Another incentive to go buy an EV.

That is a wildly misleading headline…

Fortunately there are only approximately 5 lexus cars in all Germany.

My audi can do this without the engine running I dunno why lexus cant…

That's quite a clickbaity headline!

It's forcing lexus to disable the remote starting of ICE vehicles so that they can be idled and warm-up pre-use.

Idling is regulated in a bunch of places, for reasons of emissions and air pollution. For instance it's illegal to park up and idle your engine on a public road in the UK.

Is this move by the German government reasonable? I'm not sure, but it's not completely out of the blue, or as severe as the headline would lead you to believe.

At the very least, the incendiary tone makes this article suspect.

While I understand the concern...

> regulators who decided warming up your car counts as environmental terrorism.

... this is rather hyperbolic. They decided it counts as excess emissions. That's debatable but it's a pretty strong case.

Anyway, yeah, don't connect your car to the Internet. Including for remote starting.

The tone in the article is so off. We are clearly headed for a climate disaster, being whiners about having to manually de ice your windshield is so very childish.

I understand there is a broader topic of regulators impacting what can and can’t be done but isn’t that just having a government?

That’s great! People who do that are often inconsiderate of how it affect others. First of all, it generates unnecessary noise, which is annoying for neighbors who are still trying to sleep. Pedestrians/cyclists also need to breathe those exhaust gases.

Looking at Gadget Review's front page, stories are a bit creative and sensational. The article is not a news report, but an anti-green diatribe; for example:

> Your luxury car just became the latest battlefield in Europe’s climate wars, where bureaucrats decide which buttons work in your own vehicle. The real question isn’t whether remote start causes pollution—it’s whether you still own the features you bought.

There are still real questions here. I wonder how the feature was sold in the first place. Does it predate the relevant laws?

Also, what would it take to add an aftermarket electric engine warmer? I know people in some northern climates have accessories that plug in and warm the engine, but maybe those come with the car.

Preheating is not in general forbidden in Germany, but you need a proper stationary heating system (can be even combustion based). Lexus probably has implemented it with the main combustion engine as remote start, which is a poor-man solution and considered inefficient and illegal.

Headline (HN and original) is misleading. It suggests Lexus needs to disable heating altogether via an OTA update.

Rather, it sounds like they want to disable remote engine start for preheating the car. Which is a very different proposal.

If this was 1970s, I'd maybe feel differently about it, but since we put so much CO2 into the air already, winters are really tame in Europe anyway.