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Daft Punk Easter Egg in the BPM Tempo of Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger?

https://www.madebywindmill.com/tempi/blog/hbfs-bpm/
160•simonw•2h ago

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xvxvx•2h ago
Thinking back to when Aphex Twin encoded his face into a track: https://www.bastwood.com/?page_id=10
styluss•2h ago
And Venetian Snares encoded his cat https://eeggs.com/items/46956.html
tantalor•1h ago
And Benn encoded a bird into birdsong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo
gaazoh•40m ago
And Disasterpeace encoded a puzzle in the Fez soundtrack: https://blog.krzyhau.pl/fez-spectrograms-adventure (and nobody has solved it in over a decade!)

Also, C418 put a creeper face in Minecraft's soundtrack.

afandian•1h ago
Thanks for the reminder of eeggs.com! It still has an Easter egg I found in my printer that I submitted 25 years ago. I wonder how many models of obsolete hardware that site documents...
duskwuff•1h ago
Into the final track of an album titled "Songs About My Cats", titled "Look". :3

There's a better visualization of the track here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHup81lEjqo

gregoryl•45m ago
It shouldn't be surprising to see people who know Venetian Snares on here!

If you're up for it, trade a music rec?

Try:

Scorpion Mother - Thief https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3113EQvLg

wonger_•15m ago
I found Venetian Snares last year and one of their songs made my year-in-review: https://wonger.dev/posts/2025#music

Certain Indian music and metal seems to scratch a similar itch for me. And of course orchestra and drum n bass.

jasongill•12m ago
it's worth noting that the parent commenter's link includes a good render of this easter egg in the article as well (it's the last one on the page)
altairprime•1h ago
This is thematically amazing when you consider what the song is about — the roboticization of the abducted band. (Music video:)

https://youtu.be/gAjR4_CbPpQ

In this song, which is also chapter four of the movie Interstella 5000 movie (spoilers from here!), the knocked-out singers are scanned, parameterized, brainwashed, uploaded into The Matrix, and then used in the following songs of the movie-album to robotically mass produce music.

It makes perfect sense that the BPM is 123.45 because that’s exactly the sort of thing you get when a manager (who’s shown at the end!) just enters some numbers on the keyboard into the bpm field. They don’t keysmash the numpad; they just hit 123456789 until the field is full!

So not only does the song itself convey what some boss thinks is music, robotically beating at 123.45 bpm, but it is itself about being endlessly-rotating brainwashed-boring cogs in a pop music production industrial machine. I’m pretty sure the movie scene cuts and animations are timed specifically to the beats of the song, but knowing that they’re timed to a machine-specific bpm that a human would never select at random with a metronome?

Absolute genius.

I had no idea. Thanks for posting this.

EDIT: At 123.4567bpm, I think the track has precisely 0.2345 seconds of silence before the first 'beat' of the song and actually has 456 beats total, which is either numerological nonsense or pure genius by Daft Punk. Math elsethread :)

rightbyte•27m ago
It surely adds a nice flavor to one of their best songs. There wont be one time when the song is played from now on where I wont proclaim the this specific trivia.
brcmthrowaway•1h ago
Tell me when we can get realtime stem splitting!
shermantanktop•50m ago
You already have a hardware-accelerated pair attached to your head!
jonas21•1h ago
There's a minor issue with the calculations. It should be:

    60 * 445 / 216.276 = 123.453365145
    
    60 * 445 / 216.282 = 123.449940356
Not the other way around. And since the timing is only given with millisecond accuracy, the bpm should be rounded to the same number of significant digits:

    60 * 445 / 216.276 = 123.453
    
    60 * 445 / 216.282 = 123.450
So, it's the YouTube version that's 123.45 bpm to within the rounding error.
altairprime•55m ago
Huh. Get out your red string and pushpins because this inspired a theory.

So if the correct pair of values there ends up being 445 / 216.27000197, then it'll be:

60 * 445 / 216.27000197 = 123.456789

Or, since one of those programs had four decimals:

60 * 445 / 216.27015788 = 123.4567

Or, if it's 444/446 rather than 445:

60 * 444 / 215.78415752 = 123.4567

60 * 446 / 216.75615823 = 123.4567

But I see that they cut the "whooshing intro" at the front, which I imagine is part of the beat — they're in the hands of the machine now, after all! — so if we retroactively construct 123.4567 bpm into the silence (which, they estimate, is 5.58s):

5.58s * (123.4567bpm / 60s) = 11.4814731 beats

Assuming that the half a beat of slop silence there has to do with format / process limitations with CD track-seeking rather than specific artistic intent, we get:

+11 intervals @ 123.4567 bpm = 5.346s

Which, when added to the original calculation, shows:

60 * (445 + 11) / (3:41.85 - (0.5.58s - 0:5.346s)) = 123.4567 bpm

And so we end up with a duration of 221.616 seconds between the calculated 'first' beat, a third of a second into the song, and the measured 'last' beat from the post:

60 * 456 / 221.616 = 123.4567 bpm

Or if we use the rounded 123.45 form:

60 * 456 / 221.628 = 123.45 bpm

And while that 22+1.628 is-that-a-golden-ratio duration is interesting and all, the most important part here is that, with 123.4567bpm, I think it's got precisely 0.2345 seconds of silence before the first 'beat' of the song (the math checks out^^ to three digits compared against the first 'musical beat' at 5.58s!), and so I think there's actually 456 beats in the robotic 123.45 song!

:D

^^ the math, because who doesn't love a parenthetical with a footnote in a red-string diagram (cackles maniacally)

5.58s - (60 * 11/123.4567) = 0.2339961 ~= 0.234

5.58057179s = 0.23456789 + (60 * 11/123.4567)

oars•1h ago
Daft Punk continues to awe us, even after their retirement.

Can't believe it's been almost 20 years since Alive 2007!

boca_honey•40m ago
Non related. Are your comments translated with AI or AI generated?
khazhoux•20m ago
Which part of that two line comment made you think it was AI generated?? Are you imagining he did something like this:

prompt> You are a commenter on a popular tech-focused discussion forum. Write a comment about how Daft Punk still surprises us, despite the fact that they're retired. Include a note about how much time has passed since they last performed. Also, include the album name itself. The comment should be brief and mildly enthusiastic. Phrase it in such a way as to attract many upvotes from community members.

chatgpt> Daft Punk continues to awe us, even after their retirement. Can't believe it's been almost 20 years since Alive 2007!

---

I swear, the AI Policing around here is getting annoying.

moomin•56m ago
My supplemental question would be: what BPM is Cola Bottle Baby?
alexjplant•37m ago
For those not familiar "Cola Bottle Baby" is the Edwin Birdsong tune [1] that Daft Punk sampled for "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger". I heard the sample first but think I prefer the original at this point (despite the songs being different genres). Lots of interesting stuff going on with the bass guitar and chorus that's missing in the Daft Punk cut.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiD39jo5Yo4

relaxing•9m ago
I count it at 116 bpm. Nice and funky, just like mama liked it.
chews•51m ago
Daft Punk are totally of the smart sort to do this kind of easteregg. They're just a clever band, another fun Daft Punk easter egg, they were in a band with Phoenix called Darlin'. (Daft Punk got their name from a review of the Darlin' record)
HelloUsername•40m ago
Just tried this in Reaper. It's actually much closer to 123.47

Anyway that album, Discovery, is full of funny bits. Track #11 Veridis Quo sounds like "very disco". Turn those two words around, and you got the album's title.

rightbyte•16m ago
Did you mark or like did a FFT of some sort?
HelloUsername•11m ago
I imported the .wav track from the CD, manually put the BPM on 123.45, cut the first 21 seconds intro out (easier to sync on the main beat), and from there started dragging the track and adjusting the BPM, so that the first bar of the song and the last bar of the song were still on beat. My findings is that it's somewhere between .47 and .48
anigbrowl•26m ago
Almost all electronic music is synced to a sequencer and so obviously is going to have a very steady tempo.

Haha if only

Well the tempo is steady by human standards, but latency and jitter on timing signals are recurring issues in electronic music. Some devices put out very steady timing but don't like being slaved to another device, bugs can creep in at loop points or pattern switching (even on Roland's latest flagship drum machine, which costs most of $3000), things can get messy if there is too much note/controller data and so on.

Rebelgecko•24m ago
Is the tempo continuous? It's also possible the tempo just shifts between 123.4 and 123.5 to average out to 123.45
default-kramer•18m ago
> But for the time being there remain a few things that humans can do very easily which computers find difficult. Along with counting traffic lights and crosswalks, one of those things is finding the exact BPM of a song. Not an estimate like most software does, but the exact value with extreme precision across the entire song.

I thought BPM detection has been extremely precise for some time now (for electronic music anyway). Does this mean when software like Mixxx reports (for example) 125 BPM the raw output of the algorithm might have been 124.99, but some higher logic replaces it with an even 125?

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