A whitelist, auth/contact is ideal for messaging without spam and is more workable with a large federated group that can adopt an evolving open source protocol.
Too many unknowns and moving parts.
Have you ever worked with the general public and computers?
The average person was wondering why their wireless router needed cables. They did not update their computers for the entire time they owned them. Somebody else ignores big red text saying this will delete everything and hits next anyway, then wonders where their photo collection has gone.
I cannot believe the average person would be capable of registering a domain and configuring their DNS to point at this simple mail server they’re running.
If somebody else is taking care of all of these parts, I am not sure they’re really hosting it themselves.
Maybe we need a new protocol and we can replace all of this? How do we get everybody on board?
The average person isn't qualified to administer a server and would rather pay $1/month or whatever for a hosted solution.
The constant pestering by Google to buy storage space has started pushing me to deleting everything more then a few years old as a stepping stone to leaving Gmail completely.
And still my mail sometimes goes to spam essentially because it's not "@gmail.com" This is a really real problem that will never go away because everyone in a position to do something about it being so monopolistic cannot understand it.
Good god what happened to editors?
It looks perfectly fine and understandable to me. I guess you don't like the parenthetical sentence between commas. Imagine it is behind em-dash and everything should be fine.
Maybe this “You’d hope Google would notice the account was older than the user, especially with today’s advanced AI protections, but no”
Or even clearer: “You’d think Google, with all its advanced AI tooling, would notice the account was created before its creator was born (4 years earlier, apparently), but no”
I know English reader hates it when the verb is too far from subject however. Clearly, this one could be improved but I think calling it a failure of editorial standard is over harsh.
Unfortunately you'll be guided to storing those in your Google account too, so your everyday user will still get locked out, in some ways it's worse because a lot of sites will only accept a "recovery key", email confirmation is no longer enough (not that it matters if your GMail is also locked out)
https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/recovery-cont...
I hope Google starts to push all users to setup Recovery Contacts. It would greatly reduce the likelihood of lockouts, whether using passkeys or not.
a few years ago gmail stopped letting me login. password was ok. it was saying something about my login been suspicious or something and that it will send me code to recovery email. i was getting code on recovery email, entering it and getting back message saying "we still not sure that everything is ok, try again later".
it took 6 months before i was able to login to account.
Why not register your own domain and use an email on that domain?
Nowadays, registering a domain is almost free, and you can fully customize your email addresses.
Who do you use as a mail host with your custom domain? A third party?
granted, it gives me an out if my provider revokes my access (in this case, google) but the custom domain requires some headache to manage well - I wish I had just used a google account...
Reputation is everything in email delivery.
Obviously they can only do this for unique-enough names and so this filtering could never work for “Joe Miller” but it does stop the dozens of phishes we see per day that are FROM our CEO’s first and last name but with a Gmail email address.
I don't know why this stuff would be rejected. I went through several debugging steps online and didn't get anywhere with it. Every tool said I had set it up correctly.
dtdynasty•2mo ago