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Days numbered for 'risky' lithium-ion batteries

https://www.livescience.com/technology/engineering/days-numbered-for-risky-lithium-ion-batteries-scientists-say-after-fast-charging-breakthrough-in-sodium-ion-alternative
23•Brajeshwar•1h ago

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Havoc•1h ago
Wouldn’t mind not having lithium in my pocket. And in ears for that matter (earbuds)
nippoo•44m ago
By the same ticket, you really also don't want elemental sodium in your ear. Don't let the fact it's commonly found in sodium chloride alongside chlorine (something else you don't want in your pocket!) lull you into a false sense of security.

Sodium is actually more reactive than lithium and explodes on contact with water. There's a few things that make the battery chemistry less likely to undergo thermal runaway, but sodium is not a safe metal...

CamperBob2•33m ago
How does the safety of sodium ion batteries compare to LiFePO4? It's not the presence of lithium that causes the problem, it's the way it's used in traditional lithium-ion cells. I've never heard of a fire being caused by LiFePO4 cells.
wolvoleo•1h ago
Interesting. It will also cause geopolitical changes because lithium is a rare earth mineral. And Sodium is obviously abundant.

This sounds still very academic though and be aware that these things take time to industrialise. Also sometimes it doesn't pan out in the end.

The fire hazard might be reduced but of course any battery storing so much energy in a small place has some kind of hazard. Hopefully the runaway fire providing its own oxygen is solved here though, this is the main reason it's so hard to put the lithium battery fires out.

dylan604•1h ago
Even if the number of days is 10,000+, that's still a number /s
Robotbeat•57m ago
Lithium is not a rare earth mineral. Huge pet peeve. This is a technical term. It’s also not particularly rare.
wolvoleo•24m ago
Rate earth minerals aren't necessarily rare, it means that you have to move a huge amount of earth to get a tiny bit of ore. That's still true for lithium and its mining pretty polluting too. And it's limited to specific regions globally.

Our sea is full of sodium however.

didgeoridoo•6m ago
“Rare” as in “rarified”, not “uncommon”.
papa0101•1h ago
This could potentially open doors for short-haul e-aviation. Very interesting
dcrazy•23m ago
In addition to the article’s stated benefits of faster charging than Li-ion, less temperature sensitivity, and lower propensity of thermal runaway, does switching to sodium also potentially address a raw materials problem? (Imagine if desalination could be made ecologically viable by harvesting the waste sodium for batteries…)

And what’s the downside? More complex chemistry to make the cathode?

Roark66•14m ago
The downside is incompatibility with the existing tech (voltage mostly).
chasil•2m ago
Fun fact, sodium metal has also been used to directly make wire. It has some compelling properties.

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