Didn't the Evergiven do this years ago showing that blocking one highly trafficked route would cause chaos?
Trump on US Navy Seizing Ships:
> It’s a very profitable business. We’re like pirates.
2. ??
3. Profit
What is step 2? Normally, I would assume you try to minimize the incentives in buying stolen goods. In this market, nobody is above buying dubiously sourced oil, but what is the likely destination? Do the pirates patiently sit at the oil depot while the ship gets pumped dry, hoping the check clears and nobody shoots them on sight? Once you have an empty $100MM tanker, how do you unload that vessel?
Is it possible the Indian/Japanese/other-petroleum desperate government strike a deal with the pirates?
radu_floricica•1h ago
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AnimalMuppet•1h ago
See, the hijackers can't actually sail the ship. So they can't kill the crew, or at least can't kill very many of them.
tokai•1h ago
Its pretty dumb to assume that.
Somali commercial sailors and merchant mariners do exist. Information and simulator software is available also in Somalia.
bayarearefugee•1h ago
In this scenario you are standing on a ship that is full of highly flammable oil.
There are more outcomes than just the hijackers gain control of the ship or they leave you alone.
If gaining control is no longer an option they could decide "fuck it" and just fire into the side of your hull.
nradov•19m ago
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gpm•32m ago
Sailing the ship safely takes some skill.
Sailing the ship at all takes about 5 minutes of watching youtube worth of learning.
And they can certainly sink the ship as a warning to the next ship. Indeed attacks in the area have a history of sinking ships: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_attacks_on_commercial_v...
Aerroon•13m ago
In 2020 a Venezuelan patrol boat (1500 tons) tried to stop an Arctic cruise ship (6000 tons). The patrol boat rammed the bow of the cruise ship and sank. The cruise ship received superficial damage to the bow.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52151951
dgellow•1h ago
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SanjayMehta•1h ago
The US navy uses helicopters and ship mounted canons.
Occasionally they double tap "drug smugglers" with missiles. Or sink inadequately armed "enemy" ships with a torpedo, followed by a second one after 19 minutes.
The difference is minor between piracy and war crimes: "δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν"
echelon_musk•1h ago
dmitrygr•1h ago
Start dealing with pirates like they did in the 18th century, and watch how fast it ends. It would only take a few dozen publicly hung pirates to make the point.
senordevnyc•56m ago
mlyle•55m ago
It's my understanding it was more about the loss of favorable basing and the reduction in Spanish shipments of treasure that caused the decline.
We've killed plenty of would-be pirates recently. Doesn't seem to have ended the problem.
delichon•36m ago
It did in the early 19th century. Check out the first and second Barbary Wars. They were not permanent solutions but they had lasting effects. The real blow was the French conquest of Algeria after that.
hvb2•54m ago
You can put a high wall at a border but desperate people will try to scale it. No matter how high you make it. People are willing to cross things like the Darien gap [0], they'll do a lot of things.
If you have nothing to lose, and I mean nothing, you might be willing to take the gamble.
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dari%C3%A9n_Gap
ryandrake•4m ago
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croes•20m ago
Those crimes correlate with poverty.
You want less crimes? Provide social security to get rid of the criminals out of desperation
BirAdam•51m ago
echelon•47m ago
America was the global hegemon. Under the "rules based order", where America safeguarded international trade in exchange for having the US Dollar at the center, we had the largest period of stability the world has seen.
Now that everyone wants to displace America, we're pluging back into chaos. America is abdicating its role and turning into an isolationist power.
There's going to be an increase in war as countries try to claim territory and resources.
Piracy and blockades will come back. Trading alliances and trading blocs will form.
The world will turn into a powder keg. This time with nukes.
The vacuum left behind as America shuts itself off will create lots of power struggles. There will be a lot of trade disruption to energy, goods, and food inputs. It's also going to be incredibly violent.
Avicebron•35m ago
> ...America is abdicating its role and turning into an isolationist power.
Good thing America is one singular entity with everyone living in it both equally benefiting from it and also responsible for it's current state.
What we are seeing is neoliberalism gone rancid and the predictable fallout.
icegreentea2•21m ago
These types of actions are not perfect, they cannot stop everything, so you still see successful attacks happen.
And no one wants to try to intervene in Somalia itself. The world tried that in the 90s and got completely burned.
So the answer is that "other countries are not allowing it" in the same way that no country allows murder, and yet it still happens.
bmitch3020•14m ago
The crew are rarely trained and equip to respond to an armed attack. If they have anyone to defend the ship, at most it's a handful of mercenaries hired for the high risk part of the trip.
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