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The New Kindle Scribes Are Great, but Not Great Enough

https://www.wired.com/review/kindle-scribe-colorsoft-2025/
25•thm•2h ago

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barbazoo•2h ago
Not familiar with wired. Is this an ad? Reads like a “review” but there is a “buy now” button, permanently covering about 25% of the bottom of the screen.
IAmBroom•2h ago
Wired is the online remnant of a once-popular computer magazine. Like any industry mag, it makes most of its money from ads, so its reviews should always be viewed with this in mind.
rjsw•1h ago
Nothing wrong with ads in the correct context, a good part of why we bought print computer magazines was to look at them as well as the articles.
abdullahkhalids•1h ago
From TFA last paragraph

> Ultimately, if you already have the second-generation Scribe, I don't think you need to upgrade.... you might as well upgrade to a reMarkable tablet.... a pretty big investment for a still-limited device.... neither of them would be my go-to pick.

Don't think reviewers are getting paid to shill for Amazon.

ayhanfuat•1h ago
If you look at the query parameters of the Amazon links you can see that they are affiliate links. It might be more or less an honest review but they do earn money from it.
showerst•1h ago
I don't think magazines using affiliate links necessarily makes a review unbiased. Recommended or not, if someone buys it from them they may as well make a cut.

That said, many of these type of articles are just thinly veiled paid advertorials.

refulgentis•1h ago
We’ve discovered the review that says the thing is bad, is actually an ad for the thing, because the buy link has an affiliate code.

Am I understanding you right?

I feel like we have stumbled into a classic HN tarpit, where people try justifying something obviously wrong by adding one observation and implying it can be twisted into one segment of the obviously wrong thing.

It’s a tarpit, because as soon as I point out this doesn’t change anything, you can either point out you were just observing or claim some other claim was what was being implied

akuchling•18m ago
That's not correct; Wired still produces a print edition every other month.
giancarlostoro•1h ago
Wired used to be more popular here, they aren't as they used to be it feels like, but it was basically a primary source of tech news for many of us.
refulgentis•1h ago
So you’re not familiar with Wired (!?), and think this is an ad, along with a side of review-in-scare quotes? “you might as well upgrade to a reMarkable tablet.... a pretty big investment for a still-limited device.... neither of them would be my go-to pick”

And you’ve been on HN 15 years, just like me?

Something tells me you’re cranky this morning and trolling a bit

superultra•1h ago
The day I trashed my huge collection of WIRED print mags, including that one Y2K dark glossy cover, was a sad day
mikestew•1h ago
16 years on HN, and enough karma to indicate that you regularly participate, but never heard of Wired magazine, huh?
akazantsev•1h ago
Future buyers, be aware that those are "small" margins. You can't make them smaller without modifying the ebook file itself.

https://media.wired.com/photos/6938a3ba3f357ab2a44d03b1/mast...

riskable•1h ago
ebooks as a platform will never evolve until ereaders (like these) get ~30FPS refresh rates. That's when "scrollytelling" can enter the race and could very well expand the industry into new territory.
jbullock35•1h ago
The previous Kindle Scribe had a slow refresh rate, and it showed every time you tried to turn a page. All I want so far as refresh rates are concerned is seamless page-turning – page-turning that doesn’t make me wait. Will this version of the Scribe be any better? The Wired review doesn’t say.
WillAdams•18m ago
It's close --- used to be I would start the page turn when on the next-to-last line on the page, but more recent Kindles are fast enough that I don't bother, and it doesn't feel _that_ much slower than turning a physical page.
refulgentis•1h ago
“scrollytelling”? Scrolling? Or tap to slideshow, which doesn’t require scrolling? Or some novel format that uses scrolling as a gesture to “advance”? Wouldn’t that have taken off somewhere other than overwrought marketing pages on Apple.com? Is it different than tapping?
nemomarx•1h ago
What do you imagine would use that? I can only think of smooth scrolling on a web toon or something, but you would want much better color reproduction first.
jbullock35•1h ago
I keep waiting for the Kindle to allow notetaking by dictation. It works well on an iPad; it’s so much quicker and smoother than handwriting notes.
A_D_E_P_T•1h ago
Three or four generations of Kindle Scribes since 2022. Still no new Kindle Oasis. At this rate I think my Oasis is going to be a family heirloom passed down the generations, as Amazon steadfastly refuses to release an ergonomic e-reader with buttons.
borg16•1h ago
at this point it may be considered as form factor that has been deprecated, despite the advantages it brings
criddell•1h ago
I have an Oasis and if I could buy a new one with USB-C, I would. In fact, I'd probably buy at least two so that I have a backup.

The Scribe is interesting, but it's too small. Where's the 13" version? I want to mark up PDFs on a full size (A4 or Letter) display.

ternus•1h ago
I'm afraid to replace the battery in mine, since it's glued together. It's only a matter of time before it's unusable. The latest Kindle software is already glacially slow on it (waiting multiple seconds for taps to register).

I'd take the exact same form factor and screen but with the latest CPU and a new battery, even if it cost $300.

ForHackernews•55m ago
Kobo offers two separate models with buttons https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ereaders/kobo-ereaders-with-butto...
andrepd•50m ago
PocketBook and Kobo both have good alternatives. Go for them instead of Kindle.
schmiddim•39m ago
Was in the same situation last year and gave up waiting for a new Oasis or Voyage. Bought an Android Reader (Boox Go Color 7) with Buttons. Battery life is comparable to the Oasis, Buttons are OK. The Oasis is much better made. I really enjoy the App Koreader and the support for Bluetooth Remotes. I transfer my Epubs remote via Calibre.
loloquwowndueo•24m ago
I replaced my Kindle (2nd gen, 2009 vintage) with a Boox Go 7 (non color), can flip pages with the two side buttons, it’s very nice hardware and the software doesn’t get in the way.

Amazon doesn’t care about my super old kindle so I decided to also not care and just moved my collection of purchased books over to the Boox (using Calibre).

Fire-Dragon-DoL•1h ago
I bought the older version for very cheap and have been really enjoying it.

My daughter loves it: she reads on it and does homeworks on it.

It's the "tablet" that kids could he allowed to use: slow refresh rate (no videogames), can only read books and write.

And that's what she does! She reads books and writes on it, along with sketching or drawing mazes.

Fire-Dragon-DoL•1h ago
I think they are missing something important in the review, what they are saying it's incorrect.

You CAN write directly, but only to PDFs.

Epub and kindle get the notes slapped in a box of some kind.

The other thing they miss is that most ereaders don't have access to kindle's huge book catalog. A few full-on android devices do, but given the very outdated version of android they have, they night get cut out (as is happening for some) from the Kindle app, so no more books.

criddell•1h ago
> most ereaders don't have access to kindle's huge book catalog

Are you saying there are a lot of exclusives in their catalog, or just that Kobo devices (for example) can't access DRM'd Amazon books in the same way Kindles cannot access DRM'd Kobo books?

I've recently started buying books from Kobo even though my ereader is a Kindle just because I can strip the DRM from Kobo books.

nemomarx•45m ago
It's a combo - quite a lot of self published books are basically kindle exclusives and their Drm and format is now annoying to crack.
jabroni_salad•1h ago
So far every image I've seen of this thing is too professional to trust. It looks like they solved the kaleido contrast problem, but none of the reviewers are actually saying that in the text. I'd really like an amateur side by side against something with a carta 1300 so I can judge the b/w contrast properly.

( if you are not familiar, here is a sample. The device on the left has a color screen: https://i.imgur.com/4W7YZu3.png )

criddell•1h ago
Amazon has a generous return policy. You could always order one to test it then return it if it's not good enough.
packetlost•1h ago
I have both a Kindle Colorsoft (1st gen) and whatever the latest gen Paperwhite is and there's a noticeable contrast difference, but not nearly as bad as shown in that image. I find lack of sharpness to be more of a problem for very small fonts than the contrast.

I actively use both. I toyed with getting a Scribe because I read a lot of full size PDFs which aren't a great experience with such low refresh rates and small screens, but opted for an iPad instead. I owned a ReMarkable 2 a few years ago and don't really have anything good to say about it.

smileson2•1h ago
hard to care about anything kindle since amazon started to remove download and transfer options, they are willing to pull the rug out from under you on anything and everything
notepad0x90•1h ago
Kindle/ePub and audio books are great, authors are publishing more content from what I've seen that would be prohibitive to do so with print.

Personally, I need to not stare at a screen at some point and need to use print. It would be great if Amazon or someone else had a service that would take pdfs and epubs print them as mass market paperback and ships it to you. A lot of content is kindle/digital only these days unfortunately. I would think it won't cost > $20 per-print, I'd be willing to pay twice that plus shipping. Even for older books, you can only get used versions, and even then if you're lucky. It would be nice if the digital versions were available for on-demand printing.

jasonmarks_•55m ago
I own last years Kindle Scribe model and enjoy reading with it. Technically, I probably just like e-ink devices and this was my first e-ink purchase. The Notebook's (now Workspace?) are a compelling experience but it is unclear how the syncing feature protects data privacy. Pen and paper still has a cozier vibe when trying to keep drafts of ideas secure.

Two critiques: - Kindle would be a much better product if kindle.amazon.com took me to a dedicated UX that is not washed out by the e-commerce bloat that currently surrounds it. - You have to carefully purchase Kindle editions of books. There are definitely Kindle edition books for sale that are digitally scanned, imported, and compiled as a Kindle edition with no proof reading having occurred leaving you stuck with typo riddled messes.

WillAdams•20m ago
I've _never_ read an ebook w/o finding at least one typo --- and that includes _Dune_ which I didn't download until after the ebook had been out for over a decade ("pogrom" was mis-spelled as "program" and there was an error in formatting in the glossary) --- but this happens w/ print books as well, my second printing of Tolkien's _The Fall of Arthur_ had a typo (which when reported, I was promised would be fixed in subsequent printings).

The worst was the free copy of Heinlein's _Space Cadet_ I got from Sony on my PRS-505 because I was browsing their store on a day when they offered a $10 credit --- it was so riddled w/ typos that I had to get a print copy from the library to determine what some of them were.... the hilarious thing is that that "purchase" made me eligible for the ebook price fixing settlement, really should have kept and framed that check.

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