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Why have death rates from accidental falls tripled?

https://usafacts.org/articles/why-have-death-rates-from-accidental-falls-tripled/
37•atlasunshrugged•2h ago

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florgashmorg•1h ago
everyone be trippin'
blakesterz•1h ago
I guess the hypothesis makes sense. They say it's probably Drugs, Alcohol, Obesity and Fourth, some of the increase may be due to changes in reporting. As people have become more aware of the danger of falls, falls that used to not be recorded as a cause of death may increasingly be reported as a cause.
PurpleRamen•1h ago
I'm curious how many deadly falls are the result of an ilness. Would having an heart attack in an unlucky moment skew the statistics? I guess they normally would not research the cause of death deeper if there is an obvious reason.
storus•1h ago
I'd add overwhelmingly increasing stupidity by enforced safety, preventing people from learning from their (small) mistakes, leading to big ones. Just recently I was talking to a friend about how everything agile is being exterminated in favor of safety, e.g. police chasing two lonely cars slowly drifting on a frozen public mountain road during the night with no other cars/people in sight due to "endangering public". How else should people learn how to handle critical situations than being exposed to them in a low-risk controlled manner?
taeric•56m ago
Large changes almost always represent a change in reporting, don't they?
bell-cot•1h ago
From sad experience with my own family - I'd also consider declining quality of treatment. Patients who fell may be neither cool nor lucrative for the medical-industrial complex. Also said complex protecting its own, by attributing some "oops, we goofed" deaths to falls.
zkmon•1h ago
People fall because the surroundings are unfamiliar, their trust and assumptions about things around them, and about themselves, have gone wrong. Why does this discrepancy arise? For older people, the world around them and food they eat has changed too fast, to the extent of being an alien land. They walk on a surface, making assumptions based on what they were familiar with in the past. But the surface is no longer the same. They eat the changed food, assuming that it will keep them as strong as before. That turns out to be false as well. Most old people feel that they are living in a world that is completely unfamiliar and untrustworthy.
Sharlin•1h ago
I think this can be seen here up north, where people fall through ice and drown every fall and (more commonly) spring. It's not a new thing – these people are almost always male, at least in their 50s, alone on the ice, and taking stupid unnecessary risks trying to reach their favorite ice fishing spot or whatever – but I can't help but think that increasingly these deaths are caused by assumptions that the ice is strong enough because it has "always been at this time of the year". Except that it isn't, not anymore. Or even if it is this year, the annual variance is much greater.
PurpleRamen•1h ago
The rise is independant of age, but with younger people even greater.

Other than that, is that some ai-slop-comment?

zkmon•44m ago
Ofcourse, it applies to younger people as well. I didn't exclude them.

Other than, if it sounds like "ai slop" to you, you probably did not expect a properly written statement from real people. It gotten to a point someone saying real world experience witnessed by me as "ai slop". This HN land became unfamiliar alien land to me now. Do I need to force myself to sound trivial, incorrect, slangish?

PurpleRamen•40m ago
This is so disconnected from the real world that it has to be ai, because I don't want to think someone on this platform can be so ridiclious.
havblue•1h ago
Aside from alcohol and obesity, I don't see: 1. Cancer survivability. If people aren't dying from cancer they will be more likely to die from a fall in a weakened state. 2. Two level homes are a higher percentage of new construction and people are more able to afford it when they're older.

Edit: okay they did mention fewer deaths from other causes such as cancer and heart disease.

Finnucane•1h ago
The article did address differences in the rates of 'same level falls' vs. stairs, etc. So they accounted for that too.

We just finally got my 85-yr-old mother to move out of her house into a nice apartment near us with elevator access. She has already had some bad falls. Now we just have to worry about her driving. She shouldn't need to drive as much in her new place, but she probably will anyway.

rossdavidh•59m ago
Fewer small (one-level) homes is an excellent point. Also a lot of old people used to live in trailer homes or mobile homes, which are also one-level.
irishcoffee•1h ago
Those two maps don't agree about Idaho.
amelius•1h ago
E-bikes?
technothrasher•1h ago
The CDC separates pedal cyclist causes of death from fall causes, so they wouldn't be reflected in this data.
patapong•1h ago
Would be interested to see a breakdown of what type of falls these are. Falls in bathrooms, outside or on ice?
binary132•1h ago
Very old people are a larger proportion of the total population than before.
fifticon•1h ago
It is weird that the graphed increase grows steadily at presumably the same rate - there is no spike or bump or curve. I wonder if that indicates anything. Disregarding the shape of the graph, I would have guessed at a change in reporting instead. The steadily rising curve almost looks like something being gradually employed. At some point, the curve ought to change direction, if not before, then after the last person has fallen over.
grugdev42•1h ago
Idiocy?

Lots of new pastimes involve climbing up, diving off, or jumping between very tall things.

Usually with some sort of recording/streaming device strapped to the hobbyist.

grumpopotamus•1h ago
The article says death rates from falls in younger people has declined.
meindnoch•1h ago
This might be evidence that the gravitational constant G is changing (increasing) over time! Could this be the explanation for dark matter and dark energy?
rob74•1h ago
Occam's razor says it's less likely that the gravitational constant is increasing and more likely that the ability to withstand the pull of gravity decreases with age.
dec0dedab0de•1h ago
Well of course old people fall more, but the article is about changes over the last 20 years.

...Oh wait, are you saying there are more old people now? That's interesting.

jibal•1h ago
It's back end of the post-war boom.
toss1•21m ago
Which was specifically addressed early in the article.

Not only are there more falls among the elderly, there are more falls even fully accounting for changes in age composition of the population.

>>But an aging population only partially explains the rise in these deaths. Deaths by falls have risen 2.4-fold on an age-adjusted basis. While they have fallen among younger people and only risen slightly among the middle aged, they have risen substantially within every age bracket of the elderly.

rossdavidh•1h ago
Article says age-adjusted fall rates are up substantially, so it's not just older population.
fellowniusmonk•51m ago
People rollerblade less.

I read that fall injuries in the elderly are a significant contributor to both death and drops in quality of life.

When it comes to proprioception and balance one group of people over 60 seem to have equivalent balance to younger people and that is certain kinds of rollerbladers.

So as a person who was relatively active (40mi+ per week biking and other things) I started rollerblading and it's been unbelievable, I'm older and certain types of movements that take 8yr olds a couple weeks to learn took me nearly a year, it's absolutely amazing though, pain and soreness in parts of my leg and feet all related to stabilization, significantly strengthened stabilization muscles and improved reaction times at speed. I figure if I can rollerblade on one foot at 15 miles an hour, walking with both feet at 3 should be no problem.

I put rollerblading and bouldering as my top two 'puzzle' based activities.

astura•35m ago
Yoga has balance poses and is much more accessible than rollerblading.
dxdm•55m ago
This would also explain why my bathroom scale has been showing larger and larger numbers to me! Genius. I'd say you're onto something, but I can't tell if you're also joking.
xvector•1h ago
Could less physical labor lead to weaker bones or atrophied muscles leading to greater fall mortality?

I did an Ozempic stint and noticed my bone density had decreased to the bottom 3 percentile for my age, and I lost muscle as well.

It's all on me, of course, but I wonder if this phenomenon is widespread, and if it'll result in more deaths from falls.

dec0dedab0de•1h ago
I would assume it is because of the extra distractions now. Everything becoming "smarter" and more addictive. How many were looking at their phones, hurrying back to catch the increasingly manipulative "news", or frustrated because their voice assistant didn't understand them?

Since 2000 all of these things, and the amount of tech per household in general, have gone up quite a bit. I'm surprised it wasn't listed as a hypothesis worth looking at.

netsharc•1h ago
This is my first guess too. There's some stat that says more people die from falling while they try to frame a selfie compared to dying because of shark attacks... (Ok death by shark is actually quite rare)
kube-system•1h ago
The death rates increased 200% for 85+ year olds but deceased for people under 35.
mothballed•56m ago
I wonder if it's about 1/3 as easy to find an under 35 year old handyman as it was in the year 2000.

Since 2020 the price of maintaining anything in your house has exploded, coupled with dwindling value of fixed incomes, which has got to be getting a lot more old people up on ladders.

dec0dedab0de•47m ago
I almost mentioned that too, but I thought I was going to expose myself for being bad at maintaining my house.

Going down the same line of thought, how many people are attempting DIY repairs that they never would have before because of youtube and other resources? I know that I have done way more work on my home than my parents or grandparents ever did.

kube-system•1h ago
The increase was greatest in the groups least likely to engage in that behavior.

The hypotheses in the article are much stronger. To me, the increasing use of mind altering drugs in geriatric care is an obvious contributor... so much so that these drugs list that risk on the label.

rramadass•58m ago
> the groups least likely to engage in that behavior.

Actually, the Elderly are even more hooked into technology and its distractions.

The Phone-Based Retirement Is Here - https://archive.ph/eieyI

dec0dedab0de•55m ago
The hypotheses in the article are much stronger. To me, the increasing use of mind altering drugs in geriatric care is an obvious contributor... so much so that these drugs list that risk on the label.

I would hope the article is better than the gut feeling of some random programmer commenting on hn before his standup.

The increase was greatest in the groups least likely to engage in that behavior.

I must point out that the elders in my life are the most tech addicted people I know. They barely know how to use it, but they never put it down. Which means they are constantly struggling to get their fix. I saw this behavior 25 years ago doing tech support for a dial-up ISP, and it has become way more common since. To the point that the senior citizen posting nonsense on facebook, and forwarding email chains is a common trope.

Again, I'm sure the article is doing better research than my personal experience, I was just surprised it wasn't mentioned.

kube-system•50m ago
Elderly people scroll facebook while sitting down, not while walking around... especially if they are of the physical condition where a fall at grade would kill them.
dec0dedab0de•40m ago
My mother fell and broke her shoulder a few years ago because she heard a ding on her ipad and was rushing back to check it. In 1999, it would have only been the telephone giving her alerts.
rawgabbit•47m ago
Anecdotally, several of my extended family are now on SSRIs because it helps alleviates their pain from rheumatoid arthritis. My mom in particular often complains about fainting; if I was taking similar high dosages of painkillers, SSRIs, and other drugs targeting the nervous system I would faint too.
rramadass•1h ago
> I would assume it is because of the extra distractions now

... leading to loss of awareness of surroundings and smooth movement disruptions.

I very much agree with you that this most certainly is a factor in addition to the others listed in the article.

mhb•1h ago
I'll throw this out. Due to inflation and cheaper goods (Baumol effect) more people are engaged in activities which can lead to accidental falls - DIY projects like cleaning gutters.
Aboutplants•1h ago
Now graph this against the rise of mobile devices…
alphazard•1h ago
If you are sharing facts like "Wisconsin falls are more deadly than Alabama falls", then you need to address the more obvious hypotheses that are conjured in the readers head. I found no mention of "ice" or "slippery", and instead the article blazed forward with it's preferred explanation without providing evidence to dismiss the more obvious hypotheses.
rossdavidh•1h ago
Presumably because the Wisconsin-vs-Alabama differences have not significantly changed in the last few decades? Wisconsin has been a lot snowier than Alabama for a long time.
shmeeed•1h ago
>Another state-level predictor of accidental fall death rates is wintry weather: eight of the 10 states with the highest age-adjusted rates are notably snowy.

>Wisconsin, Maine, Vermont, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Dakota. The two states in the top 10 that are not notably snowy are Oklahoma and Oregon.

0_____0•59m ago
I have slipped on black ice in Portland OR.
red-iron-pine•11m ago
bruised my tailbone bad enough to see a doctor after a slip on black ice in VA
reimertz•1h ago
maybe because we now walk around with phones in our hands looking at screens. So when falling, we’re less prepared?
mschuster91•44m ago
> Third, it may be due to increased rates of obesity. A CDC study found that obesity increased the propensity for someone to fall in a laboratory setting. And obesity rates among people 60 and older rose from about 32.8% in 2001-2002 to 38.5% in recent years.

It's not just the chance of falling itself that warrants a look. More weight also means more energy dissipated.

On top of that, the problems with falls start to get really serious once fractures get into play [1].

What I can't find any data on is a change of floor material compositions. Anecdotally, I remember many of my older relatives having really soft carpets in their homes, while in more modern homes and even care institutions you will find hard material - hard carpet, wood, tiles or in institutions, straight concrete. All of these have the advantage that you can keep them clean and hygienic with far less effort - but damn, even as a younger person it hurts much more tripping over my cat when in areas with hard flooring. And they're slippery when wet!

For an older or obeser person, it sounds at least plausible that the flooring material contributes to more severe (and, consequentially, more fatal) fall events.

[1] https://www.rechtsdepesche.de/hohe-sterblichkeit-nach-gefaeh...

amelius•41m ago
People look on their smartphones too much. They don't even look where they are walking anymore.
Someone•34m ago
I didn’t see this discussing whether falls have become more dangerous. How much of this is because the elderly fall more often and how much because, if they fall, they’re more likely to die?

If the latter, it seems the elderly have gotten worse at falling, possibly because they fall less at young age, and aren’t as good in breaking their fall as before.

And yes, it will be difficult to gather data on ”fell with little consequences”, but for the elderly, many falls will lead to doctor visits, so there likely is data on that.

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