing-unifi-5g
104•janandonly•2h ago•66 comments

Netflix’s AV1 Journey: From Android to TVs and Beyond

https://netflixtechblog.com/av1-now-powering-30-of-netflix-streaming-02f592242d80
374•CharlesW•9h ago•175 comments

Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

75•bakigul•1h ago•30 comments

I have been writing a niche history blog for 15 years

https://resobscura.substack.com/p/why-i-have-been-writing-a-niche-history
102•benbreen•15h ago•15 comments

Trick users and bypass warnings – Modern SVG Clickjacking attacks

https://lyra.horse/blog/2025/12/svg-clickjacking/
197•spartanatreyu•9h ago•30 comments

BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

https://evclinic.eu/2025/12/04/2021-phev-bmw-ibmucp-21f37e-post-crash-recovery-when-eu-engineerin...
264•mikelabatt•8h ago•216 comments

Show HN: Tacopy – Tail Call Optimization for Python

https://github.com/raaidrt/tacopy
32•raaid-rt•5d ago•7 comments

After 40 years of adventure games, Ron Gilbert pivots to outrunning Death

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/12/after-40-years-of-adventure-games-ron-gilbert-pivots-to-ou...
79•mikhael•3d ago•27 comments

Rats Snatching Bats Out of the Air and Eating Them–Researchers Got It on Video

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-are-snatching-bats-out-of-the-air-and-eating-them-...
52•bookofjoe•5h ago•5 comments

Show HN: I was reintroduced to computers: Raspberry Pi

https://airoboticist.blog/2025/12/01/i-was-reintroduced-to-computers-raspberry-pi/
24•observer2022•3d ago•6 comments

Cloudflare is down

https://www.cloudflare.com/
665•mektrik•1h ago•403 comments

Transparent leadership beats servant leadership

https://entropicthoughts.com/transparent-leadership-beats-servant-leadership
439•ibobev•20h ago•203 comments

At IT School with Apple Lisa

https://blisscast.wordpress.com/2024/06/04/apple-lisa-gui-wonderland-3/
20•fabiojava•1w ago•1 comments

NeurIPS 2025 Best Paper Awards

https://blog.neurips.cc/2025/11/26/announcing-the-neurips-2025-best-paper-awards/
100•ivansavz•8h ago•14 comments

Multivox: Volumetric Display

https://github.com/AncientJames/multivox
273•jk_tech•17h ago•38 comments

How elites could shape mass preferences as AI reduces persuasion costs

https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.04047
569•50kIters•1d ago•531 comments

Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-05/warner-bros-is-said-to-begin-exclusive-deal-ta...
45•mfiguiere•6h ago•101 comments

CSS now has an if() conditional function

https://caniuse.com/?search=if
132•aanthonymax•5d ago•70 comments

CUDA-l2: Surpassing cuBLAS performance for matrix multiplication through RL

https://github.com/deepreinforce-ai/CUDA-L2
113•dzign•12h ago•11 comments

StardustOS: Library operating system for building light-weight Unikernels

https://github.com/StardustOS
77•transpute•11h ago•5 comments

What's the deal with Euler's identity?

https://lcamtuf.substack.com/p/whats-the-deal-with-eulers-identity
26•surprisetalk•5d ago•19 comments

State Department to deny visas to fact checkers and others, citing 'censorship'

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/04/nx-s1-5633444/trump-content-moderation-visas-censorship
158•seattle_spring•5h ago•79 comments

Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

https://reason.com/2025/12/04/why-are-38-percent-of-stanford-students-saying-theyre-disabled/
634•delichon•15h ago•860 comments

Fast trigram based code search

https://github.com/sourcegraph/zoekt
30•cv_h•6h ago•2 comments

Fighting the age-gated internet

https://www.wired.com/story/age-verification-is-sweeping-the-us-activists-are-fighting-back/
225•geox•20h ago•195 comments

Thoughts on Go vs. Rust vs. Zig

https://sinclairtarget.com/blog/2025/08/thoughts-on-go-vs.-rust-vs.-zig/
345•yurivish•12h ago•413 comments

I ignore the spotlight as a staff engineer

https://lalitm.com/software-engineering-outside-the-spotlight/
481•todsacerdoti•22h ago•220 comments

Show HN: Onlyrecipe 2.0 – I added all features HN requested – 4 years later

https://onlyrecipeapp.com/?url=https://www.allrecipes.com/turkish-pasta-recipe-8754903
161•AwkwardPanda•18h ago•136 comments

What is better: a lookup table or an enum type?

https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com/en/lookup-table-or-enum-type/
41•todsacerdoti•10h ago•16 comments

State of AI: An Empirical 100T Token Study with OpenRouter

https://openrouter.ai/state-of-ai
184•anjneymidha•11h ago•82 comments
Open in hackernews

Cloudflare is down

https://www.cloudflare.com/
662•mektrik•1h ago

Comments

kaliqt•1h ago
NPM is down as a result.
chokominto•53m ago
Craaazzzyy
mercurialsolo•1h ago
As is supabase
Andugal•1h ago
Notion is also down as a result
arunaugustine•1h ago
Shopify is down.
Geep5•1h ago
Claude RIP
dinoqqq•1h ago
LinkedIn, Perplexity as well
mercurialsolo•1h ago
shopify.com
xyproto•1h ago
Yes.

Weird that https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ isn't reporting this properly. It should be full of red blinking lights.

csomar•1h ago
> In progress - Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary. Dec 05, 2025 - 07:00 UTC

Something must have gone really wrong.

shafyy•1h ago
Life hack: Announce bug that brings your entire network down as scheduled maintenance.
headmelted•1h ago
It's 1AM in San Francisco right now. I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince and wake him up for this one. And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this.
csomar•56m ago
> And I feel really bad for the person that forgot a closing brace in whatever config file did this.

If a closing brace take your whole infra. down, my guess is that we'll see more of this.

artlovecode•53m ago
Agreed, I feel bad for them. But mostly because cloudflare's workflows are so bad that you're seemingly repeatedly set up for really public failures. Like how does this keep happening without leadership's heads rolling. The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality
esseph•33m ago
> The culture clearly is not fit for their level of criticality

I don't think anyone's is.

viraptor•45m ago
> I don't envy the person having to call Matthew Prince

They shouldn't need to do that unless they're really disorganised. CEOs are not there for day to day operations.

mikkom•1h ago
Company internal status pages are always like this. When you don't report problems they don't exist!
chironjit•1h ago
Yeah, their status site reports nothing but then clicking on some of the links on that site bring you the 500 error
63stack•1h ago
This is just business as usual, status pages are 95% for show now. The data center would have to be under water for the status page to say "some users might be experiencing disruptions".
csomar•1h ago
They just did an update, and it is bad (in the sense that they are not realizing their clients are down?)

> Investigating - Cloudflare is investigating issues with Cloudflare Dashboard and related APIs.

> These issues do not affect the serving of cached files via the Cloudflare CDN or other security features at the Cloudflare Edge.

> Customers using the Dashboard / Cloudflare APIs are impacted as requests might fail and/or errors may be displayed.

Eikon•59m ago
> (in the sense that they are not realizing their clients are down?)

Their own website seems down too https://www.cloudflare.com/

--

500 Internal Server Error

cloudflare

mikkom•53m ago
>Customers using the Dashboard / Cloudflare APIs are impacted as requests might fail and/or errors may be displayed.

"Might fail"

yapyap•50m ago
well it does say that now, so…

which datacenter got flooded?

rvnx•33m ago
> In progress - Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary. Dec 05, 2025 - 09:00 UTC

It's a scheduled maintenance, so SLA should not apply right ?

tommek4077•1h ago
Yes, it’s really ‘weird’ that they refuse to share any details. Completely unlike AWS, for example. As if being open about issues with their own product wouldn’t be in their best interest. /s
darccio•1h ago
https://updog.ai/status/cloudflare reported the incident 13 minutes ago (at the moment of writing this).
jonathanlydall•1h ago
Now showing a message, posted at 08:56 UTC.
fxd123•1h ago
> Investigating - Cloudflare is investigating issues with Cloudflare Dashboard and related APIs.

They seem to now, a few min after your comment

redm•54m ago
Im much more concerned with customer sites being down which indicates are not impacted. They are.. :/
javier2•1h ago
Yeah. I only work for a small company, but you can be certain we will not update the status page if only a small portion of customers are affected, and if we are fully down, rest assured there will be no available hands to keep the status page updated
s_dev•51m ago
>rest assured there will be no available hands to keep the status page updated

That's not how status pages if implemented correctly work. The real reason status pages aren't updated is SLAs. If you agree on a contract to have 99.99% uptime your status page better reflect that or it invalidates many contracts. This is why AWS also lies about it's uptime and status page.

These services rarely experience outages according their own figures but rather 'degraded performance' or some other language that talks around the issue rather than acknowledging it.

It's like when buying a house you need an independent surveyor not the one offered by the developer/seller to check for problems with foundations or rotting timber.

8cvor6j844qw_d6•50m ago
I imagine there will be many levels of "approvals" to get the status page actually showing down, since SLA uptime contracts is involved.
lucianbr•46m ago
Are the contracts so easy to bypass? Who signs a contract with an SLA knowing the service provider will just lie about the availability? Is the client supposed to sue the provider any time there is an SLA breach?
netdevphoenix•41m ago
Anyone who doesn't have any choice financially or gnostically. Same reason why people pay Netflix despite the low quality of most of their shows and the constant termination of tv series after 1 season. Same reason why people put up with Meta not caring about moderating or harmful content. The power dynamics resemble a monopoly
ozim•29m ago
Most of services are not really critical but customers want to have 99.999% on the paper.

Most of the time people will just get by and ignore even full day of downtime as minor inconvenience. Loss of revenue for the day - well you most likely will have to eat that, because going to court and having lawyers fighting over it most likely will cost you as much as just forgetting about it.

If your company goes bankrupt because AWS/Cloudflare/GCP/Azure is down for a day or two - guess what - you won't have money to sue them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and most likely will have bunch of more pressing problems on your hand.

immibis•34m ago
The company that is trying to cancel its contract early needs to prove the SLA was violated, which is very easy of the company providing the service also provides a page that says their SLA was violated. Otherwise it's much harder to prove.
heipei•29m ago
The client is supposed to monitor availability themselves, that is how these contracts work.
laurent123456•45m ago
This is weird - at this level contracts are supposed to be rock solid so why wouldn't they require accurate status reporting? That's trivial to implement, and you can even require to have it on a neutral third-party like UptimeRobot and be done with it.

I'm sure there are gray areas in such contracts but something being down or not is pretty black and white.

remus•35m ago
> I'm sure there are gray areas in such contracts but something being down or not is pretty black and white.

Is it? Say you've got some big geographically distributed service doing some billions of requests per day with a background error rate of 0.0001%, what's your threshold for saying whether the service is up or down? Your error rate might go to 0.0002% because a particular customer has an issue so that customer would say it's down for them, but for all your other customers it would be working as normal.

franga2000•34m ago
> something being down or not is pretty black and white

This is so obviously not true that I'm not sure if you're even being serious.

Is the control panel being inaccessible for one region "down"? Is their DNS "down" if the edit API doesn't work, but existing records still get resolved? Is their reverse proxy service "down" if it's still proxying fine, just not caching assets?

javier2•43m ago
I work for a small company. We have no written SLA agreements.
redm•37m ago
SLA’s usually just give you a small credit for the exact period of the incident, which is arymetric to the impact. We always have to negotiate for termination rights for failing to meet SLA standards but, in reality, we never exercise them.

Reality is that in an incident, everyone is focused on fixing issue, not updating status pages; automated checks fail or have false positives often too. :/

lawnchair•49m ago
I have to say that if an incident becomes so overwhelming that nobody can spare even a moment to communicate with customers, that points to a deeper operational problem. A status page is not something you update only when things are calm. It is part of the response itself. It is how you keep users informed and maintain trust when everything else is going wrong.

If communication disappears entirely during an outage, the whole operation suffers. And if that is truly how a company handles incidents, then it is not a practice I would want to rely on. Good operations teams build processes that protect both the system and the people using it. Communication is one of those processes.

GoblinSlayer•46m ago
You won't be able to update the status page due to failures anyway.
onion2k•37m ago
if we are fully down, rest assured there will be no available hands to keep the status page updated

There is no quicker way for customers to lose trust in your service than it to be down and for them to not know that you're aware and trying to fix it as quickly as possible. One of the things Cloudflare gets right is the frequent public updates when there's a problem.

You should give someone the responsibility for keeping everyone up to date during an incident. It's a good idea to give that task to someone quite junior - they're not much help during the crisis, and they learn a lot about both the tech and communication by managing it.

hinkley•55m ago
They were intending to start a maintenance window starting 6 minutes ago, but they were already down by then.
dinoqqq•54m ago
There is an update:

"Cloudflare Dashboard and Cloudflare API service issues"

Investigating - Cloudflare is investigating issues with Cloudflare Dashboard and related APIs.

Customers using the Dashboard / Cloudflare APIs are impacted as requests might fail and/or errors may be displayed. Dec 05, 2025 - 08:56 UTC

rollulus•52m ago
Not weird, that’s tradition by now.
jachee•52m ago
Management is always going to take too long (in an engineer’s opinion) to manually throw the alerts on. They’re pressing people for quick fixes so they can claim their SLAs are intact.
rvz•51m ago
The AI agents can't help out on this time.
rifycombine1•44m ago
maybe we can back to stackoverflow :)
Havoc•51m ago
It’s wild how non of the big corporations can make a functional status page
dncornholio•49m ago
They can. They don't want to though.
javier2•43m ago
They could, but accurate reporting is not good for their SLAs
jbuild•50m ago
Interesting, I get a 500 if I try to visit coinbase.com, but my WebSocket connections to advanced-trade-ws.coinbase.com are still live with no issues.
emakarov•46m ago
probably these websockets are not going through cloudflare
tjpnz•45m ago
They have enough data to at least automate yellow.
devmor•29m ago
Yes, the incident report claims this was limited to their client dashboard. It most certainly was not. I have the PagerDuty alerts to prove it...
headmelted•1h ago
Claude offline too. 500 errors on the web and the mobile app has been knocked out.
lionkor•59m ago
I had to switch to Gemini for it to help me form a thought so I could type this reply. Its dire.
mercurialsolo•1h ago
claude code works tho
sammy2255•1h ago
500 internal server error on most things:

500 Internal Server Error cloudflare

pzs•1h ago
Just experienced this and came here to check, because even their website is down. The referenced link also returns with 500.
headmelted•1h ago
"In progress - Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary. Dec 05, 2025 - 07:00 UTC"

No need. Yikes.

imperfectfourth•1h ago
downdetector is also down
maxlin•1h ago
it being the first google result and serving the exact same error as the pages one is trying to get info from is too funny
AmateurAlert•1h ago
https://downdetector.com/ classic
26d0•1h ago
hmm... https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com/

(edit: it's working now (detecting downdetector's down))

aurareturn•1h ago
Ehh, so down detector for down detector is up but it is inaccurate.
xyproto•1h ago
A wrong downdetectordowntector is worse than a 500 one. :D
deveesh_shetty•1h ago
You had one job.
Andugal•1h ago
So DownDetector is down, but DownDetectorDownDetector does not detect it... We probably need one more DownDetector. (no)
halgir•1h ago
We have one. But according to Down Detector's Down Detector's Down Detector's Down Detector, that's also down.
Dilettante_•57m ago
Well Down Detector's Down Detector isn't down...What we might need is a Down Detector's Down Detector Validator
namjh•1h ago
Yes we do have[^1] but unfortunately it looks like not checking the integrity, just reachability.

[1]: https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com/

manyaoman•1h ago
So down²detector was fake all along?
andy_ppp•1h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC06Z6lCB_Q
vanyauhalin•1h ago
So,

This one is green: https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com

This one is not openning: https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com

This one is red: https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector....

Recursing•54m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_softwar...
mrducksy•40m ago
It’s down detectors all the way down!
superdisk•39m ago
Lol. The fact that the 4x one actually works and is correctly reporting that the 3x one is down actually makes this a lot funnier to me.
altmanaltman•38m ago
it's like they didn't fully think it through/expect people to actually use it so soon
ssolarsystem1•35m ago
downdetectorsdowndetectors didn't detect breakdown of downdetectors with 500 Error
aroman•1h ago
great news, schrodingersdetector.com is available!
maxlin•1h ago
>half the internet is down >downdetector is down >downdetector down detector reports everything is fine

software was a mistake

O4epegb•59m ago
This is a fake detector that just has frontend logic for mocking realistic data, you can easily see it in the source code.
xx_ns•1h ago
At least it's still right in spite of being down.
strangeness•1h ago
Who knows, maybe it will be because of C or C++ this time. Or something else.
piker•1h ago
At least the 500 error announces ownership.

Imagine how productive we'll be now!

rvz•1h ago
Round 2 of Cloudflare outages.

We can now see which companies have failed in their performative systems design interviews.

Looking forward to the post-mortem.

sharts•1h ago
HaHa -Nelson
csomar•1h ago
Interestingly, my site running on workers https://codeinput.com is still functioning. Worth mentioning that I don't use Cloudflare firewall/caching (directly exposed workers)
c16•1h ago
CloudFlare: You can't go down if you're never up.
pm90•1h ago
This is not good. One major outage? Something exceptional. Several outages in a short time? As someone thats worked in operations, I have empathy; there are so many “temp havks” that are put in place for incidents. but the rest of the world won’t… they’re gonna suffer a massive reputation loss if this goes on as long as the last one.
karmakurtisaani•1h ago
Probably fired a lot of their best people in the past few years and replaced it with AI. They have a de-facto monopoly, so we'll just accept it and wait patiently until they fix the problem. You know, business as usual in the grift economy.
5d41402abc4b•44m ago
>They have a de-facto monopoly

On what? There are lots of CDN providers out there.

immibis•33m ago
There's only one that lets everyone sign up for free.
esseph•29m ago
They do fare more than just CDN. It's the combination of service, features, reach, price, and the integration of it all.
rvz•42m ago
The "AI agents" are on holiday when an outage like this happens.
PlotCitizen•1h ago
This is a good reminder for everyone to reconsider making all of their websites depend on a single centralized point of failure. There are many alternatives to the different services which Cloudflare offers.
koakuma-chan•53m ago
My Cloudflare Pages website works fine.
coffeebeqn•48m ago
We just love to merge the internet into single points of failure
phatfish•7m ago
This is just how free markets work, on the internet with no "physical" limitations it is simply accelerated.

Left alone corporations to rival governments emerge, which are completely unaccountable. At least there is some accountability of governments to the people, depending on your flavour of government.

mschuster91•4m ago
no one loves the need for CDNs other than maybe video streaming services.

the problem is, below a certain scale you can't operate anything on the internet these days without hiding behind a WAF/CDN combo... with the cut-off mark being "we can afford a 24/7 ops team". even if you run a small niche forum no one cares about, all it takes is one disgruntled donghead that you ban to ruin the fun - ddos attacks are cheap and easy to get these days.

and on top of that comes the shodan skiddie crowd. some 0day pops up, chances are high someone WILL try it out in less than 60 minutes. hell, look into any web server log, the amount of blind guessing attacks (e.g. /wp-admin/..., /system/login, /user/login) or path traversal attempts is insane.

CDN/WAFs are a natural and inevitable outcome of our governments and regulatory agencies not giving a shit about internet security and punishing bad actors.

berkes•48m ago
But the nature of a CDN and most other products CF offers, is central by nature.

If you switch from CF to the next CF competitor, you've not improved this dependency.

The alternative here, is complex or even non-existing. Complex would be some system that allows you to hotswap a CDN, or to have fallback DDOS protection services, or to build you own in-house. Which, IMO, is the worst to do if your business is elsewhere. If you sell, say, petfood online, the dependency-risk that comes with a vendor like CF, quite certainly is less than the investment needed- and risk associted with- building a DDOS protection or CDN on your own; all investment that's not directed to selling more pet-food or get higher margins at doing so.

agnivade•39m ago
You can load-balance between CDN vendors as well
otikik•12m ago
Then your load balancer becomes the single point of failure.
rvz•58m ago
We are now seeing which companies do not consider the third party risk of single point of failures in systems they do not control as part of their infrastructure and what their contingency plan is.

It turns out so far, there isn't one. Other than contacting the CEO of Cloudflare rather than switching on a temporary mitigation measure to ensure minimal downtime.

Therefore, many engineers at affected companies would have failed their own systems design interviews.

cryptonym•45m ago
Sometimes it's not worth it. Your plan is just to accept you'll be off for a day or two, while you switch to a competitor.
throwaway42346•38m ago
Alternative infrastructure costs money, and it's hard to get approval from leadership in many cases. I think many know what the ideal solution looks like, but anything linked to budgets is often out of the engineer's hands.

In some cases it is also a valid business decision. If you have 2 hour down time every 5 years, it may not have a significant revenue impact. Most customers think it's too much bother to switch to a competitor anyway, and even if it were simple the competition might not be better. Nobody gets fired for buying IBM

The decision was probably made by someone else who moved on to a different company, so they can blame that person. It's only when down time significantly impacts your future ARR (and bonus) that leadership cares (assuming that someone can even prove that they actually lose customers).

berkes•53m ago
At least this warrants a good review of anyone's dependency on cloudflare.

If it turns out that this was really just random bad luck, it shouldn't affect their reputation (if humans were rational, that is...)

But if it is what many people seem to imply, that this is the outcome of internal problems/cuttings/restructuring/profit-increase etc, then I truly very much hope it affects their reputation.

But I'm afraid it won't. Just like Microsoft continues to push out software, that, compared to competitors, is unstable, insecure, frustrating to use, lacks features, etc, without it harming their reputation or even bottomlines too much. I'm afraid Cloudflare has a de-facto monopoly (technically: big moat) and can get away with offering poorer quality, for increasing pricing by now.

coffeebeqn•49m ago
Vibe infrastructure
rvz•45m ago
So that is what the best case definition of what "Vibe Engineering" is.
MrAureliusR•40m ago
well that's the thing, such a huge number of companies route all their traffic through Cloudflare. This is at least partially because for a long time, there was no other company that could really do what Cloudflare does, especially not at the scales they do. As much as I despise Cloudflare as a company, their blog posts about stopping attacks and such are extremely interesting. The amount of bandwidth their network can absorb is jaw-dropping.

I've said to many people/friends that use Cloudflare to look elsewhere. When such a huge percentage of the internet flows through a single provider, and when that provider offers a service that allows them to decrypt all your traffic (if you let them install HTTPS certs for you), not only is that a hugely juicy target for nation-states but the company itself has too much power.

But again, what other companies can offer the insane amount of protection they can?

pyuser583•52m ago
Lots of big sites are down
belter•12m ago
This will be another post-mortem of...config file messed...did not catch...promise to be doing better next....We are sorry.

They problem is architectural.

dev0p•1h ago
Isn't it happening a little too often now? Did someone .unwrap in production again?
tovej•1h ago
Internet-level companies are having more outages recently. Is the exposed surface area increasing or is the quality of service suffering?
timvdalen•1h ago
Wow, just plain 500s on customer sites. That's a level of down you don't see that often.
disillusioned•1h ago
At least they branded it!
ablation•1h ago
Yeah that's a hard 500 right? Not even Cloudflare's 500 branded page like last time. What could have caused this, I wonder.
mckirk•55m ago
"A cable!"

"How do you know?"

"I'm holding it!"

Hamuko•52m ago
I hope it’s not another Result.unwrap().
singularity2001•42m ago
maybe this would cause rust to adopt exception handling, and by exception I mean panic
willtemperley•58m ago
Yes Claude is down with a 500 (cloudflare).
ransom1538•56m ago
So. I don't understand the 5 nines they promote. One bad day those nines are gone. So they next year you are pushing 2 nines.
kingstnap•38m ago
Its just fabricated bullshit. It's how all the companies do it. 99.999% over a year is literally 5 minutes. Or under an hour in a decade, that's wildly unrealistic.

Reddit was once down for a full day and that month they reported 99.5% uptime instead of 99.99% as they normally claimed for most months.

There is this amazing combination of nonsense going on to achieve these kinds of numbers:

1. Straight up fraudulent information on status page. Reporting incendents as more minor than any internal monitors would claim.

2. If it's working for at least a few percent of customers it's not down. Degraded is not counted.

3. If any part of anything is working then it's not down. For example with the reddit example even if the site was dead as long as the image server is still at 1% functional with some internal ping the status is good.

maxekman•55m ago
A precious glimpse of the less seen page renders.
jondot•54m ago
its like someone-shut-down-the-power 500s
gwd•52m ago
Unlike the previous outage, my server seems fine, and I can use Cloudflare's tunnel to ssh to the host as well.
Eikon•52m ago
Mine [0] seems to be very high latency but no 500s. But yes, most cloudflare-proxied websites I tried seems to just return 500s.

[0] https://www.merklemap.com/

sushidev•1h ago
Are you serious?
moralestapia•1h ago
Ooof, this one looks like a big one!

canva.com

chess.com

claude.com

coinbase.com

kraken.com

linkedin.com

medium.com

notion.so

npmjs.com

shopify.com (!)

and many more I won't add bc I don't want to be spammy.

Edit: Just checked all my websites hosted there (~12), they're all ok. Other people with small websites are doing well.

Only huge sites seem to be down. Perhaps they deal with them separately, the premium-tier of Cloudflare clients, ... and those went down, dang.

reddalo•49m ago
My small websites are also up. I wonder if they're going to go down soon, or if we're safe.
shultays•49m ago
zoom
otherme123•48m ago
readthedocs down is hurting me the most. My small websites are doing OK.
atraac•1h ago
All those enterprise architects must be fuming now
aurareturn•1h ago
My company's services went down as well.
SherryWong•1h ago
LinkedIn and MEdium are also down as a result
chinathrow•1h ago
Looks like (some) sites behind Cloudflare still work if they do not have caching on.
jonathanlydall•1h ago
It's not simply about caching as we have CDN and reverse proxying which are still running without issue.
songtianlun1•1h ago
yes...
jonathanlydall•1h ago
It seems regular reverse proxying and R2 still works, as we use those and seem to be working fine still.

Can't get to the Dashboard though.

thiscatis•1h ago
Somebody at Cloudflare is stretching that initial investigation time as much as possible to avoid having to update their status to being down and losing that Christmas bonus.
nabla9•1h ago
It's configuration error or related to configuration. It always is with this big things.

Nice thing about Cloudflare being down is that almost everything is down at once. Time for peace and quiet.

norskeld•37m ago
Damn, I wish CloudFlare being down also affected local development, so I could take a break from doing frontend… :'(
da_grift_shift•1h ago
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/hlr9djcf3nyp

>We will be performing scheduled maintenance in ORD (Chicago) datacenter

>Traffic might be re-routed from this location, hence there is a possibility of a slight increase in latency during this maintenance window for end-users in the affected region.

Looks like it's not just Chicago that CF brought down...

yessferatu•48m ago
South African here. Down on our side. Huge sites, like our primary news site is down - medical services, emergency service/information etc... all down. It's been like this since 11:00am our time, so about 13minutes now.
maxlin•1h ago
>Go to <social media page> - 500 error from cloudflare >Google is <social media page> down -> click first link - literally the exact same 500 cloudflare error html from downdetector

I thought we were meant to learn something ... ?

theginger•1h ago
I don't want to criticize cloud flare, I love what they do and understand the scale of the challenge, but most people don't and 2 in a month or so like this is going to hit their reputation.
3xstphvs•1h ago
aw, i cant go on rateyourmusic
phartenfeller•1h ago
Wow, three times in a month is really crushing their trust.
dabeeeenster•54m ago
3?! When was the second>
ubercore•51m ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46140145
8cvor6j844qw_d6•45m ago
I'll need to checkup on DigitalOcean uptime, may be better than Cloudflare.
phartenfeller•22m ago
My Hetzner servers have been running fine for years. Okay, there were times when I broke something, but at least I was able to fix it quickly and never felt dependent on others.
countWSS•1h ago
Everything i use depend on perfect cloudflare operation workflow, practically 99% of these services go down. What magical qualities it has that no competitors form for its services?
nicolailolansen•1h ago
They had a few good weeks.
arunaugustine•1h ago
They had a scheduled maintenance between 7am and 11am UTC in Chicago. But that should have re-routed traffic not take down internet right?
PrayagS•1h ago
I'm in India and we're affected as well.
J4PJ1T•40m ago
Oceania here gang and i think that it is a global issue
makkoncept•1h ago
https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com/ is up :) but the status is not correct.
matt3210•1h ago
Ooof status 500 someone’s getting fiiiiired!
Hashversion•1h ago
how long cloudflarestatus.com takes it to detect usually?
valdemarrolfsen•1h ago
No engineers from Cloudflare reading hackernews these days? Should update your status page!
Palmik•1h ago
This is second time this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46140145

The previous one affected European users for >1h and made many Cloudflare websites nearly unusable for them.

0xfedcafe•1h ago
Funny how even safe Rust isn’t able to stop vibecoding without a proper validation. And the fact that it's a monopoly isn't so funny anymore.
dkdbejwi383•1h ago
There is no language that makes it impossible to have any kind of bug ever. The safety languages like Rust offer is around memory, not bad configuration or faulty business logic.
lionkor•1h ago
Rust is one of the few languages where I found AI to be very well checked. The type system can enforce so many constraints that you do avoid lots of bugs, and the AI will get caught writing shit code.

Of course, vibe coding will always find a way to make something horribly broken but pretty.

nromiun•56m ago
I have noticed LLMs tend to generate very verbose code. What an average human might do in 10 LoC, LLMs will stretch that to 50-60 lines. Sometimes with comments on every line. That can make it hard to see those bugs.
0xfedcafe•53m ago
Yep, that’s what I wrote. It wasn’t a sarcasm
m078•1h ago
Cloudflare is investigating issues with Cloudflare Dashboard and related APIs.
wildcard1210•1h ago
my shopify store is down
ojm•1h ago
Turnstile seems up still.
aroman•1h ago
looks like a big one. interestingly, our site, which uses a TON of Cloudflare services[0] — yet not their front-line proxy — is doing fine: https://magicgarden.gg.

So it seems like it's just the big ol' "throw this big orange reverse proxy in front of your site for better uptime!" is what's broken...

[0] Workers, Durable Objects, KV, R2, etc

bpye•54m ago
Moving off of Cloudflare for my personal domain is on my todo list for the holidays...
reassess_blind•50m ago
My sites that use their main proxy are seemingly up and working? Could be a regional PoP issue.
wildcard1210•1h ago
My Shopify store is down. My competitor stores are also down.
asmor•1h ago
That's the 30% vibe code they promised us.

Cynicism aside, something seems to be going wrong in our industry.

nlitened•57m ago
Also “Rewrite it in Rust”.

P.S. it’s a joke, guys, but you have to admit it’s at least partially what’s happening

koakuma-chan•52m ago
No, it has nothing to do with Rust.
zwnow•38m ago
The first one had something to do with Rust :-)
kortilla•32m ago
Not really. In C or C++ that could have just been a segfault.

.unwrap() literally means “I’m not going to handle the error branch of this result, please crash”.

mike_hearn•28m ago
Indeed, but fortunately there are more languages in the world than Rust and C++. A language that performed decently well and used exceptions systematically (Java, Kotlin, C#) would probably have recovered from a bad data file load.
koakuma-chan•19m ago
There is nothing that prevents you from recovering from a bad data file load in Rust. The programmer who wrote that code chose to crash.
mike_hearn•12m ago
That's exactly my point. There should be no such thing as choosing to crash if you want reliable software. Choosing to crash is idiomatic in Rust but not in managed languages in which exceptions are the standard way to handle errors.
gwd•30m ago
But it might have something to do with the "rewrite" part:

> The idea that new code is better than old is patently absurd. Old code has been used. It has been tested. Lots of bugs have been found, and they’ve been fixed. There’s nothing wrong with it. It doesn’t acquire bugs just by sitting around on your hard drive.

> Back to that two page function. Yes, I know, it’s just a simple function to display a window, but it has grown little hairs and stuff on it and nobody knows why. Well, I’ll tell you why: those are bug fixes. One of them fixes that bug that Nancy had when she tried to install the thing on a computer that didn’t have Internet Explorer. Another one fixes that bug that occurs in low memory conditions. Another one fixes that bug that occurred when the file is on a floppy disk and the user yanks out the disk in the middle. That LoadLibrary call is ugly but it makes the code work on old versions of Windows 95.

> Each of these bugs took weeks of real-world usage before they were found. The programmer might have spent a couple of days reproducing the bug in the lab and fixing it. If it’s like a lot of bugs, the fix might be one line of code, or it might even be a couple of characters, but a lot of work and time went into those two characters.

> When you throw away code and start from scratch, you are throwing away all that knowledge. All those collected bug fixes. Years of programming work.

From https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

windward•26m ago
A lot of words for a 'might'. We don't know what caused the downtime.
kenonet•43m ago
it's never the technology, it's the implementation
MegaThorx•43m ago
Did you consider to rewrite your joke in rust?
rifycombine1•41m ago
cc: @oncall then trigger pagerduty :)
joenada•57m ago
Going? I think we got there a long time ago. I'm sure we all try our best but our industry doesn't take quality seriously enough. Not compared to every other kind of engineering discipline.
asmor•46m ago
Always been there. But it seems to be creeping into institutions that previously cared over the past few years, accelerating in the last.
themafia•36m ago
Salaries are flat relative to inflation and profits. I've long felt that some of the hype around "AI" is part of a wage suppression tactic.
nromiun•1h ago
I wonder if it is another bug , like unwrap, in their rewritten code.

Also, I don't think their every service got affected. I am using their proxy and pages service and both are still up.

davidcheungo123•1h ago
wtf, cannot work now
paweladamczuk•1h ago
I noticed this when my Claude iPhone app stopped working.
Hashversion•1h ago
cloudflare pages seems to be working!
odie5533•1h ago
How is Hacker News still up?
sunbum•58m ago
Because it doesn't use cloudflare duh.?
otherme123•51m ago
I have a handful of sites DNS/NS through Cloudflare, with their certificates, and they are working OK.
PrayagS•47m ago
From their response headers, it seems like the request is coming from NGINX directly. How do they defend themselves against DOS attacks?
grundrausch3n•51m ago
I thought they are running classic FreeBSD servers like in ye olde times.
yread•1h ago
Hah even Linkedin is showing 500 for me
computersuck•1h ago
waaay too soon
b_bloch•1h ago
That's quite unfortunate xD
SCdF•1h ago
Really disappointed that down detectors down detector[1] isn't detecting that down detector[2] is down

[1] https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com/

[2] https://downdetector.com/

meindnoch•1h ago
Maybe they should stop vibe coding and vibe reviewing their PRs?
Dilettante_•1h ago
"I warned you about Cloudflare bro!!!! I told you dog!"
grim_io•1h ago
I wonder how many uptime SLAs will be violated this year.
virtualritz•1h ago
Yeah, and because of this for example Claude Code is down too because the auth goes through CF. F*cking marvelus, the decentralized web ...
reneberlin•1h ago
I can imagine the horror of pressure of the people responsible for resolution. On that scale of impact it is very hard to keep calm - but still the hive of minds have to cooperate and solve the puzzle while the world is basically halted and ready to blame the company you work for.
ricardo81•1h ago
Their uptime over the year is likely faring worse than your average hosting company, DNS provider or CDN.
cryptonym•53m ago
Some may experience more downtime due to their outages than they'd have from DDoS.
igleria•1h ago
Heads will roll at cloudfare. E-commerce customers must be furious.

Impossible not to feel bad for whoever is tasked to cleanup the mess.

zppln•49m ago
Especially around christmas. I was about to buy a pair of Birkenstocks. Nope, site is down. Went on to buy a microphone holder, nope, that site is down as well. :) Sure, I'll still get around to it eventually.
domysee•1h ago
I'm just realizing how much we depend on Cloudflare working. Every service I use is unreachable. Even worse than last time. It's almost impossible to do any work atm.
yoctosec•1h ago
I use Cloudflare because of their Tunnel to protect my Raspberry Pi, but I think I will just use it without the Tunnel now. My main concern is privacy, but I'm not ready to accept so frequent downtime and dependence on them. The whole reason to host self-host was to be independent anyway. Does anyone have a recommendation for that (that is free)? Should I worry about privacy? My name and my city are on the website anyway.
runeb•52m ago
Checkout tailscale
unixfox•31m ago
Tailscale's control plane uses Cloudflare.
yoctosec•30m ago
And what about a website I want to make public? I'm just concerned about my IP being visible, like for my personal website or my searxng instance
DocJade•52m ago
my tunnels are still working, oddly
yoctosec•32m ago
Now mine works again too, I guess it was a short outage
LeonenTheDK•1h ago
Nice, just got woken up by my outage alarms, just for it to be Cloudflare again. At least it's _my_ problem!

But my goodness, they're really struggling over the last couple weeks... Can't wait to read the next blog post.

koakuma-chan•48m ago
Outage alarms?
bytejanitor•59m ago
gitlab.com hasn't noticed yet.
alex_suzuki•56m ago
it has now, for me. can't access web UI (SaaS, not self-hosted, obviously)
erikbye•59m ago
This is getting embarrassing.
hasperdi•59m ago
Even LinkedIn is now down. Opening linkedin.com gives me a 500 server error and Cloudflare at the bottom. Quite embarassing.
asmor•42m ago
At least they were available when Front Door was down!
Oras•59m ago
Went to ahref to check a domain, saw 500 and came here to check.

I have a few domains on cloudflare and all of them are working with no issues so it might not be a global issue

basisword•58m ago
I’m sure everybody learnt their lesson from last months outage and built in redundancy or stopped relying on Cloudflare.
matt3210•58m ago
Everyone says vibe coding but people are just fine at being incompetent without the AI help
koolba•47m ago
Sure, but with AI we can automate that incompetence.
jondot•57m ago
LinkedIn is down
CodinM•52m ago
came here for this thx
xingwu•57m ago
Classic. https://imgur.com/a/B3QxB1R
alextingle•46m ago
"Content not available in your region."

Please avoid Imgur.

sebzim4500•36m ago
Use a vpn or avoid the UK
rgun•57m ago
https://registry.npmjs.org/ is down, affecting our builds
CGamesPlay•53m ago
So is https://hub.docker.com which is why I am here and not doing useful work.
erikbye•57m ago
Cloudflare uptime has worsened a lot lately, AI coding has increased exponentially, hmm
meerab•57m ago
It is up now!
dale1110•49m ago
You sure?
dale1110•49m ago
Just checked. It's up!!
wyboy86110•40m ago
nope... order page is still 500
Ueland•57m ago
Interestingly enough, also some MS/Azure services are down. For example https://www.office.com/ just returns:

>We are sorry, something went wrong. >Please try refreshing the page in a few minutes. If the problem persists, please visit status.cloud.microsoft for updates regarding known issues.

The status page of course says nothing

GeertVL•55m ago
Linkedin -> the same
nikanj•51m ago
For me Linkedin returns the 500 cloudflare error
codeisforever•48m ago
Seems all of Shopify.com is down. Every store
vinskabun•56m ago
pixiv.net
jazzyjackson•56m ago
Is it at all achievable to be fronted by a CDN but fallback to the raw server in case the front falls off? Better to be vulnerable to DDoS than be unreachable altogether
calyhre•52m ago
But then you end up potentially exposing the origin server. This could be an opt-in option though
koolba•49m ago
With CloudFlare specifically probably not. IIRC, they require DNS resolution of your domain to operate so if they’re down, I don’t see how you’d change it to route directly to the underlying site.

Even if you could, having two sets of TLS termination is going to be a pain as well.

justmarc•56m ago
Obligatory song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC06Z6lCB_Q&t=30s
ianberdin•56m ago
NPM is down. World is collapsing thanks to Cloudflare.
w4zz•56m ago
gitlab down aswell
neo_tokyo•55m ago
Someone's been vibe coding the scheduled maintenance.
samwreww•55m ago
claude.ai is down bc of it :( good for OpenAI as they're using something else maybe Vercel?
ThalesX•55m ago
I just started getting npm errors while developing something; I was like hmm, strange... then I tried to go down to isitdown. That was also down. I was like, oh this must be something local to me (I'm in a remote place visiting my gramps).

Then I go to Hacker News to check. Lo and behold, it's Cloudflare. This is sort of worrying...

nlstitch•55m ago
What ever happened to "no deploys on fridays"? haha
kenonet•51m ago
haha for real
ianberdin•55m ago
I have 10B idea: cloudflare that does not fail so often.
reddalo•53m ago
It exists and it's called Bunny.net
biql•48m ago
How about: internet that is actually decentralized.
ianberdin•46m ago
Yes, on one hand, it was so wonderful. Cloudflare came and said, "Yeah, now we'll save everyone from DDoS, everything's perfect, we'll speed up your site," and bam, they became a bottleneck for the entire internet. It's some kind of nightmare. Why didn't several other such popular startups appear, into which more money was invested, and which would allow some failure points to be created? I don't understand this. Or at least Cloudflare itself should have had some backup mechanism, so that in case of failures, something still works, even slowly, or at least they could redirect traffic directly, bypassing their proxies. They just didn't do that at all. Something is definitely wrong.
viraptor•40m ago
> Why didn't several other such popular startups appear

bunny.net

fastly.com

gcore.com

keycdn.com

Cloudfront

Probably some more I forgot now. CF is not the only option and definitely not the best option.

ianberdin•16m ago
Thank you for sending these alternatives, they look good. And, of course, the most important thing is that Cloudflare is free, while these alternatives cost money. And they cost hundreds of dollars at my traffic volume of tens of terabytes. Of course, I really don't want to pay. So, as they say, mice wept and jabbed, but they kept gnawing on the cactus.
MildlySerious•55m ago
I can't update DNS entries for my domains with Porkbun, because it's "Powered by Cloudflare".
blackhaz•54m ago
Anyone shorting the damn stock?
nish__•54m ago
Just in time for the London work day :)
kinensake•54m ago
Every time Cloudflare is down I'm not sure if it's really down or not because most down detector websites use Cloudflare. Lmao
Artur-Defences•54m ago
This is not a good look, at all
manupati•54m ago
Odd
SwedishPerson_A•53m ago
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02673843.2023.2... https://www.perplexity.ai/ https://www.researchgate.net/

All give me

"500 Internal Server Error cloudflare.."

So I'm guessing yes.

nekkooo2e•53m ago
Perplexity is down
chistev•53m ago
It's really cool to me that this site is never down with all these outages of major websites.

Representative of having the best developers behind it.

ilaksh•51m ago
They just don't use Cloudflare.
chistev•24m ago
How do they handle DDoS?
CafeRacer•53m ago
Even digital ocean is down :D
nekkooo2e•53m ago
Perplexity AI shows 500 Internal Server Error
divanvisagie•53m ago
Wishbone12
neonnbits•53m ago
i was watching the climax of "Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood" on crunchyroll and cloudflare went down again
elijah3040448•53m ago
Pretty awkward. Thought my WIFI was acting up when I wasn't even able to pull up the Cloudfare website to see if something was down. Then, trying to go to Downdetector and that wasn't working either.
techguy1954•52m ago
I can still visit some websites that use Cloudflare, but other don't work.

Blender Artists works, but DownDetector and Quillbot dont.

isaac3307•52m ago
This is so cool guys. All of us get to lose millions of dollars together so late at night!
isaac3307•52m ago
This is so cool guys!!! We all get to savor this moment and lose millions of DOLL HAIRS together!!
isaac3307•47m ago
I love being here with you guys!!!
segev608•52m ago
Luckly https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.... is up :)
SwedishPerson_A•52m ago
https://www.researchgate.net/ https://www.tandfonline.com/ https://www.perplexity.ai/ All give me "500 Internal Server Error cloudflare"

So My guess is yes It´s down.

cv_h•52m ago
Free accounts seem to be fine, only enterprise accounts seem to be affected.
epolanski•52m ago
I can absolutely accomplish nothing today...can't download npm packages, cannot login to services.

I've been a Cloudflare fan for the longest time, but the more they grow the more they look like the weak link of the internet. This is the second major outage in less than few weeks. Terrible.

polaris64•51m ago
DownDetector'sDownDetector does not detect that DownDetector's down
kenonet•51m ago
stock going whoops
8cvor6j844qw_d6•51m ago
Interested if its the same issue that brought down Cloudflare previously.
ammo1662•51m ago
"Given Cloudflare's importance in the Internet ecosystem any outage of any of our systems is unacceptable. "

Is this a joke?

And their blog of above statement is also down:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/

Towaway69•51m ago
for me docker is failing with:

    unknown: failed to copy: httpReadSeeker: failed open: unexpected status from GET request to https://production.cloudflare.docker.com/registry-v2/docker/registry/v2/blobs/sha256/....
so coffee time.
monstertank•51m ago
How do you tell if this is a cyberattack or not?
dale1110•51m ago
Tried to watch anime then realized that cloudflare was down...again. smh
robotfelix•51m ago
Our site is fine, including files served by Cloudflare's CDN and Cloudflare Workers, but the Cloudflare dashboard is definitely down.

The Cloudflare status page says that it's the dashboard and Cloudflare APIs that are down. I wonder if the problem is focused on larger sites because they are more dependent on / integrated with Cloudflare APIs. Or perhaps it's only an Enterprise tier feature that's broken.

If it's not everything that is down, I guess things are slightly more resilient than last time?

vimwizard•51m ago
seems related to CF tunnels... policies are being enforced but perhaps origin servers are not being properly served.
kvam•50m ago
Infrastructure-as-Vibe?
zwnow•50m ago
I love it, and we wont learn from this again :-) Looking forward for the 3rd outage in a few weeks.
tin7in•50m ago
For us also Digital Ocean, Render, and a few other vendors are down.

At this point picking vendors that don't use Cloudflare in any way becomes the right thing to do.

bigfudge•39m ago
Claude was also down (which brought me here)
dale1110•50m ago
Tried to watch anime and then i realized it was down....again. smh
tippa123•50m ago
Curious to see which big companies were caught flat-footed during the 18 November outage compared with today. In my opinion, if a company was caught out twice, that reflects poor decision-making and urgency. As the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

If a company was able to overcome all the red tape within three weeks and not be impacted today, that's impressive.

ednevsky•50m ago
Notion is also down (haven't seen a comment on that). It's so funny how the biggest companies literally just have their sites not loading because of Cloudflare.
hax0r1338•50m ago
This gotta be an attack, no way its configuration error again.
jonathrg•20m ago
Why not? They have been proudly vibe coding for a while.
bilekas•50m ago
This is painful, if I'm not mistaken this is during a scheduled maintenance too ?

Whenever I deploy a new release to my 5 customers, I am pedantic about having a fast rollback.. Maybe I'm not following the apparent industry standard and instead should just wing it.

zwnow•37m ago
Let AI wing it instead.
yellow_lead•50m ago
Is anyone else woken up by this? My company's service is down too. Considering a move away
maxlin•49m ago
>half internet down >first "is site down" result (downdetector) down >downdetectorsdowndetector.com: "everything is fine" >downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com: not even responding >downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com: "everything is broken"
Artur-Defences•49m ago
"Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress" I image the maintenance was conducted like this: "fix detroit data center bugs, please be very careful, don't mess up like last time :)" bypass permissions on
tdrz•49m ago
I'm looking for cofounders and investors to build a working cloudflare.
udarij•49m ago
It's ok to fail, but most frustrationg thing is there's no suppoting team or any contact point accessible directly. this is bad..
Vivianfromtheo•48m ago
This got me and the anime community stressed
dracotomes•48m ago
and it's back
sandruso•48m ago
it's back on

but wow, it must be stressful to deal with this

udev4096•48m ago
Clownflare strikes again!
Artur-Defences•48m ago
"Monitoring - A fix has been implemented and we are monitoring the results."
decimalenough•48m ago
Seems to be back up.
StrLght•48m ago
And it's on Friday again — never change, Cloudflare.

Gentle reminder that every affected company brought it upon themselves. Very few companies care about making their system resilient to 3rd party failures. This is just another wake-up call for them.

max23_•48m ago
It is up for me.

All the sites that were 500 error before are able to load now.

JustSkyfall•47m ago
Seems to be back up?
pprotas•47m ago
What a joke of a company. They have the internet in the palm of their hands, and yet let vibe coding ambitions ruin their empire.

Time for everyone to drop this company and move on to better solutions (until those better solutions rot from the inside out, just like their predecessor did)

hnarn•47m ago
One has to wonder how many times or how often proprietary cloud services have to go down before there is a general shift away from using the cloud and "infinite scaling" for everything. For many, many use cases you do not need neither Cloudflare nor Github nor nine nines for everything (which you are clearly not getting anyway). It's obviously not enough with once a year for most businesses, or perhaps once a month. Weekly outages? For how long?

If you host something that actually matters that other people depend upon and, please review your actual needs and if possible stop making yourself _completely_ dependent on giant cloud corporations.

dodos•47m ago
Looks to be back now.
michael-sumner•47m ago
It's up now!!! London, UK
lionkor•47m ago
eval(requestBody).unwrap()
starkindustries•46m ago
Never push to production on Friday!
jachee•46m ago
Update title to “Tell HN: Cloudflare was down”
MarcelGerber•46m ago
Just started working for me again (in Germany), both on our own CF-hosted page and on cloudflare.com itself.
Titan2189•46m ago
They're back online it seems
digiajay•46m ago
Basecamp was down couple of minutes ago and it's back now online.
NKosmatos•46m ago
LOL, 500 returned for many big sites…this is going to hurt and make people rethink. If it’s not DNS, then someone pushed to production on Friday :-)
elijah3040448•46m ago
https://sniffies.com is back and running.

Cloudflare is back.

Congratulations all.

chinathrow•46m ago
It's back.
jjdinho•45m ago
Godspeed, Cloudflare, for the fix
w4zz•45m ago
Up again!
vimwizard•45m ago
she's back
alxbenjamin•45m ago
It is up again. There will be a lot of hard talk with Cloudflare, I guess
DaSilentStorm•45m ago
Aaand ... we're back
lrvick•45m ago
I was just arguing yesterday to coworkers I would quit tech before helping centralize any more of the internet on Cloudflare as a massive single point of failure.

Thank you, Cloudflare, for again proving my point.

domysee•44m ago
It's back!
skylurk•44m ago
> Monitoring - A fix has been implemented and we are monitoring the results.

> Dec 05, 2025 - 09:12 UTC

MrAureliusR•37m ago
Yeah, cloudflare.com is working and the website that first clued me in to the outage (chess.com) is also working.
udarij•44m ago
It's ok to fail. but the most frustrating thing ever is... there's no contact point or supporting team easily and directly accessible.. this is bad..
DaSilentStorm•44m ago
Aaand ... we're back!
donbox•44m ago
seems its back \m/
yapyap•44m ago
seems to have been resolved
BluSyn•44m ago
Perhaps related? My main fiber WAN went out few hrs ago, failing over to Starlink backup. Discovered it’s a cloudflare issue, as my multi-wan setup tests against 1.1.1.1, which suddenly stopped responding (but only from my fiber ISP). Switched to testing 8.8.8.8 to restore.

If it weren’t for recent cloudflare outages, never would have considered this was the problem.

Even until I saw this, I assumed it was an ISP issue, since Starlink still worked using 1.1.1.1. Now I’m thinking it’s a cloudflare routing problem?

ianberdin•44m ago
So, I understand correctly that all websites and services want protection from DDoS attacks, and that's basically their number one concern. The second is caching in different parts of the world. So, it's caching and DDoS. But at the same time, nobody wants to use CloudFront from AWS because it’s not that simple yet. And it’s more expensive, while Cloudflare is free. So, what should we do about all this? This won’t do. We’ve created a gigantic bottleneck that controls the entire internet, just like in the movie Mad Max, where he controlled the only source of water. That’s wrong. And we all fell for it like fools. So, the question is, what can be done in this situation? Are there reliable competitors? Are there any fault-tolerant systems for this? The whole problem is that our DNS, and with Cloudflare, they proxy it. So, if their proxy goes down, everything falls apart. What should we do about this?
sammy2255•43m ago
Nobody is being forced to use Cloudflare
ianberdin•40m ago
Since everything is absolutely correct, no one forced it; they just provided a good, excellent solution for free, and consequently, the whole internet has gotten hooked on it. As they say, free cocaine causes harm. So, what are the alternatives? What options are there to protect against DDoS attacks and to make a website quickly accessible from different parts of the world? And at the same time, without paying a sky-high price for it.
nedt•40m ago
Everyone trying to access a site behind Cloudflare is forced.
6031769•42m ago
Let your hoster take care of the DDoS and stop using the flaky behemoth.

You haven't actually watched Mad Max, have you? I do recommend it.

drexlspivey•40m ago
Who is we? You are free to stop using their service
chaidhat•34m ago
Someone should make an open source system that lets you easily host containers so that if one fails, we can easily switchover across providers. Like Vercel AI SDK but for containers. That is, if docker isnt failing (it is right now cause it depends on Cloudflare)
someothherguyy•43m ago
for all of 20 minutes, the world cried.
OtherShrezzing•43m ago
The site is back up, but it feels fairly silly that a platform that has inserted itself as a single point of failure has an architecture that's got single points of failure.

The other companies working at that scale have all sensibly split off into geographical regions & product verticals with redundancy & it's rare that "absolutely all of AWS everywhere is offline". This is two total global outages in as many weeks from Cloudflare, and a third "mostly global outage" the week before.

themafia•39m ago
Crop monoculture created the potato famine. We failed to learn the larger lesson. "Hyperscale" is inherently dangerous.
adityashankar•43m ago
it's fine now...I believe
elcapithanos•41m ago
Shortest damn outage ever
scirob•40m ago
Wonder if supabase auth down is also related https://status.supabase.com/incidents/rgz3dl2rcmq8
zwnow•39m ago
Will it be down for 10 days again? Who knows. Would've stopped using it after the first 10 day outage anyway.
andy_ppp•40m ago
Just a reminder that every dependency you rely on, both inside your codebase and external services, has a price.
madjam002•40m ago
Looking forward to the post mortem on this one. We weren't affected (just using the CDN), and people are saying they weren't affected who are using Cloudflare Workers (a previous culprit which we've since moved off), so I wonder what service / API was actually affected that brought down multiple websites with a 500 but not all of them.

Wise was just down which is a pretty big one.

Also odd how some websites were down this time that previously weren't down with the global outage in November

thinkindie•36m ago
we were not affected too and we realised it was Cloudflare because Linear was down and they were mentioning an upstream service. Also Ecosia was affected, and I then realised they might be relying on Cloudflare too.
gowthamgts12•35m ago
CDN was also affected for some customers. we were down with 500.
m_mueller•32m ago
Maven Repository was down for me for a while, now it recovered.
reassess_blind•30m ago
Yeah it's strange. My sites that are are proxied through Cloudflare remained up, but Supabase was taken offline so some backends were down. Either a regional PoP style issue, or a specific API or service had to be used to be affected.
archon810•30m ago
Our locations excluded from Cloudflare WAF were up, but the rest was down. I think WAF took a dump.
kryptn•29m ago
was interesting, some of our stuff failed, but some other stuff that used cloudflare indirectly didn't.
themly•29m ago
CDN was definitely down also. We were widely impacted by it with 500's.
cryptonym•26m ago
> Looking forward to the post mortem

This is becoming a meme.

meandmycode•22m ago
This has to be setting off some alarm bells internally, a well written postmortem on an occasional issue, great, but when your postmortem talks about learnings and improvements yet major outages keep happening, it becomes meaningless..
da_grift_shift•7m ago
The excuse:

>A change made to how Cloudflare's Web Application Firewall parses requests caused Cloudflare's network to be unavailable for several minutes this morning.

>The change was deployed by our team to help mitigate the industry-wide vulnerability disclosed this week in React Server Components.

>We will share more information as we have it today.

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/lfrm31y6sw9q

dynamite-ready•39m ago
Some of the sites I maintain, are fine. But I'm guessing it's just a matter of time?
kUdtiHaEX•38m ago
Cloudflare just closed down the incident on their status page without any additional explanation. Sigh.
chessmaster-hex•38m ago
Some big fishes were affected as well... Crunchyroll, Fortnite, LinkedIn let's wait for the explanation of this one.
r721•37m ago
Just after Matthew Prince's interview at Wired :)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46157295

Hashversion•37m ago
what's the estimated loss? any guesses or estimations?
capnsketch•33m ago
If I had a nickel for everytime cloudflare went down. Then I would have 2 nickels which is not a lot but still wierd that it happened twice.
cryptonym•22m ago
You would have 2 nickels, this week.

It also went down multiple times in the past; not to say that's bad, everyone does from time to time.

TheGilDev•20m ago
I’m still glad they’re here to provide great services and help secure the internet for lots of us!
arjie•29m ago
How interesting. As of 00:30 or so I could still access Claude but then it went down with a 500 from Cloudflare and I thought I'd nab a quick something off Slickdeals but that's down too. My own blog is on Cloudflare's `cloudflared` tunnel and it's working just fine, even the cache, so it must be something hitting some specific type of configuration or some shard hitting some region.

And they're back before I finished the comment. Such a pity, I was hoping to hog some more Claude for myself through Claude Code.

JeremyJaydan•28m ago
I moved away from Cloudflare over a month ago because I didn't understand how they don't have pricing caps for their upgraded plans, they genuinely seem like the mob but I haven't looked any further into it..

Either way it's been interesting to see the bullets I've been dodging.

jjude•24m ago
What service(s) are you using now? What did you move to?
JeremyJaydan•20m ago
A small one (afaik) in a location that I wanted in the US [1]. I'm not running a bank so I'd prefer to just go down if I'm ever attacked.

[1] https://shifthosting.com/

nickdothutton•21m ago
So many outages now they all begin to swim into 1, what's that 3 or 4 this quarter?
chaidhat•20m ago
For those saying we have an over-reliance on software -- is there a way to use multiple CDNs for the same frontend website?
LucasLanglois•16m ago
Love that Cloudflare put together a participative and community-driven advent calendar!
reassess_blind•11m ago
The "half the internet is down, nothing we can do" excuse works great the first time, but doesn't fly the second time in a month.

What solutions are there for Multi DNS/CDN failover that don't rely on a single point of failure?