frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

The FreeBSD Foundation's Laptop Support and Usability Project

https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop
55•mikece•2h ago

Comments

mikece•2h ago
I'm curious why Apple doesn't support this effort: they have done a lot of the work and it won't exactly harm their market share.
dzogchen•1h ago
I'm curious why you think Apple would support any effort that does not benefit their bottom line?
rjsw•1h ago
Apple hasn't done any work that would be useful.
Lammy•9m ago
Weird to see this downvoted, because it's totally true. Apple imports FreeBSD's userland periodically but not its kernel/drivers, and thus has nothing to do with how well FreeBSD works on PC hardware: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Myths#FreeBSD_is_Just_macOS_Without...
E39M5S62•34m ago
Apple is struggling to make MacOS functional, why would they contribute engineering time to another OS?
OsrsNeedsf2P•22m ago
I still remember when MacOS being based on BSD had the community excited about the future
xp84•4m ago
I would expect if anyone even considered it, they’d immediately reject the idea, as they clearly believe that Apple retains ownership of the computers they “sell” and should control the software you could run on them.
wpm•2m ago
Users buying Macs to put BSD on them are less likely to buy things in the Mac App Store.
dzogchen•1h ago
So, is there a laptop that has good support for FreeBSD support out of the box?

My requirements are: suspend/resume, being able to drive a 5K monitor over USB-C, wifi.

I found https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

zeech•58m ago
I can't speak to it driving a monitor over USB-C as I don't use one, but I'm currently running 15.0-RELEASE on a refurbished Dell Latitude 7280 that has worked flawlessly out of the box so far.

Somebody else did a nice writeup [0] on their experience with FBSD on the same laptop.

[0] https://adventurist.me/posts/00352

nrp•26m ago
We’ve been working with Ed and team at FreeBSD on this, and have a document showing what works currently on Framework Laptops: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/freebsd-on-framework
jm4•3m ago
This is great. I've been checking on it periodically. I'm using the Framework 13 Ryzen AI 300 and the Framework Desktop so not quite there yet. Interested in taking FreeBSD for a spin when the support is there.
Lammy•35s ago
Small correction: the AX211 card in the Framework 12 is able to connect to networks, not just scan. What you're missing is that a bunch of the Wi-Fi firmware blobs were removed from the base system between FreeBSD 14.2 and 14.3, and since 14.3 came out in June 2025 I assume that's what was tested. An upgrade from 14.2 to 14.3 would also have kept working, just not a fresh install of 14.3 or 15.0.

A user needs some other working network connection first. I used my Android phone's USB tethering — all that takes is a quick `dhclient ue0`. Then one can run `fwget` to get the firmware that will make the Wi-Fi work fully: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?fwget%288%29

Source: very happy Framework 12 owner (currently dual-booting Windows 11 Enterprise and FreeBSD 15.0 + Wayland + KDE) :)

walterbell•1h ago
FreeBSD status on Apple Silicon, https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleSilicon
roywashere•48m ago
The table lists very limited support for M1 and not even lists newer variants! I guess it was only to be expected, asahi Linux also has challenges and of course FreeBSD has less eyeballs than Linux
LeFantome•21m ago
Linux is pretty much good to go on M1 or even M2 now. No joy on anything newer than that though.
styanax•45m ago
(random anecdote) My first and last experience with FreeBSD laptop was trying to use 3.x (!) on a Dell Inspiron 3500 (PII-350 maybe?), no sound modules were precompiled or included or whatever. Took about 3 days for `make world` to finally finish rebuilding... and then sound still not work. Red Hat 6.x "just worked" in all regards.
yjftsjthsd-h•15m ago
I mean. Judging by 3.x, that was literally 25-27 years ago. Not sure what that has to do with the project that exists today?
0x1ch•11m ago
Let me know when you can get a Dell XPS 13 (2024/25) working with FreeBSD out of the box without the need to hunt documentation down for the following.

- audio - wifi - biometrics - GPU drivers that work well.

Hacker News front page now, but the titles are honest

https://dosaygo-studio.github.io/hn-front-page-2035/news-honest.html
807•keepamovin•2h ago•179 comments

Cursor Acquires Graphite

https://graphite.com/blog/graphite-joins-cursor
72•timvdalen•1h ago•30 comments

Garage – An S3 object store so reliable you can run it outside datacenters

https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/
87•ibobev•1h ago•12 comments

GotaTun -- Mullvad's WireGuard Implementation in Rust

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/announcing-gotatun-the-future-of-wireguard-at-mullvad-vpn
358•km•5h ago•79 comments

I have to give Fortnite my passport to use Bluesky

https://spitfirenews.com/p/why-i-have-to-give-fortnite-my-passport-to-use-bluesky
29•malshe•30m ago•12 comments

Amazon will allow ePub and PDF downloads for DRM-free eBooks

https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/article/New-eBook-Download-Options-for-Readers-Coming-in-2026?lang...
320•captn3m0•7h ago•172 comments

The FreeBSD Foundation's Laptop Support and Usability Project

https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop
55•mikece•2h ago•19 comments

Believe the Checkbook

https://robertgreiner.com/believe-the-checkbook/
17•rg81•1h ago•4 comments

TikTok Deal Is the Shittiest Possible Outcome, Making Everything Worse

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/12/19/tiktok-deal-done-and-its-somehow-the-shittiest-possible-outco...
74•lateforwork•58m ago•37 comments

Beginning January 2026, all ACM publications will be made open access

https://dl.acm.org/openaccess
1893•Kerrick•1d ago•230 comments

Show HN: Stepped Actions – distributed workflow orchestration for Rails

https://github.com/envirobly/stepped
61•klevo•5d ago•9 comments

Texas is suing all of the big TV makers for spying on what you watch

https://www.theverge.com/news/845400/texas-tv-makers-lawsuit-samsung-sony-lg-hisense-tcl-spying
1091•tortilla•2d ago•546 comments

Getting bitten by Intel's poor naming schemes

https://lorendb.dev/posts/getting-bitten-by-poor-naming-schemes/
230•LorenDB•11h ago•119 comments

We pwned X, Vercel, Cursor, and Discord through a supply-chain attack

https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/5e2cdc32849405fff6b46957747a2d28
1032•hackermondev•22h ago•376 comments

AMD officially confirms fresh next-gen Zen 6 CPU details

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd-officially-confirms-fresh-next-gen-zen-6-cpu-details/
52•akyuu•2h ago•35 comments

1.5 TB of VRAM on Mac Studio – RDMA over Thunderbolt 5

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/15-tb-vram-on-mac-studio-rdma-over-thunderbolt-5
536•rbanffy•18h ago•185 comments

Building a Transparent Keyserver

https://words.filippo.io/keyserver-tlog/
27•noident•2h ago•7 comments

How to think about durable execution

https://hatchet.run/blog/durable-execution
65•abelanger•1w ago•20 comments

Noclip.website – A digital museum of video game levels

https://noclip.website/
362•ivmoreau•14h ago•46 comments

Does my key fob have more computing power than the Lunar lander?

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2469780/episodes/18340142-17-does-my-key-fob-have-more-computing-power...
17•jammcq•5d ago•9 comments

From Zero to QED: An informal introduction to formality with Lean 4

https://sdiehl.github.io/zero-to-qed/01_introduction.html
117•rwosync•5d ago•14 comments

History LLMs: Models trained exclusively on pre-1913 texts

https://github.com/DGoettlich/history-llms
653•iamwil•18h ago•315 comments

GPT-5.2-Codex

https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2-codex/
545•meetpateltech•22h ago•299 comments

Pingfs: Stores your data in ICMP ping packets (2020)

https://github.com/yarrick/pingfs
69•linkdd•5d ago•24 comments

Prepare for That Stupid World

https://ploum.net/2025-12-19-prepare-for-that-world.html
5•speckx•10m ago•0 comments

Prompt caching for cheaper LLM tokens

https://ngrok.com/blog/prompt-caching/
217•samwho•3d ago•47 comments

Designing a Passive Lidar Detector Device

https://www.atredis.com/blog/2025/11/20/designing-a-passive-lidar-detection-sensor
46•speckx•3d ago•4 comments

Graphite Is Joining Cursor

https://cursor.com/blog/graphite
51•fosterfriends•1h ago•20 comments

How China built its ‘Manhattan Project’ to rival the West in AI chips

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2025/12/18/tech/china-west-ai-chips/
417•artninja1988•22h ago•505 comments

Reconstructed Commander Keen 1-3 Source Code

https://pckf.com/viewtopic.php?t=18248
138•deevus•13h ago•25 comments