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OpenClaw Is Changing My Life

https://reorx.com/blog/openclaw-is-changing-my-life/
23•novoreorx•2h ago

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nurettin•1h ago
This euphoria quickly turns into disappointment once you finish scaffolding and actually start the development/refinement phase and claude/codex starts shitting all over the code and you have to babysit it 100% of the time.
HumanOstrich•1h ago
That's a different problem and not really relevant to OpenClaw. Also, your issue is primarily a skills issue (your skills) if you're using one of the latest models on Claude Code or Codex.
snowe2010•54m ago
You have to be joking. I tried Codex for several hours and it has to be one of the worst models I’ve seen. It was extremely fast at spitting out the worst broken code possible. Claude is fine, but what they said is completely correct. At a certain point, no matter what model you use, llms cannot write good working code. This usually occurs after they’ve written thousands of lines of relatively decent code. Then the project gets large enough that if they touch one thing they break ten others.
nurettin•25m ago
Well, I will not be berated by an ostrich!
kylegalbraith•1h ago
What’s the security situation around OpenClaw today? It was just a week or two ago that there was a ton of concern around its security given how much access you give it.
bowsamic•1h ago
Many companies have totally banned it. For example at Qt it is banned on all company devices and networks
ricardobayes•1h ago
Can only reasonably be described as "shitshow".
kolja005•1h ago
My company has the github page for it blocked. They block lots of AI-related things but that's the only one I've seen where they straight up blocked viewing the source code for it at work.
mcintyre1994•1h ago
I don’t think there’s any solution to what SimonW calls the lethal trifecta with it, so I’d say that’s still pretty impossible.

I saw on The Verve that they partnered with the company that repeatedly disclosed security vulnerabilities to try to make skills more secure though which is interesting: https://openclaw.ai/blog/virustotal-partnership

I’m guessing most of that malware was really obvious, people just weren’t looking, so it’s probably found a lot. But I also suspect it’s essentially impossible to actually reliably find malware in LLM skills by using an LLM.

Inityx•1h ago
> My answer is: become a “super manager.”

Honestly I'd rather die

aiobe•1h ago
what was the instruction to write and promote this post?
phito•1h ago
Exactly, I'm not going to waste my time reading this AI generating post that's basically promoting itself.

What I really wonder, is who the heck is upvoting this slop on hackernews?

guerrilla•1h ago
It only has 11 points. It just got caught in the algorithm. That's all.
phito•1h ago
But I see these kinds of post every day on HN with hundreds of upvotes. And it's a thousand times worse on Reddit.
CamperBob2•1h ago
Another good example, from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46860845

Articles like these should be flagged, and typically would be, but they sometimes appear mysteriously flag-proof.

ricardobayes•1h ago
On that thought you got to ask yourself why almost every thread has 200+, some even 500+ comments now. Definitely wasn't like this a few months ago
cute_boi•1h ago
I think everyone cheering for AI will become its archenemy later. I’m very happy that companies like Salesforce and Duolingo, which fired so many people, are now tanking badly.
necklesspen•1h ago
The same author had good things to say about the R1, a device you generally won't see many glowing reviews about. (https://reorx.com/blog/rabbit-r1-the-upgraded-replacement-fo...)

Maybe it's unfair to judge an author's current opinion by their past opinion - but since the piece is ultimately an opinion based on their own experience I'm going to take it along a giant pile of salt that the author's standards for the output of AI tools are vastly different than mine.

bwb•1h ago
Hah, I read that as well and made a big "hmmmmmmmmm" sound...

The last time I talked to someone about OpenClaw and how it is helping them, they told me it tells them what their calendar has for them today or auto-tweets for them (i.e., non-human spam). The first is as simple as checking your calendar, and the second is blatant spam.

Anyone found some good use cases beyond a better interface for AI code assistance?

gyomu•1h ago
I think a sizable proportion of people just want to play "large company exec". Their dream is to have an assistant telling them how busy their day is, all the meetings they have, then to go to those meetings and listen to random fluff people tell them while saying "mmh yeah what a wise observation" or "mmh no not enough synergy here, let's pivot and really leave our mark on this market, crunch the numbers again".

I can't come up with any other explanation for why there seems to be so many people claiming that AI is changing their life and workflow, as if they have a whole team of junior engineers at their disposal, and yet have really not that much to show for it.

They're so white collar-pilled that they're in utter bliss experiencing a simulation of the peak white collar experience, being a mid-level manager in meetings all day telling others what to do, with nothing tangible coming out of it.

novoreorx•1h ago
Our cognition evolves over time. That article was written when the Rabbit R1 presentation video was first released, I saw it and immediately reflect my thoughts on my blog. At that time, nobody had the actual product, let alone any idea how it actually worked.

Even so, I still believe the Rabbit has its merits. This does not conflict with my view that OpenClaw is what is truly useful to me.

huijzer•1h ago
> Maybe it's unfair to judge an author's current opinion by their past opinion

Yes I think it is

perbu•1h ago
This is quite a low quality post. There is nothing of substance here. Just hot air.

The only software I've seen designed and implemented by OpenClaw is moltbook. And I think it is hard to come up with a bigger pile of crap than Moltbook.

If somebody can build something decent with OpenClaw, that would help add some credibility to the OpenClaw story.

charcircuit•1h ago
My openclaw built skills (python scripts) to interact with the Notion API which allows it to make work items for me and evenly distribute them, setting due dates on my calendar.
exitb•1h ago
It’s a fun example, because openclaw is the boss in it and you are the agent.
whateveracct•1h ago
AI is all facade
jorisboris•1h ago
I was reading the post and had the same feeling of superficiality. I don’t think a human wrote it tbh
timcobb•1h ago
I think in the future this might be known as AI megalomania
moomoo11•1h ago
Press [X] to doubt

Press [Space] to skip

cubefox•1h ago
From his previous blog post:

> Generally, I believe [Rabbit] R1 has the potential to change the world. This is a thought that seldom comes to my mind, as I have seen numerous new technologies and inventions. However, R1 is different; it’s not just another device to please a certain niche. It’s meticulously designed to serve one significant goal for all people: to improve lifestyle in the digital world.

treetalker•1h ago
What substantial and beneficial product has come of this author’s, or anybody’s, use of OpenClaw? What major problems of humanity have they chipped away at, let alone solved — and is there a net benefit once the negatives are taken into account?
gyomu•1h ago
> it completely transformed my workflow, whether it’s personal or commercial projects

> This has truly freed up my productivity, letting me pursue so many ideas I couldn’t move forward on before

If you're writing in a blog post that AI has changed your life and let you build so many amazing projects, you should link to the projects. Somehow 90% of these posts don't actually link to the amazing projects that their author is supposedly building with AI.

Maxion•1h ago
A lot of more senior coders when they actively try vibe coding a greenfield project find that it does actually work. But only for the first ~10kloc. After that the AI, no matter how well you try to prompt it, will start to destroy existing features accidentally, will add unnecessary convoluted logic to the code, will leave benhind dead code, add random traces "for backwards compatibility", will avoid doing the correct thing as "it is too big of a refactor", doesn't understand that the dev database is not the prod database and avoids migrations. And so forth.

I've got 10+ years of coding experience, I am an AI advocate, but not vibe coding. AI is a great tool to help with the boring bits, using it to initialize files, help figure out various approaches, as a first pass code reviewer, helping with configuring, those things all work well.

But full-on replacing coders? It's not there yet. Will require an order of magnitude more improvement.

alpineman•1h ago
You’re right, but on the other hand once you have a basic understanding security, architecture, etc you can prompt around these issues. You need a couple of years of experience but that’s far less then the 10-15 years of experience you needed in the past.

If you spend a couple of years with an LLM really watching and understanding what it’s doing and learning from mistakes, then you can get up the ladder very quickly.

Nextgrid•1h ago
I find that security, architecture, etc is exactly the kind of skill that takes 10-15 years to hone. Every boot camp, training provider, educational foundation, etc has an incentive to find a shortcut and we're yet to see one.

A "basic" understanding in critical domains is extremely dangerous and an LLM will often give you a false sense of security that things are going fine while overlooking potential massive security issues.

helloplanets•1h ago
Specifics on the setup. Specifics on the projects.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

DeathArrow•1h ago
>Somehow 90% of these posts don't actually link to the amazing projects that their author is supposedly building with AI.

Maybe they don't feel like sharing yet another half working Javascript Sudoku Solver or yet another half working AI tool no one will ever use?

Probably they feel amazed about what they accomplished but they feel the public won't feel the same.

jootsing•1h ago
this feels like the only thing you've probably done with open claw
zkmon•1h ago
That's a very inefficient way to interact with CC. There will be transmission losses that need too much feedback looping.

So, it appears that we have come a long way bubbling up through abstraction layers: assembly code -> high-level languages -> scripting -> prompting -> openclaw.

jruz•1h ago
I admire the people that can live happily in the ignorance of what’s under the hood, in this case not even under the layer of claude code because that was too much aparently so people are now putting openclaw+telegram on top of that.

And me ruining my day fighting with a million hooks, specs and custom linters micromanaging Claude Code in the pursuit of beautiful code.

whateveracct•1h ago
okay dumbo
SyneRyder•1h ago
The post mentions discussing projects with Claude via voice, but it isn't clear exactly how. Do they just mean sending voice memos via Whatsapp, the basic integration that you can get with OpenClaw? (That isn't really "discussing".) Or is this a full blown Eleven Labs conversational setup (or Parakeet, Voxtral, or whatever people are using?)

I'm not running OpenClaw, but I've given Claude its own email address and built a polling loop to check email & wake Claude up when I've sent it something. I'm finding a huge improvement from that. Working via email seems to change the Claude dynamic, it feels more like collaborating with a co-worker or freelancer. I can email Claude when I'm out of the house and away from my computer, and it has locked down access to use various tools so it can build some things in reply to my emails.

I've been looking into building out voice memos or an Eleven Labs setup as well, so I can talk to Claude while I'm out exercising, washing dishes etc. Voice memos will be relatively easy but I haven't yet got my head around how to integrate Eleven Labs and work with my local data & tools (I don't want a Claude that's running on Eleven Labs servers).

gpvos•1h ago
Thank you; this explains why working with AI doesn't interest me.
DeathArrow•1h ago
If you use Cursor or Claude, you have to oversee it and steer it so it gets very close to what you want to achieve.

If you delegate these tasks to OpenClaw, I am not really sure the result is exactly what you want to achieve and it works like you want it to.

yellow_lead•1h ago
> My productivity did improve, but for any given task, I still had to jump into the project, set up the environment, open my editor and Claude Code terminal. I was still the operator; the only difference was that instead of typing code manually, I was typing intent into a chat box.

> Then OpenClaw came along, and everything changed.

> After a few rounds of practice, I found that I could completely step away from the programming environment and handle an entire project’s development, testing, deployment, launch, and usage—all through chatting on my phone.

So, with Claude Code, you're stuck typing in a chat box. Now, with OpenClaw, you can type in a chat box on your phone? This is exciting and revolutionary.

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