Does just taking a pic of the QR code not work just as well?

What is the difference between this and taking a picture/screenshot of the QR code?

For whatever reason apple required passes to be digitally signed with an apple developer certificate. On the other hand a screenshot/pdf is "good enough" that they didn't bother fixing it.

Looks like someone got sherlocked [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software)#Sherlocked...

Why is that awful? Sounds simple to me.

There's many third party apps that can already create passes based on pictures. They are just adding that feature to the OS which is great of course but it has already been possible for a long time, except that there's one more step of downloading an app...but should still be quicker than searching your library every time.

I usually just put things like that in an album

Pass2U Wallet works great, but like many apps, it really should just be a feature to begin with.

You can also make passes for other people and send them / share them.

Looks like someone else recommended a competitor Pass4 Wallet as well, may need to go compare.

I've got a Photos album called Keys.

I've been using Pass4Wallet for the last few years to create Wallet entries for local clubs I'm apart of.

It's actually better than native passes in some cases because you can add custom info to the entry, like a gate code. It's really flexible in terms of barcodes, QR codes, etc as well.

Great app I'll probably continue using, I'm not confident Apple will allow the amount of customizability it allows.

Wallet is already plenty useful to me.

Ticketing is a great use-case for it, I have flight tickets, concerts/events tickets, airport bus tickets, if it keeps expanding to integrate with even more tickets (my local public transportation system, the express train to the airport, more venues) it will only become more useful.

Edit: also, all of my cards, I haven't used a physical card at POS terminals in years, they only get used on ATMs.

Having boarding passes in Wallet which also update real time is so nice. Same thing with other tickets for events.

The kid behind the counter at most places is neither paid nor trained enough to identify if the digital card in my phone’s wallet comes from their app or if I made it myself.

As long as it scans they don’t care.

I think Wallet might be the most used feature for many on the iPhone, especially if they pay with their phone. What makes you think it's looking for a problem to solve?

I think Wallet is great and the adoption in certain areas like boarding passes is almost 100% and it beats digging through email to find some pdf and zooming in on some QR code when you have to present it (Hoping that your screen doesn't rotate in the worst possible moment). Also many big cities support it for public transport and most banking apps allow you to use your credit cards there for Apple Pay.

I still see people amazed when I pay for stuff with my Apple Watch. The only other place I know that reliably uses the Apple Watch with wallet outside of payment is Disney World, but the experience there was ok at best as I was managing my entire family and I'm pretty sure they would rather sell you multiple magic bands, but seeing as how phones will never get smaller I'd love more places to support tapping my watch on things.

I use Wallet purely to satisfy my collecting habit. I like to add movie tickets to it after purchasing them in the movie app, so I can look back at all the movies I've watched from many years ago until now.

I don't really think of it as an app; I think of it as the "double-tap side button to do tap to pay or present my ticket" iPhone feature

Being able to have train/bus passes on my phone whenever I go to another country is nice. Some places are a pain in the ass because even different cities have their own systems and they're all given names like IBCJ or JGCUVFGIB as if anyone is supposed to figure how to look them up. And oftentimes physical passes can only be bought from machines in select areas. And when going to undeveloped areas (particularly Europe), the few machines that do exist are broken and look like they were abandoned years ago, leaving the only option to track down where some rail staff are and trying to find someone who won't just wave you away without even looking at your face and hoping they'll help get you a pass instead of needing to get annoying one time tickets. Then sometimes places just tell you to install an app to buy tickets. That app requires a local phone number and address to verify.

Apple wallet lets me install passes and charge them up without even being in the country that I'll be visiting yet. It makes things massively more tedious. I wish more European countries supported it, because as much as Europeans have some weird pride in their public transportation, they're more complicated and backwards than even the poorest Asian nations. Being able to add any pass to Apple wallet would be a huge step in resolving that.

I don't know about most used app. But it seems a useful backup for specific vendor/site-specific apps when traveling for a variety of reasons. It gives me a ticket for a specific purpose on my phone when I may not be in a position to print one out--which many people don't do these days for misguided reasons anyway.

Entry ticket, basically. I went to Olympic Natl park recently and had the pass added to my Apple Wallet.

Basically anywhere you need to scan a QR code to get in, you can have a pass in Apple Wallet. I’ve never stored payment info in Apple Wallet. But every time I take a flight, I store my boarding pass in Apple Wallet. It’s than printing a physical boarding pass, it automatically updates metadata (e.g., flight times, gates), and it’s nicer than just a picture.

Previously, you could only add passes if the company supported it. So most airlines have Apple Wallet passes, but most gyms don’t. This update will allow you to create your own passes. Basically just storing the QR codes (and maybe some metadata?) in one easy-to-use place on your phone. I can imagine this being convenient for daily use so you don’t have to track a gym tag with a QR code and a library tag with a QR code, etc. Also nice for tickets to events.

Similarly I was using Pass4Wallet.

https://apps.apple.com/mw/app/pass4wallet-store-cards/id1423...

> An option to override automatic (un)archival of passes is also desperately needed.

PREACH. If you buy an open return (any time within 30 days of outward), Avanti set the expiry on both wallet passes to be the outward day. Which means your "valid for 30 days" ticket disappears almost immediately. Absolute shambles.

Just enter the location and time in question as part of creating the pass?

I use Pass2U Wallet and set a location, if I end up at near Children's Museum or Community Center, my ID is ready.

That one's real fun if you happen to be near the train station a lot, and have an anytime return ticket.

Google wallet did this from day one.

Walgreens let’s you add your loyalty card and use both it and payment from Wallet.

TFA is from a developer that created an app to create passes in iOS (and Android)

I think it means a digital copy of a ticket or similar card.

Absolutely no one whose job it is to scan barcodes gets paid enough to give a single fuck about how that barcode was created

I use Pass4Wallet for several loyalty/gym memberships.

In my experience, if the code scans, the code scans.

I can't speak for all things, but I found that venues will often use like a rotating QR code or rely on NFC. I'm sure if this is something like a ticket for a concert, you'll just rely on the existing pass support from whatever service you're using because it'll require something more complex.

The way I'm interpreting this is that it's a way to abstract stagnant QR or barcode passes for smaller businesses and libraries. We'll see at the WWDC though.

> Could people snatch a QR code on my paper ticket

That's a feature, not a bug. It means you can sell the ticket if you can't make it. Thankfully (/s) we have Ticketmaster with rolling codes now, so, no reselling.

How do they get your paper ticket?

Accessgrid is a startup in this space.

A generic name for a collection of things used to gain access to something.

That’s not really helping explain it, so here’s some examples:

Airplane tickets, library membership barcode, sports tickets, loyalty cards for your local coffee shop, conference tickets, etc.

Essentially anything with a barcode first and foremost. The website that this blog is about allows you to generate your own passes.

long hold to re-arrange your rearrange what your default card is - but to the bottom of the stack - is dumb

The same is true in a physical card wallet.

An 80 year old with early onset challenges can work this wallet, pick a card, and then hold the phone to the reader at a store. It's all co-opting "familiar" actions for them, not tech-like, which means they can do it.

The biggest UX issue Apple has for that persona isn't the wallet, it's the lack of physical home button. Everyone in their 70s and up seems to be given pause every time they aren't on the screen they expect, and even to unlock it.

Invisible affordances rely on memory rather than sight trigger: not good.

This has been one of my peeves for years. Apple is capable of good design, and overall is well regarded for it, but there are a number of places where they have blinders on and absolutely refuse to fix extremely obvious missteps.

The flow for removing cards is also a fantastic exercise in slowness.

First thing I noticed too, as I have multiple cards from the same bank. I also noticed they show you last digits of the ... CARD number, not the account number which would be tremendously more helpful. But I figured out you can put little icons on the cards. Which my bank did automatically for my business account. I added a little person icon for my personal account. Maybe bank specific though but definitely super dumb that you cannot label them yourself easily in the wallet app.

Perhaps comments can be moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012532

Yes, what a bizarre framing! Surely it should read "It took 14 years for Apple to realise the problem was with them".