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Greenpeace pilot brings heat pumps and solar to Ukrainian community

https://www.pveurope.eu/power2heat/greenpeace-pilot-brings-heat-pumps-and-solar-ukrainian-community
22•doener•2h ago

Comments

newsclues•1h ago
Solar seems vulnerable in a war.
iso1631•1h ago
If you have solar on your roof and a bomb hits it, you have no power. And no roof. Power is the least of your problems.

If you have a central power nuclear/gas/coal station and a bomb hits it, nobody has power.

woodpanel•1h ago
> If you have a central power nuclear/gas/coal station and a bomb hits it, nobody has power.

if that happens it can be repaired more economically and faster – as has been repeatedly shown in Ukraine.

kilington•52m ago
I think we need to look harder at the concept of survivor bias and what it doesn't mean for future chance if anyone believes Ukraine nuclear power stations suffering damage as routinely as any other physical asset would have been OK.
ekianjo•2m ago
The grid never relies on a single source
Mashimo•31m ago
Solar + battery helps against shorter blackouts, to at least keep your freezer and fridge running. All while they repair the grid.
NicuCalcea•7m ago
Compared to what? Gas, nuclear and hydro seem even more vulnerable.
Kuinox•1h ago
Green Planet Energy, have been greenwashing fossil gas, especially russian gas, for years.
willis936•1h ago
My first thought was "Greenpeace, the fossil fuel mouthpiece that killed the nuclear industry?"

I'm not sure why I'd care about news related to them that wasn't their dismantling.

Kuinox•1h ago
From greenwashing to ethic washing, they are sure good at washing.
woodpanel•1h ago
These guys...

after decades of destroying nuclear, German energy independence and thus pegging German energy sourcing to Russian pipelines, resulting in the geopolitical mess we and Ukraine are in – to have the gall to even pretend they're doing any good here...

lysium•37m ago
What are you talking about? Germany would be more energy independent if it had adopted solar and wind power when Greenpeace was advocating it fourty years ago, like China is showcasing today!
lnsru•9m ago
The question is not if renewables can replace nuclear. Obviously it is technically possible. The question is how many times bigger should be installed peak power of renewables. 20x? 50x? And of course if it’s economically viable. Because China does not gamble with renewables. They build nuclear capacity at unprecedented levels.
ekianjo•5m ago
They would depend on china instead of Russia. huge improvement! /s
zihotki•46m ago
The problem is that they're useless during winter in Ukrain. There is barely any energy generated between November and March. And heatpump won't work during frequent outages. Nice but kinda useless gesture
nutjob2•18m ago
Heat pumps work fine on batteries. The better solution is extensive battery storage and (intermittent) grid power, under the circumstances.
ZeroGravitas•9m ago
They mention large hot water stores which are cheaper and simpler than batteries for storing heat, at least for now.
piokoch•17m ago
How solar can help Ukraine now? When there weather is foggy, cloudy? How heap pump can help if there are electricity outages?

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