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What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023)

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/100749
40•IndySun•2h ago

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dTal•1h ago
Disc = round part visible

Disk = round part hidden or no round part

Have I got it!?

Someone•1h ago
I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.

All of that “in the UK”.

Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.

Symbiote•1h ago
The British spelling was used by Philips when they launched the Compact Disc with Sony.

Disk was used by American companies inventing hard disks, floppy disks etc.

British software often used "disc" for both, e.g. RISC OS on Acorn/ARM/Raspberry Pi [1].

[1] https://arcwiki.org.uk/index.php/RISC_OS_3 (see screenshot)

Wowfunhappy•1h ago
SSD, of course, stands for Solid State Dis[c,k]...
9rx•1h ago
Solid State Drive, usually, but when it comes to language anything goes.
HPsquared•1h ago
SSD could stand for "SSD Storage Device".

Bring back recursive acronyms!

ghurtado•1h ago
Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:

"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)

"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")

I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.

rf15•1h ago
You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.
bitwize•1h ago
Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.

The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.

forty•1h ago
Disquette*

In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.

DonHopkins•1h ago
Pff! Disc comes from Disco!
coffee--•1h ago
There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.

So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.

ChrisArchitect•1h ago
"Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.
dcminter•1h ago
Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."

My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.

onraglanroad•1h ago
More modern hard disks included the drive mechanism in one unit.

They used to be separate, so you would mount the hard disk on the drive to make it accessible.

dcminter•38m ago
Yeah, we used to have a couple of the removable phoenix platters knocking around.

Of course now everything tends to be solid state even terms like "drive" are becoming less common.

rikthevik•1h ago
A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.
fainpul•1h ago
And where is the "drive" in an SSD?

Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.

actionfromafar•53m ago
Same as the Alcubierre drive! ;)
gaigalas•1h ago
Apple, the etymology company.
OhMeadhbh•1h ago
They certainly do have bugs.

[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]

bonesss•1h ago
The last letter.

[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]

dheera•1h ago
What about bloc vs block
MarkusQ•1h ago
This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.
innocentoldguy•1h ago
Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.

I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.

The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D

Gualdrapo•1h ago
When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".

Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.

But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"

adamdonahue•1h ago
So a floppy disk has a disc inside?
irishcoffee•1h ago
Sure does.
KwanEsq•1h ago
No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.
onraglanroad•1h ago
Yes it did. They were magnetic disks. And they were floppy. The outer case of a 3.5" was solid but just rip it open and you can see the disk itself is floppy.

Edit: oh right, you're talking about the different spellings. Those were entirely arbitrary. We mixed between the two.

sedatk•1h ago
The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]

It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]

I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.

[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...

[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf

[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk

Doctor_Fegg•1h ago
Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.
sedatk•1h ago
Did Acorn also misspell it in BBC Micro manual in 1984?

https://archive.org/details/BBCUG/page/n19/mode/2up?q=disc

OhMeadhbh•1h ago
Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.
bmacho•1h ago
> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes

sandworm101•1h ago
Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
oneplane•53m ago
When they shrank the disc it just became minidisc ;-) But that was technically MO, not just optical. And: it was in a cartridge so I suppose they really should have called it minidisk.
irishcoffee•52m ago
> Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

How old are you? Nothing you said is accurate.

sandworm101•32m ago
Lol. Old enough to remember when disks were three-dimensional, when you might need more than one hand to carry them. When they shrank we regularly called the newer/small model a diskette.

From wikipedia: >> A floppy disk, diskette, or floppy diskette is a type of disk storage made from a thin, flexible disk coated with a magnetic storage medium. It is enclosed in a square or nearly square plastic shell lined with fabric to help remove dust from the spinning disk.

delichon•1h ago

  sceptic - skeptic
  mollusc - mollusk
  celt - kelt
  cabob - kabob
  disc - disk
Corporate wants you to find the difference.
9rx•1h ago
sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.

skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.

asdfman123•1h ago
As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).
addaon•1h ago
Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.
irishcoffee•50m ago
Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.
dboreham•48m ago
Presumably this apple page is someone's idea of an April fool, date notwithstanding.

"Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.

"Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.

Then other people continued the mis spelling.

_wire_•46m ago
A disk is any planar circular shape.

A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.

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