I encourage people here to go read the 3(!) commits reverted. It's all minor housekeeping and trivial bugfixes—nothing deserving of such religious (cultish?) fervor.
[0] As a corollary, those with civility do deserve transparency. It's a tough situation.
Non-contributors dictating how the hen makes bread.
[0] While this fact can be difficult to ascertain, one must remember that mobs are generally much, much louder than normal users, and normal users are generally quiet even when the mob is loud.
I don't want to be too meta, but isn't that a description of most HN threads? We show up to criticize other people's work for self-gratification. In this case, we're here here to criticize the dev caving in, even though most of us don't even know what Stoat is and we don't care.
Except for some corner cases, most developers and content creators mostly get negative engagement, because it's less of an adrenaline rush to say "I like your work" than to say "you're wrong and I'm smarter than you". Many learn to live with it, and when they make a decision like that, it's probably because they actually agree with the mob.
I do think it's harmful to cave in, but that doesn't make me think less of the maintainer's character. On the other hand, some of the commenters in the issue might decry them as evil if they made the "wrong" decision.
It's fine to have opinions on the actions of others, but it's not fine to burn them at the stake.
Anyone with a rhetorical opinion but who otherwise provides little to getting cars off assembly lines, homes built, network cables laid.
In physical terms the world is full of socialist grifters in that they only have a voice, no skill. They are reliant on money because they're helpless to themselves.
Engineers could rule the world of they acted collectively rather than start personal businesses. If we sat on our hands unless demands are met, the world stops.
A lot of people in charge fear tech unions as we control the world getting shit done.
(For whatever reason, LLM coding things seem to love to reinvent the square wheel…)
On the other hand, normal cryptocurrencies continue to exist because their proponents find them useful, even if many others are critical of their existence.
Technology lives and dies by the value it provides, and both proponents and detractors are generally ill-prepared to determine such value.
The orignal topic was "not once blah blah...". I don't have to entertain you further, and won't.
Left-pad isn't a success story to be reproduced.
Gee, I wonder which "side" you're on?
It's not true that all AI generated code looks like it does the right thing but doesn't, or that all that human written code does the right thing.
The code itself matters here. So given code that works, is tested, and implements the features you need, what does it matter if it was completely written by a human, an LLM, or some combination?
Do you also have a problem with LLM-driven code completion? Or with LLM code reviews? LLM assisted tests?
I’m also not sure why programmatically generated code is inherently untrustworthy but code written by some stranger who is confidence in motives are completely unknown to you is inherently trustworthy. Do we really need to talk about npm?
It seems like it is hard to cultivate a community that cares about doing the right thing, but is focused and pragmatic about it.
If you use for example, GitHub Co-Pilot IDE integration, there's no evidence.
I have pretty low expectations for human code in that repository.
https://discord.com/blog/developing-rapidly-with-generative-...
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