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I Miss Terry Pratchett

https://www.mahl.me/blog/the-spell-that-wouldnt-leave/
86•gorgmah•52m ago

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xosc•39m ago
I'm sure terry pratchett, were he alive, would not appreciate the ai gif on this otherwise interesting article
wizzwizz4•36m ago
It's hotlinked from the AI company's website, so it'll be gone in 6 months.
st3phvee•14m ago
I also suspect Terry Pratchett would have had a lot to say about this sentence: "Pratchett’s [pocket editions] were small, fat, slightly battered, and printed on a kind of paper that already looked guilty." And this one: "It had Heroes, capital H, walking grimly towards their Destiny across a landscape that smelled of dwarves."

Some odd turns of phrase there that are grammatically correct, but... you know...

vintagedave•4m ago
I thought those sentences were examples of excellent writing.

They don't sound AI to me - is that the implication, that it is? And the bit about 'Heroes' reminds me of his descriptions making fun of heroes in the stories about Cohen the Barbarian.

rogual•11m ago
I'm really surprised to see everyone praising the article. It's... it's slop, isn't it?

> And then there are the memories [...] that arrive uninvited, settle in, and start terrorising the other occupants by kicking over the chairs.

> Sir Terry Pratchett, who knew more about furniture than most, put it this way:

> "Rincewind tried to force the memory out of his mind, but it was rather enjoying itself there, terrorizing the other occupants and kicking over the furniture."

He "put it this way", in the exact same words you just used? Also, he knew more about furniture than most? What? Why?

> "Mathieu and I had read every Pratchett the school library would admit to owning, plus several it would not."

This has the cadence of a witty sentence unless you're paying attention and realize it makes no sense.

> “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”

> Nine words. A complete cosmology. Most physics departments would settle for that.

It's eight words, and the thing about physics departments makes no sense.

> The Author, refusing to let the Narrator off the hook.

Again, cute sentence, unless you're paying attention and you realize it doesn't mean anything.

simonw•35m ago
Like many Pratchett fans I have not read the last published Discworld book, The Shepherd's Crown, because then I will have read them all.

The author of this piece hasn't read the Witches books! I'm jealous, they still have so much great Pratchett to get through.

disgruntledphd2•8m ago
I sortof feel that the Witches might be the best, but then I think about the Watch, and I'm conflicted.
redfloatplane•35m ago
I really wish we had gotten Prachett on LLMs. I often wonder what he would have written about today's world.

A side note, if the author reads this: I really like your site and its design, but I find the font really difficult to read. (Edit: switching off `-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;` makes it significantly more legible for me (Safari on a 110dpi panel)

simonw•30m ago
"Feet of Clay", his book about golems written in 1996, was about AI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feet_of_Clay_(novel)
redfloatplane•27m ago
Funny, I would have said that was one of my favourites but it hadn't occurred to me at all that it's such a direct line to today's world! Thanks for the suggestion, I look forward to reading it again with that in mind!

(One of my favourite things about the Discworld books is that you can often read the same books completely differently. My partner and I often compare our thoughts on the various books and we often have disparate ideas of the concepts. They're so deep!)

tsumnia•10m ago
I say Feet of Clay and the Hogfather should be mandatory reads for anyone involved in AI. Feet for the obvious alignment of golem to AI, but while Hogfather is a Christmas story I think the wish granting machine, how it was able to produce anything, and how Death disabled it are very much aligned with how Gen AI can feel sometimes.

Last summer I tested Grok, Gemini, ChatGPT, and Claude with a simple question: "Do you believe in the Hogfather? This is a Yes or No question."

Yes its a text prediction model, but I wanted to see how and what KIND of text each LLM was trained on.

Grok and Gemini said No. ChatGPT said Yes. Claude said Yes, then broke the rules and also said:

"(In the spirit of Terry Pratchett's Discworld, where believing in small lies like the Hogfather helps us believe in the big ones like justice and mercy - and because the sun came up this morning, didn't it?)"

That's why I like Claude the most.

Planktonne•18m ago
In addition to Feet of Clay, Reaper Man is also about ideas related to AI.
redfloatplane•14m ago
Thanks, I'll add it to the list. I know I've read this one, but reading the plot summary on wikipedia, I remember very little of it. The death books are ones I mostly read 20+ years ago when I was a bit too young to grasp more than the basic layers. This thread has got me excited to reread the whole series :)

I recently finished the Aubrey-Maturin series after 13 months of through-reading thanks to a different HN thread. Quite a different series but certainly worth a read as well, especially books 3-10 or so.

vintagedave•33m ago
What a beautifully written article.

> What I miss, selfishly, is the next book. There were always going to be more.

> What I miss, less selfishly, is whatever Pratchett-shaped object is supposed to be reaching teenagers now, and isn’t.

I feel the first keenly. I have put off a re-read of Pratchett for several years now: I want to forget as much as possible, to have the pleasure of discovery again. But I have read them all so many times I know it will all be familiar.

I don't know what teenagers read today. I hope Pratchett is still there. Even as an adult, I found his writing encouraged a kind of kindness in me. He had a way of understanding human nature and, with zero preaching, making you consider how people different from you felt. I still remember when I encountered Cheery the first time and how beautifully Pratchett navigated the intricacies of gender. I was an adult who already believed in kindness, with friends who have their own experiences of gender and from whom I learned and who I tried to support, yet he still taught me something.

kuerbel•26m ago
I don't know about male teenagers but teen girls read copious amounts of a genre called romantasy.
Lalabadie•10m ago
Pratchett himself would be very ill-defined if you limited yourself to naming a genre.
N_Lens•32m ago
Just recently read 'Making Money' and it was a blast!
crawshaw•27m ago
My eight year old found a Terry Pratchett book of mine on the shelf the other day. He is a little too young to read them today but I realized I get to enjoy Pratchett all over again through him.
preinheimer•25m ago
I discovered Terry Pratchett's books my summer in New York. I was a university student, and I'd gotten a job at eDonkey doing technical support. I lived in a crappy apartment in Brooklyn (this was circa 2004 or so), and worked near Union Square.

Quite a few days after work, or just on a weekend adventure I'd go to a bookstore a few blocks south of work and grab another Discworld book, and a slice of pizza from my favourite pizza shop labelled "Rays". I'd read some in a park, and explore.

I didn't know a lot of people in the city, filling days with Terry Pratchett was a great joy.

yurishimo•24m ago
What a wonderful article! Despite being a huge fantasy fan, Pratchett has not yet come across my nightstand. I think that changes soon! I’m going to stop in my local bookstore and see if they have anything.

Regarding the authors point about current authors, I think Brandon Sanderson is really trying his best to live up to the mantle left behind by the great fantasy authors of the 20th century. Not all of his books that I’ve read have been bangers but considering he writes multiple novels a year across a wide variety of fantasy and sci-fi subgenres, that’s somewhat to be expected.

I know reading isn’t as popular now that screens have become so engrained into our daily lives, but there are absolutely kids out there getting stuck into books and it’s never been a better time to be a writer given the access of the internet and the ability for an author to promote their work and showcase their storytelling creativity through the medium of social media.

Aaargh20318•24m ago
I still haven’t read Raising Steam. One last time to experience a new Discworld novel, I’m saving it for a rainy day.
ipeev•22m ago
That font is too annoying to read. Probably fine for AIs thou.
mistic92•21m ago
I have read Discworld series 3 times and I'm thinking to read it all again. I wish there were movies based on Discworld but done right.
ohmahjong•20m ago
Man, I really miss Terry Pratchett too. He has been my favourite author for as long as I can remember (maybe Roald Dahl before that?). It helped having such a volume of work to go through at the time in my life where I was reading the most. I swear he has the most re-readable books too; so many small details and jokes that would be missed on a first pass.

GNU Terry Pratchett.

meander_water•20m ago
Lovely sentiment in the article, which was unfortunately AI generated.

Can we start tagging titles in HN with [AI-generated] or something?

I know some people have no problem with it, but it might help others (like me) to steer clear

password4321•9m ago
These days I'm more thankful that so much of HN is conversation here by interesting people based solely on the article title alone.
tejohnso•8m ago
How do you know it was AI generated?

Didn't see any reason to assume so, and I enjoyed it, plus it introduced me to this apparently great author. So, AI generated or not, I'm glad it was posted.

rogual•4m ago
Man I would love that tag. As an enjoyer of Pratchett's witty prose, seeing this is just sad.
johndhi•20m ago
Huge fan as a kid and enjoyed even the disc world computer game. But when I pick it up now I find the writing too ponderous to enjoy.
ChrisMarshallNY•20m ago
I have everything he wrote (which includes a number of non-Discworld books, like Johnny and the Bomb, and The Bromeliad Trilogy).

I didn't especially like the Science of Discworld books that much, but he didn't really write them.

One character that showed up in every one of his Discworld books -to a point- was Death.

After Sir Terry got his diagnosis, I noticed that Death stopped showing up in the books.

shmoil•12m ago
The font on this website is unreadable.

I read the first 20 or so books in the Discworld series, but I cannot read this website.

eeeeeie•11m ago
The really sad thing is that his later works reveal the decline in his mental faculties. They're not anywhere near as clever and incisive as his earlier books.
sbinnee•11m ago
Granny might not be for teenagers but she is the wise for adults
noir_lord•9m ago
In a very literal sense I wouldn’t have been the man I am if 9 year old me hadn’t stumbled onto a Discworld novel in the late 80’s.

Pratchett’s essential humanism shone (and sometimes shouted) through every page and satirically he was biting but never bitter.

He is without doubt and far away my favourite writer (apologies to Iain M Banks though I’m sure he’d have understood).

I’ve re-read Hogfather every Christmas since it came out.

I was an unsure 17 year old who was insure how life would turn out and I read it as someone with a family and clear sense of who I am, neither of which 17 year old me would have believed possible.

GNU Sir Terry Pratchett.

Hfuffzehn•3m ago
I miss him too.

Even though I had the experiences he discribes with Douglas Adams first before discovering Terry Pratchett.

dosinga•2m ago
What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don't think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass! Who's been pinching my beer?
foobarbecue•1m ago
I find this font surprisingly hard to read (on my phone). Is it just me?
kordite•34s ago
GNU Terry Pratchett - https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about

I Miss Terry Pratchett

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