OpenBSD 7.9 Released

https://www.openbsd.org/79.html

114•bradley_taunt•1h ago

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mghackerlady•53m ago

Sweet, I was just wondering when 7.9 would release. And with a song! We haven't gotten one of those in a while iirc

ilvez•15m ago

I always check their releases to get the song, like in other thread.. last song was 7.3

kvuj•51m ago

A song released with it too! So much care for OpenBSD.

DASD•24m ago

Nice! Had to lookup when one was last released, 7.3. https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html

alex1138•48m ago

BSDs are interesting projects. As I understand it there's a broad difference of them all doing things reasonably well but a) Free is general-purpose, b) Net is especially portable/many architecture and Open is security focused

novafunc•40m ago

OpenBSD's primary purpose is to create artwork (https://www.openbsd.org/artwork.html), releasing an OS is a side project.

mghackerlady•39m ago

FreeBSD is mainly server focused. There's been work on the desktop recently, but it isn't what FreeBSD devs are paid to focus on. To be fair to the people paying them, it's a damn good server OS.

Also, check out DragonflyBSD. It has a really nice filesystem and Dillon does good work

canpan•38m ago

I always wanted to get into bsd, especially openbsd. I like the idea of a more cohesive os.

But I don't really know what to use it for to get started. My desktop runs linux with steam for games. My AI server needs rocm drivers so ubuntu-server. My vps runs debian, maybe that one, but there is no DO image for BSD. Open for ideas..

nelsonic•34m ago

OpenBSD for the layer where you need the highest security. We use it for hosting our Postgres clusters. You could easily use it for your VPS. There is a learning curve. But if you’re already comfortable with Linux you’ll pick it up in a few hours.

mghackerlady•21m ago

FreeBSD would work well for your purposes, it has a really good hypervisor and linux abi compatibility

Guestmodinfo•24m ago

I have used OpenBSD as a desktop for 7 years. Though my usage and the machine were minimal. But I thoroughly liked it. I want to go back to it. One good thing is that if your hardware has some problems or about to have problems then installing OpenBSD will make your computer kernel panic. So I use it as a diagnosing tool for my hardware

systems•45m ago

the canadian OS :)

Guestmodinfo•32m ago

Yes free from American restrictions. Because America law prohibits from giving out cryptography to outside countries so according to OpenBSD we outsiders have no luck in getting a cryptographically secure operating system except for OpenBSD

mghackerlady•21m ago

That isn't a thing anymore iirc

thfuran•10m ago

I think that pretty much ended in the 90s.

ttul•26m ago

Developed at 4500ft elevation in the Texas of Canada, primarily.

clbrmbr•34m ago

Anyone here using OpenBSD? If so, for what purpose?

I’ve always wanted to use NetBSD for an application for an embedded system / IoT device but never had the pleasure (yet!).

6r17•27m ago

open-bsd will always feel like a safe pick for anything in regard to vault or key holding ; it's not appropriate to run anything CPU intensive - but it's a very appropriate system for anything that just need to boot up and hold some data ; eventually expose a network interface.

nelsonic•26m ago

We use OpenBSD for our VPSes on Hetzner, bare metal (for security focussed clients) and older (but still good) hardware in our Home Lab. OpenBSD is excellent on older (no longer supported by Cupertino) Apple hardware. We have an Intel Mac Mini Cluster with near-perfect uptime. If you need to run any kind of server (Web, Mail, DNS, NFS, Database) where you need stability & security, look no further. Some learning curve, but totally worth it.

mxuribe•12m ago

Have you tried such Openbsd installations vs FreeBSD? I forget the differences between OpenBSD and FreeBSD, so forgive the naivety. (I think NetBSD is more for embedded stuff, and Ghost and Dragonfly are more for conventional desktop use-cases if i recall correctly.)

I'm asking because i have not touched any BSD for over 2 decades...and I'm getting the itch to try some out...and was wondering if for server-type use cases (like you noted) whether OpenBSD is preferred over FreeBSD or the reverse, and why? Thanks in advance for any feedback you might provide!

nelsonic•2m ago

FreeBSD has the same roots as OpenBSD but the former has a “compatibility” focus whereas the latter has the security focus. Having a background in security, the choice was obvious for me. But each person/org should decide based on their needs. Haven’t had any issues running it on all major hardware (Dell, HP, Lenovo, Apple, etc) the UI isn’t as pretty as macOS on Desktop, but it runs Firefox & Chrome, etc. so you can do everything you need. If you have an older Lenovo or Mac lying around collecting dust, dive in!

DASD•23m ago

Single tenant(and single core) tiny VMs with OpenBSD's VMM hypervisor and confidential computing through AMD-SEV.

mghackerlady•23m ago

I use it. It's secure, and if your hardware is supported it mostly just works. A good unix experience if you're willing to learn its intricacies

INTPenis•13m ago

Not really, but OpenBSD has been in my life for 25 years.

I used OpenBSD to create the firewalls for our LAN parties when I was at school.

The first shellserver I ran, on an UltraSparc IIi was OpenBSD, gave out accounts to my friends.

And then I used it as a firewall, both professionally and personally, for many years. Until the first Turris Omnia was released, and now I have retired even Turris for pfSense, which is FreeBSD I believe.

But the PF firewall in OpenBSD was superior, definitely to the syntax of IPtables.

To me Linux was a great server OS, and OpenBSD was a great FW/Gateway OS.

Galanwe•11m ago

I use it on my personal laptop, essentially because I like how slim and simple it is.

Packaging is simple, kernel development and upgrade is simple, etc. Also the kernel code itself is written in a style I like, it's to the point, no useless abstractions, no fuss. I prefer it even amongst other BSDs I tried (netbsd and free*lbsd/dragonfly).

It just feels nice to be able to understand most of your system. It's not as fully featured as Linux, but there is a sense of understanding your system that is refreshing. A bit like if you're on vacation in a small and cute village where life is mundane and calming. At least that's how I feel with it. Mileage may vary.

nelsonic•32m ago

With all the security issues constantly being uncovered in other Operating Systems - which will only accelerate with Ai - it’s time everyone considers OpenBSD. Their decades-long security-focus is second to none. We have fully converted from Ubuntu/Debian to OpenBSD. No looking back.

ykurtov•14m ago

What? How long did it take?

nelsonic•8m ago

How long did what take? Learning the essentials of OpenBSD, budget 4-6hours. Switching over servers from Ubuntu, an hour for the first one then 10mins each after that. You can copy config with your favourite tools; most have ports for OpenBSD already. If you want to learn more in-depth, read: Michael W. Lucas Absolute OpenBSD, 2nd Edition: Unix for the Practical Paranoid. Highly recommend it as teaches many fundamentals most software engineers skip.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs•12m ago

>it’s time everyone considers OpenBSD

https://x.com/ortegaalfredo/status/2055362910415671459

When your super secure feature gets defeated by a symlink maybe it's not really time to consider it...

Sure, things are not better in the linux world but at least there's more eyes to fix issues there just because of the market share.

ori_b•9m ago

Note that this specific symlink was special cased because sandboxed programs still need to access timezones. Also note that you would need to be root to create that special cased symlink. It's embarrassing, but less catastrophic than it looks at first glance.

Running security-critical code as root is still a bad idea.

866-RON-0-FEZ•3m ago

Your "evidence" for him to reconsider is a "security hole" that requires you to be root to execute?

For my next trick I will demonstrate how to break into my own house by using my keys.

tiffanyh•21m ago

> Replaced the cas spinlock in kernel mutexes with a "parking" lock.

Anyone know what a "parking lock" is (and how it works)?

I couldn't find anything on the man pages about it.

https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-5.5/lock.9

https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-5.9/mutex.9

sanxiyn•16m ago

"Parking" lock is a reference to this:

https://webkit.org/blog/6161/locking-in-webkit/

tiffanyh•14m ago

Thanks!

Wow, this is from 10-years ago.

ska80•14m ago

I wish OpenBSD supported Bluetooth. Unfortunately, its absence is a deal breaker for me. I did use OpenBSD on the desktop it was great.

Decabytes•10m ago

How do the various BSDs run on framework laptops?

nubg•1m ago

ang benchmarks against state of the art?

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