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A brief history of barbed wire fence telephone networks (2024)

https://loriemerson.net/2024/08/31/a-brief-history-of-barbed-wire-fence-telephone-networks/
40•keepamovin•2h ago

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cf100clunk•1h ago
Some great previous HN discussions on barbed wire telephony:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

There are also discussions about networking over barbed wire.

biofox•1h ago
Very cool to see one comment linking to an old Sears magazine from the 1920s, showing some of the equipment people would have constructed these networks from:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101066805050&vi...

The thing I'm most amazed by is how "modern" the catalogue is, especially the clothing and phonograph sections.

torstenvl•1h ago
I was really disappointed not to see any mention of Claude Shannon running barbed wire comms in rural Northern Michigan.
eschulz•42m ago
As a native of Northern Illinois, I was pleased to see Joseph Glidden mentioned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Glidden

Edit: after reading about Claude Shannon, I too think it would have been nice if he was mentioned.

jtickle•1h ago
This is amazing to see. I have some audio recordings, digitized from tapes recorded in the 1960s, of my great-grandfather who was raised on a farm in Iowa. He talks about his experiences in amateur radio in the early 1900s-1920s. He mentioned bringing telephones out into the field that could be clipped to the fence wire to make calls back to the house, which was not hooked up to an electric grid but had batteries. Sadly, he did not say how the batteries were re-charged.
infinitewars•1h ago
Maybe they used a Delco-Light Plant
biofox•1h ago
The batteries were either charged using a "telephone magneto", or were taken to a local town to be charged off of mains electricity:

https://www.1900s.org.uk/1920s60s-windup-phones.htm

pyrale•22m ago
From what I understand, the crank was used to ring the exchange's bell, not to reload the phone battery.
pyrale•28m ago
> Sadly, he did not say how the batteries were re-charged.

Dry-cell batteries had to be changed, they weren't recharged.

https://www.reddit.com/r/diyelectronics/comments/y7qmhq/15v_...

idatum•1h ago
I couple years ago I read "A Mind at Play", Soni & Goodman, a biography on Claude Shannon. He grew up on a farm and the book mentions how he made extensive use of barbed wire fence telegraph (and if I recall telephone). Perhaps one of the early experiences Shannon had regarding information.

The MIT Museum had a display (last year) of Shannon's "toys", including the famous mouse maze. I don't recall any mention of his early days using barbed wire telegraph though.

dmazin•1h ago
If you can get your hands on it, I recommend Other Networks: A Radical Technology Sourcebook by the same author. She covers barbed wire as well as many other ways to communicate. The book itself is gorgeous.
Luc•57m ago
It's on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/emerson-lori-other-networks-a-ra...
cluckindan•1h ago
Needs more modem.
MagicMoonlight•31m ago
That’s really cool. I wonder if you could run anything else on a fence network. Like some sort of primitive computer network.

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