I can't think of any large downsides, it would mean every submission would have an available snapshot for the given time, and we would no longer need a user comment to provide this.
IANAL, but it would seem to me HN couldn't be liable, since it is a third party (archive.is/org) caching the site. In fact, I always assumed that's why the links aren't removed.
further, if intent would be a possible defence, I already mentioned that archiving everything looks better than only having links when there are paywalls, active or otherwise.
from a moral position, I don't think HN moves the needle wrt enabling bypassing - most if not all HN users are likely fully capable of using archiving sites themselves, if not automating the process themselves.
How much work to enable auto paywall busting? >$0
How much reward? $0
How much extra risk that a publisher will make your life difficult, regardless of morality or the letter of the law? >0%
I can't imagine why they would bother when HN users seem happy enough to do the work for free.
It's also IMHO a misplaced or false criticism, per my other comments in this thread.
You don't think phrasing like "There's a thing called 'copyright'", as if I'm not aware of what copyright is, isn't condescending?
Now, either of you relate that concept to a suggestion that HN link to archive.org
The premise was that this is so obvious that my naivety is funny. But no, you don't want to debate that point - Why would you care to consider otherwise, it's not you losing face if correct.
Here's an uninvited counterpoint anyway:
https://blog.archive.org/2024/03/01/fair-use-in-action-at-th...
You'll also notice that the link in this post (https://archive.is/TajtJ) shows a 'log in' button, implying that log-in credentials where not used (or abused) to get/share this snapshot.
That such a blog post exists at least suggests the legal “question” exists, which again is the only thing I said in the first place.
No, not really. You just seem to be trying to pick a fight.
> Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property.
> What can I do to prevent this in the future?
> If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware.
Love how actual captcha spyware has turned to victim-blaming to justify its existence.
AI has ruined everything good and free for everyone except a few oligarchs.
But it is not; my IP is a residential address paid for with a credit card associated to a human who visits like 6 websites.
[0]: https://developers.cloudflare.com/waf/tools/privacy-pass/ [1]: RFC 9576 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9576.html, RFC 9577 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9577.html, RFC 9578 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9578.html
I believe they check your mouse for human-like movement as an additional factor. Could be wrong but I haven't been bothered by many captchas in the last couple years.
But yeah, with a bit of planning you can turn it into a yes-and situation.
Also: 48 hours. Can you provide for yourself and your neighbor for 48 hours without any help from the authorities? Does the Kanban card for pasta and tomato sauce always leave 10000 calories in the pantry? Got firewood, matches, and know where the nearest spring is? (This is easier in a culture where we still have running fountains with dates like 1780 on them.)
Oh wow, that's cool. May I ask what culture that is?
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