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Artemis II Fault Tolerance

https://alearningaday.blog/2026/05/01/artemis-ii-fault-tolerance/
23•speckx•2h ago

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tcp_handshaker•1h ago
For the Airbus they used different CPUs because CPUs have bugs too...
echoangle•38m ago
Not just CPUs, they run a whole different (but also simpler) fallback program in case the main computers fail. I think they were more worried about programming errors but this should avoid all shared failures between the main computers (be it programming or hardware).
WorkerBee28474•47m ago
> Orion utilizes two Vehicle Management Computers, each containing two Flight Control Modules, for a total of four FCMs. But the redundancy goes even deeper: each FCM consists of a self-checking pair of processors.

Who sits down and determines that 8 is the correct number? Why not 4? Or 2? Or 16 or 32?

echoangle•40m ago
They probably set an acceptable total loss rate for the mission and worked backwards to determine how many replicas of each system they need to achieve that while minimizing total cost/weight.

So the answer is "some engineers sat down after talking to management".

y1n0•10m ago
This is correct.
nine_k•39m ago
Given a list of estimates of failure probabilities, finding the right mix of redundancy becomes a very tractable problem, maybe even freshman-level.
cubefox•24m ago
Getting the probabilities could be very difficult though, especially for issues that never occurred before.
9dev•4m ago
That is what you hire an army of engineers for.
MiracleRabbit•20m ago
Interesting. In safety components we are using Lockstep Microcontrollers which are doing something similar in a much smaller scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockstep_(computing)

Example: https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/spc574k72e5.pdf

pclmulqdq•14m ago
Lockstep processors were used here, as well.

> each FCM consists of a self-checking pair of processors.

y1n0•8m ago
What I would like to see is the fault data. Also a graph of the # of in sync FMCs over time and how well did it correlate with predictions.

I other words, how over engineered is it.

_whiteCaps_•7m ago
I'm a big fan of Dissimilar Redundancies (but didn't know that was the term until today) for building system software.

Build for various Linux distros, and some of the BSDs. You'll encounter weird compile errors or edge cases that will pop up. Often times I've found that these will expose undefined behaviour or incorrect assumptions that you wouldn't notice if you were building for a single platform.

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