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USCIS Will Grant 'Adjustment of Status' Only in Extraordinary Circumstances

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/us-citizenship-and-immigration-services-will-grant-adjustment-of-status-only-in-extraordinary
59•arrowleaf•1h ago

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enraged_camel•54m ago
This is an absurd change that will have catastrophic consequences in both academia and the private sector. Even if you're a US citizen who is "America First", you will feel the impact, and it will be net negative.
commandlinefan•28m ago
I doubt it. We've seen time and time again that what the USCIS considers "extraordinary" are actually very, very ordinary circumstances. Anybody with proof of employment will qualify.
arrowleaf•24m ago
Only after losing in court, time and time again. This will take expensive lawyers and a lot of heartache to get any clear answers.
freediddy•20m ago
You don't know what you're talking about. This is the very last stage of the GC process. Before everyone had the choice to do AOS or CP. I personally chose CP. Now there's only the choice of CP. But nothing else has changed. It means you need to fly back to your home country for a few days for the interview and then you get your GC on the spot.
nutjob2•17m ago
The bigots who support this sort of thing are not deterred by the self harm their obsession causes.
bradreaves2•51m ago
Is this intended to ensure that students and H1-Bs will not have a path to residency unless they disrupt their lives here?
hgoel•49m ago
Isn't this about applying for a green card directly from a non-immigrant visa, e.g. student? H1-B is an immigrant visa.
bradreaves2•43m ago
H1-B is defined as “non-immigrant.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa
sokoloff•41m ago
> H1-B is an immigrant visa.

I don't believe that's correct. H1-B is formally a temporary, nonimmigrant work visa/status which permits "dual-intent" (meaning a holder can be openly seeking permanent residence when applying for [or when on] such a visa without that dual intent being immigration fraud).

outside1234•38m ago
It is intended to disrupt immigration full stop and especially brown immigration.
hobonation•10m ago
Unskilled immigration. Following instructions is a skill.
mothballed•46m ago
This appears to close off the method by which all the "dreamers" I'm familiar with got GC/citizenship, which is by marriage.
boredatoms•44m ago
Is this just for when applying for I-485 that you have to make a quick entry/exit trip,

or is it effective all the way back at I-140 time where people would then need to spend years away from the US?

0xy•40m ago
This is to close the common loophole where people would fly into the US on an ESTA, B-2 or another temporary visa "without immigration intent" (fraud) and then marry a US Citizen and adjust status.

On visa forums this method is commonly discussed. By entering on an ESTA/B-2 with the intent to marry a US Citizen, they're committing immigration fraud, inherently. You would be denied entry at the border if you admitted to your plans.

The correct way to do this is to file a K-1 visa outside the United States, or marry outside then file a IR-1/CR-1.

rafram•36m ago
Maybe it does close that loophole, but the effects are much, much broader and more harmful: https://www.cato.org/blog/dhs-quits-granting-green-cards-alm...
0xy•34m ago
The article you linked is patently incorrect. It claims "Now, every legal immigrant must leave the country—that is, self-deport—even if they are qualified for a green card and even if leaving would disqualify them.". This is false according to USCIS' memo.

It very specifically lays out common exceptions to this, including for legal immigrants on dual intent visas and those whose only pathway to permanent residency is via adjustment of status.

It also wildly misinterprets the news to claim that the K-1 visa has been effectively ended, even though the memo specifically excludes it.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/memos/PM-...

throwaway_62022•19m ago
No the memo specifically says:

> However, maintaining lawful status in a dual intent nonimmigrant category is not sufficient, on its own, to warrant a favorable exercise of discretion.

Which basically means that, applying AOS while being in dual-intent category is not favorable and you will have to prove extraordinary circumstance for a simple i-485 AOS on H1B. Lacking the extraordinary circumstance, your application may be denied.

What this basically means for millions of people on H1B (especially from countries like India is), they have to go for consular processing. And given the lack of appointments in India and delays they are facing - you could be stuck for months to years and no company is going to wait for you while you go through the process. So leaving would definitely disqualify them.

0xy•10m ago
Why should H1Bs be exempt from consular processing when nobody else is? K and IR/CR categories MUST do consular processing, which takes 3 years in some cases.

H1Bs should jump the queue why? You're arguing that the family of US Citizens should be considered behind temporary immigrant workers with no family ties to the United States, and you should be exempt from the requirements they face.

freediddy•4m ago
This article is intentionally misleading.

Department of Homeland Security is no longer processing Green Cards via AOS. That included UCSIS.

However the STATE DEPARTMENT is still processing it via Consular Processing.

The article makes it sounds like the US is no longer offering Green Cards which is false.

beej71•35m ago
Given our population problems, I can't think of a single rational reason why we'd want to stop this from happening.
arrowleaf•15m ago
Our population problems, in that we need immigration to avoid population decline? Our total fertility rate is 1.6.
BrokenCogs•25m ago
No, this also effects anyone under employment based immigration petitions unrelated to marrying a US citizen.
0xy•19m ago
Only if they do not maintain lawful status, which is what the law says anyway. In fact, it specifically mentions this: "USCIS acknowledges exceptions including nonimmigrant categories with dual intent and immigrant categories where only adjustment of status provides a pathway to permanent resident status"

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/memos/PM-...

BrokenCogs•4m ago
Where in the memo does it say "only if they do not maintain lawful status"? there are plenty of people adjusting under employment based petitions who have non immigrant visas (eg O-1) which are not dual intent.
nrmitchi•11m ago
It is absolutely NOT specific to the very limited situation you are describing, which is already a big red flag when processing applications.
0xy•2m ago
"USCIS acknowledges exceptions including nonimmigrant categories with dual intent and immigrant categories where only adjustment of status provides a pathway to permanent resident status"

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/memos/PM-...

wesleyd•36m ago
When I renewed my H1B visa (I think after three years), I had to leave the US to do it. I couldn't renew it from inside. The permission to work got renewed just fine - I could just keep on working for another three years - but if I left after the first visa expired, and wanted to come back, I would need a new _visa_ (thing stuck into my passport) to come back, and I could only apply for that while outside the country.

I read that it used to not be like this, that it used to be possible to renew the _visa_ itself from inside the US, but that got changed before my time. I can only imagine that the reason for that was that non-citizens inside the US are entitled to due process, but non-citizens outside the US are not. And denying a visa to somebody outside the US is therefore a lot easier than denying it to somebody inside the US, and essentially cannot be appealed.

When I applied for AOS form H1B to Green Card, I didn't have to leave the US. With this change, I would have had to. The only reason I can think for this change is that denials of AOS would now become unappealable. I hate this.

nutjob2•25m ago
This is just Trump trying to torture immigrants likely due to the psychopath Steven Miller.

In general the law applies equally to everyone associated with the US in any respect so you get due process (in theory) regardless. Specific laws may apply to different classes of people though (see 'enemy combatants').

ivewonyoung•12m ago
> I read that it used to not be like this, that it used to be possible to renew the _visa_ itself from inside the US, but that got changed before my time. I can only imagine that the reason for that was that non-citizens inside the US are entitled to due process, but non-citizens outside the US are not. And denying a visa to somebody outside the US is therefore a lot easier than denying it to somebody inside the US, and essentially cannot be appealed

No, after 9/11 they passed a rule to always collect biometrics before issuing visas and validating them at border entry. The DoS facilities in the US did not have fingerprinting facilities but the consulates and embassies did, so they forced the change. Recently there was a pilot to allow it in the US itself.

grahamgooch•33m ago
This is a good thing. Adjustment of status for those within the USA is backlogged- by years for people from certain countries. Going to the home consulate for the final stamp will save years for many people.

F1 and h1 are non-immigrant visa.

American law only allows a person to reside in the country with one Visa type.

The green card is an immigrant visa - and the new visa is issued through an adjustment of status for those inside the USA (backlogged) or by consulates (nearly immediately).

So this is a good thing. It’s easy to get alarmed.

ceejayoz•28m ago
Why is it "nearly immediately" at a consulate but "backlogged" in the US? Why can't that be fixed?
freediddy•25m ago
USCIS serializes it and they have a limited number of workers. CP shards it based on country so it will be much faster for many people.
ceejayoz•21m ago
That's a what, not a why.

Why can't USCIS shard it based on country within the US in a similar fashion?

arrowleaf•18m ago
The whole immigration system could easily be reformed and modernized if efficiency and speeding up the legal route to citizenship were the goal.
grahamgooch•4m ago
Each country can only get 8500 gc’s per year. My numbers are probably incorrect, but some countries have literally hundreds and thousands of people in the pipeline while some other countries only have perhaps thousand. The ones with long waiting periods will clearly benefit.

Edit. Via OpenAI

2025, the cap was about 26,323 per country because the total visa pool was larger.

Important details:

1. The cap applies to: * Employment-based green cards * Family preference green cards 2. The cap does NOT apply to: * Immediate relatives of U.S. citizens * spouses * parents * unmarried children under 21 Those categories are uncapped. 3. The cap is based on: * Country of birth (“chargeability”) * Not citizenship. 4. In practice, countries like: * India * China * Mexico * Philippines hit the cap constantly, causing very large backlogs.

Simple example:

If 500,000 Indians qualify for employment-based green cards, but only ~25k–30k can be allocated annually under the cap system, the remainder wait in line. That is why Indian EB-2 and EB-3 wait times can stretch into decades.

grahamgooch•5m ago
Because it’s literally not better than the DmV
ceejayoz•1m ago
My county's DMV is fast and helpful.

Denamdn better from your government.

grahamgooch•5m ago
Exactly. An extra points for using HN lingo.:)
throwaway_62022•17m ago
This is not true. It is not nearly immediate at US consulate and backlogged in US. The parent doesn't know what they are talking about.
grahamgooch•7m ago
I went thru CP myself. It saved me 3 years
grahamgooch•6m ago
Because America only has a few processing centers in within the US where is that literally hundreds and hundreds of consulates that can now take on this activity they have always been doing this activity but the vast majority of the backlog is caused by the slow processing of the US processing centers.
ceejayoz•1m ago
So why not… expand the processing centers?
arrowleaf•28m ago
From what I've gathered, the consular route is nowhere near immediate, especially if they are from one of the countries typically backlogged (e.g. India). You're saying that someone who gets married while on F1 + OPT/STEM should leave with their partner, potentially for months if not years, while pursuing the consular route.
kylehotchkiss•26m ago
Consulates are not nearly immediately. You have to wait months-years for appointments at some.
ryandrake•31m ago
Looks like this means if a US Citizen marries someone who visited on a non-immigrant visa without the intention of getting married, the US government will now force the family apart for an unknown amount of time, potentially forever, instead of allowing the spouse to stay while the I-485 is processed.

I wonder how this would work with a K-1 "Fiancé" Visa. Typically a K-1 holder can enter the country as long as they get married within 90 days, and then the family stays together while the I-485 is processed. Now what? Come to the USA, marry the US Citizen, and then you're banished back to your home country?

There's also the K-3 which lets the foreign spouse enter as a non-immigrant to keep the family together while the I-485 is processed. Are they getting rid of that entirely?

This is all totally bonkers, likely not well thought out, and pretty cruel to families, which is completely on-point for this Administration.

mothballed•27m ago
The reason why you allow married people to adjust status is because it's absurd to actually expect a spouse not to just break the law and harbor their illegal immigrant spouse. They are going to choose to break the law rather than kick their spouse out and have them apply from overseas. Maybe they deserve to be punished when inevitably that happens en masse, but one has to consider the societal effects of creating a bunch of criminals over what amounts to an administrative fuck-fuck game over a spouse who was already determined to be admissible to the US.
charcircuit•22m ago
>who was already determined to be admissible to the US

If that was true why even go through a whole process. To me it sounds like there is still an approval required meaning the person is not determined to be admissible yet.

mothballed•20m ago
If they were here on a non-immigrant visa then they were already found admissible to the US. Some of them were just straight up illegals (like dreamers). I've met dreamers from time to time and all of them regularized their status after marrying (I assume the ones that didn't though weren't eager to tell me about their status so I simply never found out).
electronsoup•25m ago
> likely not well thought out

Or it has been, and cruelty is the point

cozzyd•22m ago
I wonder how this would have applied to Melania
daft_pink•21m ago
I think if you enter on a B1/B2 tourist visa, you should not be allowed to adjust status to a green card except in extraordinary circumstances. I’m not so sure about other non-immigrant visas.

K1 will obviously be an exception as substantial steps are generally taken at a home consulate.

nrmitchi•17m ago
There is no carve out in this memo that says it’s only for B1/B2. Or that K-1 is excluded.

An entire visa class is not “obviously an exception”, or it would be clear.

arrowleaf•31m ago
Curious to know how this will affect immigrants who arrived on a student visa, receive OPT to stay while working, and then subsequently get married. I know many top performers at my company who are in that boat, especially from India, who have built lives here during their OPT + STEM. It would be a shame to lose them if they have to go back to India and wait years (if not decades) for a green card or H-1B.
alephnerd•27m ago
Silver lining is it'll be good for India and accelerate the opening of new offshore centers/GCCs as those tend to be staffed and led by returnees.

The Great Recession and the China GC backlog in the late 2000s and early 2010s acted as a similar push factor on top of the Thousand Talents program (which India recently started emulating as well).

Brexit played a similar role in helping initiate a reverse brain drain back to Poland and Romania in the late 2010s as well.

freediddy•27m ago
No. This is the last stage of the Green Card process. When you do Consular processing you make an appointment at the US embassy or consulate in your country, go do the interview and then you are granted the GC on the spot. Then you fly back. You don't need to fly back for years, it's only for the purpose of the interview at the consulate.
arrowleaf•20m ago
What is the typical wait time for appointments when going to consular processing route? My brief searches say anywhere from 2-9 months. 60-90 day NVC review phase, 60-120 day interview scheduling, and then 1-2 weeks once you have the interview. Are you saying that the 120-210 day wait time can happen while you're still in the US?
freediddy•7m ago
Yes, the wait time is in the US. You just leave the country for the appointment.

All this FUD in this entire post is disheartening.

freediddy•29m ago
All this means is that I485 is no longer allowed and everyone needs to do Consular processing. It doesn't mean that Green Cards are no longer being processed.

I did consular processing when I got my Green Card. It's the FINAL step fo the GC process. You don't need to be outside the US for all the other stages, in fact I think if you leave during some parts, it would be considered abandoning your application. It just means that while you're in the US, you need to schedule an appointment at the US embassy/consulate in your home country, and fly back. Then you go through the appointment and there on the spot you're approved or rejected. It's a big nerve wracking but unless you lied you will be fine. Then you fly back to the US.

For me CP was much much faster, on the order of months.

daft_pink•23m ago
I think in specific visa circumstances, an i485 will still be required such as K1 visa which is granted outside the country and then by nature of a K1 visa, adjustment to green card must happen within the United States.

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