Other than that, is that some ai-slop-comment?
Other than, if it sounds like "ai slop" to you, you probably did not expect a properly written statement from real people. It gotten to a point someone saying real world experience witnessed by me as "ai slop". This HN land became unfamiliar alien land to me now. Do I need to force myself to sound trivial, incorrect, slangish?
Edit: okay they did mention fewer deaths from other causes such as cancer and heart disease.
We just finally got my 85-yr-old mother to move out of her house into a nice apartment near us with elevator access. She has already had some bad falls. Now we just have to worry about her driving. She shouldn't need to drive as much in her new place, but she probably will anyway.
Lots of new pastimes involve climbing up, diving off, or jumping between very tall things.
Usually with some sort of recording/streaming device strapped to the hobbyist.
...Oh wait, are you saying there are more old people now? That's interesting.
Not only are there more falls among the elderly, there are more falls even fully accounting for changes in age composition of the population.
>>But an aging population only partially explains the rise in these deaths. Deaths by falls have risen 2.4-fold on an age-adjusted basis. While they have fallen among younger people and only risen slightly among the middle aged, they have risen substantially within every age bracket of the elderly.
I read that fall injuries in the elderly are a significant contributor to both death and drops in quality of life.
When it comes to proprioception and balance one group of people over 60 seem to have equivalent balance to younger people and that is certain kinds of rollerbladers.
So as a person who was relatively active (40mi+ per week biking and other things) I started rollerblading and it's been unbelievable, I'm older and certain types of movements that take 8yr olds a couple weeks to learn took me nearly a year, it's absolutely amazing though, pain and soreness in parts of my leg and feet all related to stabilization, significantly strengthened stabilization muscles and improved reaction times at speed. I figure if I can rollerblade on one foot at 15 miles an hour, walking with both feet at 3 should be no problem.
I put rollerblading and bouldering as my top two 'puzzle' based activities.
I did an Ozempic stint and noticed my bone density had decreased to the bottom 3 percentile for my age, and I lost muscle as well.
It's all on me, of course, but I wonder if this phenomenon is widespread, and if it'll result in more deaths from falls.
Since 2000 all of these things, and the amount of tech per household in general, have gone up quite a bit. I'm surprised it wasn't listed as a hypothesis worth looking at.
Since 2020 the price of maintaining anything in your house has exploded, coupled with dwindling value of fixed incomes, which has got to be getting a lot more old people up on ladders.
Going down the same line of thought, how many people are attempting DIY repairs that they never would have before because of youtube and other resources? I know that I have done way more work on my home than my parents or grandparents ever did.
The hypotheses in the article are much stronger. To me, the increasing use of mind altering drugs in geriatric care is an obvious contributor... so much so that these drugs list that risk on the label.
Actually, the Elderly are even more hooked into technology and its distractions.
The Phone-Based Retirement Is Here - https://archive.ph/eieyI
I would hope the article is better than the gut feeling of some random programmer commenting on hn before his standup.
The increase was greatest in the groups least likely to engage in that behavior.
I must point out that the elders in my life are the most tech addicted people I know. They barely know how to use it, but they never put it down. Which means they are constantly struggling to get their fix. I saw this behavior 25 years ago doing tech support for a dial-up ISP, and it has become way more common since. To the point that the senior citizen posting nonsense on facebook, and forwarding email chains is a common trope.
Again, I'm sure the article is doing better research than my personal experience, I was just surprised it wasn't mentioned.
... leading to loss of awareness of surroundings and smooth movement disruptions.
I very much agree with you that this most certainly is a factor in addition to the others listed in the article.
>Wisconsin, Maine, Vermont, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Dakota. The two states in the top 10 that are not notably snowy are Oklahoma and Oregon.
It's not just the chance of falling itself that warrants a look. More weight also means more energy dissipated.
On top of that, the problems with falls start to get really serious once fractures get into play [1].
What I can't find any data on is a change of floor material compositions. Anecdotally, I remember many of my older relatives having really soft carpets in their homes, while in more modern homes and even care institutions you will find hard material - hard carpet, wood, tiles or in institutions, straight concrete. All of these have the advantage that you can keep them clean and hygienic with far less effort - but damn, even as a younger person it hurts much more tripping over my cat when in areas with hard flooring. And they're slippery when wet!
For an older or obeser person, it sounds at least plausible that the flooring material contributes to more severe (and, consequentially, more fatal) fall events.
[1] https://www.rechtsdepesche.de/hohe-sterblichkeit-nach-gefaeh...
If the latter, it seems the elderly have gotten worse at falling, possibly because they fall less at young age, and aren’t as good in breaking their fall as before.
And yes, it will be difficult to gather data on ”fell with little consequences”, but for the elderly, many falls will lead to doctor visits, so there likely is data on that.
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